Richard Ferris - Clarifying Richard Ferris

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Diana Raquel Sainz y Wilson Writes:

I am contacting you about this profile: Richard ‘of Curles’ Ferris

Maybe I am incorrect or totally confused, And if I am then OK, but I believe this Richard Ferris aka Farris is being confused with Richard James De'Ferrier or Ferrar and another Richard Ferris, Farris.

If you read the sources attached to this profile it speaks of the first Ferrar's found here. It mentions Nicholas the father who mard Mary Wodenoth and the children, including ONE mention of Richard born in 1596.

It states the only one that stayed was Nicholas' son William who was appointed commissioner of something by Gov. Yardley. They all had a part in the Virginia Co. some out of the West Indies.

I would not count on Family Search because they have sources for the 3 Richard's all over the place and I gave up on fixing that one.

I do not think this is the RICHARD FERRIS OF HENRICO, VIRGINIA
Richard “Of Curles” Farris I b. 1596 in London and married Sarah Hambleton b. 1616- d.5 Feb 1677 - This Richard died on 2 Dec 1637 in Henrico County, Virginia, USA

Richard Farrar aka De'Ferrier or Ferrar the son of Nicholas Ferrar and Mary Wodenoth Ferrar. was born about 1596 in London also, was an adult living independently in Hamburg, Germany in 1618,
He was born about 1596 in London also,
He was born into a strongly Angelican merchant family of London, England, about 1596. Richard was the youngest child and considered "the blacksheep" because of his spendthrift ways, he made a point of spelling of his last name "Farrar" instead of "Ferrar" and his wife and children did the same. In a book on the life of his brother, Nicholas Ferrar, Richard was described as "a Merchant of London" but in 1618 he was living in Hamburg, Germany (as recorded in a "Nicholas Ferrar, Two Lives" another book about his brother).

He married Elizabeth (maiden name unknown) and they had two children: Richard, who died unmarried, and Mary. There were most likely other daughters who also died young. -

They documentation of the Farrar family attached to this Richard Ferris whose link is above fits the Richard de Ferrar who married Elizabeth.

1. There is a Richard “Of Curles” Farris "spelled with an "A" I born in 1596 in London and married to Sarah who died 2 Dec 1637 (and

3. Richard James De'Ferrier or Ferrar born 1595 in London who was in Germany in 1618, and married an Elizabeth ?

2. Richard Ferris born 1610 died 1677 in Henrico County married to Ebbett ? Ferris (Ferris spelled with an "E")

Not that Find A Grave is a primary source and they may have it all mixed up too. These and the links I found.
1. Has Richard Farris married to Sarah Hambleton with notes stating he is the son of Nicholas and Mary Woodenoth Ferrar
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/237868010/richard-farris

2. Richard Ferris married to Ebbett
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/136206207/richard-ferris

Also on Geni - This Richard is married to Sarah and to Mary Beaple
He married Mary Beaple on 6 June 1625 in Barnstaple, Devon, England

I think the Richard Ferrar aka Farrar aka Farris who died in 1679 if that is even a correct date, died in England https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Farrar-84

I suppose my point is that nothing in the sources that I could read matches the dates or the Richard Ferris that the sources are attached to..

Notes in the “about”

Married twice. Second marriage in Virgina, America to Sara Handledon. They had three surviving children, Elizabeth born 1638, Richard born 1643 and William born 1640. The daughter Ekizabeth married Richard Ferris and had issue, four daughters and five sons.

Thank you Erica Howton and pardon the typos in my original message.

I have read additional sources and information, I do believe the three "Richards" are being mixed up completely.

There is no record of Richard the son of Nicholas and Mary born 1595/96 being in Virginia. The notes in Find A Grave are also obviously wrong.

There are records of a " Richard Ferris" and a "Sarah Hambleton" being in Virginia, but if he indeed died on the dates in Find A Grave then all the children attached to him on Geni cannot possibly be his.

I am not sure where Mary Beaple fits in, but she married a Richard Ferris in England and was attached in FamilySearch and on Geni.

The same sources were attached to three different Richard Ferris', Richard Ferrar, Richard Farrer, etc. but dates were different, places were different etc. It's a huge mess. Personally I would erase it all and start over but I am not in the mood for nasty grams from those who added all of the mixed up information.

Richard de Ferrer aka Farrer etc... had all three different Find A Graves attached to him and none of them matched the information written in any of the sources there or on Geni. Unless he duplicated himself, he cannot be all three.

I gave up over there and just wrote to all of the managers in hopes of finding out who the 'real" Richard Ferris, when did he die, and who are his children.
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https://www.genealogy.com/forum/general/topics/outlaws/14734/
Not a primary source but there is a mention of Richard Ferris and Elizabeth.
Those familiar with the Woodson family are familiar wite Robert Potatoe Hole Woodson and John "Tub" Woodson:

Sarah WOODSON was a brave pioneer woman. In the absence of her husband during the Indian Uprising of April 18, 1644, aided by Robert LIGON, she resisted an attack by the Indians, killing nine. She loaded the gun while LIGON fired, and hearing a noise up the chimney she threw the bed upon the coals, the stifling smoke bringing two Indians down, whom she dispatched. Her sons, Robert in the potato hole and John under the tub, were saved. For many years they were called "Potato Hole" and "Tub." Over the years this story has been passed on from one WOODSON generation to the next and as passed among the various families has varied a bit in details but not in Sarah's bravery in defending her children. John WOODSON, caught in the open on his way home from visiting a patient, was killed. The old Woodson muzzle loading matchlock musket rifle, originally eight feet long and later modified to seven feet six inches, was preserved and now owned by The Virginia Historical Society and is on permanent exhibit in the Virginia Museum in Richmond. Woodson Rifle photo shown with permission of Kathy Hudson.

Most researchers believe that the WOODSONS were living at Flowerdew Hundred at the time of the 1644 massacre; although, there is apparently no record of whether they were living at Flowerdew Hundred or whether they had already settled on the north side of the James at "Curles". Robert and John WOODSON, were among Tythables at Curles Plantation in 1679. Curles Plantation was on the North side of the James River near Flowerdew Hundred. This plantation was once owned by Robert WOODSON's father-in-law Richard FERRIS, father of his wife Elizabeth FERRIS.

After John WOODSON'S death, his Sarah married a DUNWELL and then a JOHNSON. On her death, she left a combination inventory and nuncupative will which was recorded January 17, 1660/1. Bequests included John WOODSON, Robert WOODSON and Deborah WOODSON, and Elizabeth DUNWELL. Henry Morton WOODSON in Historical Genealogy of the WOODSONS And Their Connections (published in Memphis 1915) states that 20 of the 25 charter members of The First Families of Virginia are descendants of John WOODSON. Dr. John Woodson is the progenitor of the WOODSON Family in America. Among his descendants are Dolley Todd Madison, wife of President James Madison, and the famous outlaw, Jesse Woodson James.

https://www.colonial-settlers-md-va.us/getperson.php?personID=I3805... Does not show parents for Elizabeth Woodson

Her father is called Richard Ferris of Curles.

“Historical genealogy of the Woodsons and their connections.” by Woodson, Henry Morton, 1845- 4n (1915) pp. 23-24.

https://archive.org/details/historicalgeneal01wood/page/39/mode/2up

No Richard Ferris in “ Virginia Immigrants and Adventurers, 1607-1635: A Biographical Dictionary”
By Martha W. McCartney. < GoogleBooks >

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Ferris-1339 Shows with no parents or children, and wife Sarah Hambleton.

However, narrative claims he’s the son of Nicholas Ferrar and Mary Wodenoth.

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Ferrar-113

Citations include

William G Stanard, ed, "Genealogy: The Farrar Family", The Virginia Magazine of History and Biography, Vol VII—No. 3. January 1900:320-1, Digital Image Internet Archive (https://archive.org/stream/virginiamagazine07bruc#page/320/mode/2up)

Wikipedia: Nicholas Ferrar http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicholas_Ferrar

Dorman, John Frederick. Adventurers of Purse and Person, Virginia, 1607-1624/5. 4th ed., Vol. 1 A-F (Genealogical Publishing Company, c 2004-2007). Online in .pdf file accessed 14 Nov 2019, pages 926- 930. http://www.reynoldspatova.org/histories/Adv_of_Purse_and_Person-160...

The Virginia Magazine of History and Biography. Vol. VII. Virginia Historical Society.; 1899. p. 320–. https://books.google.com/books?id=99ERAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA320

However, at https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Farrar-84

There are those of the Ferris surname that claim that Richard Ferrar was the father of an Elizabeth (Elizabeth O. Ferris). This is a spurious claim. Richard Ferrar was, for one thing, living in Hamburg in 1618 see Two Lives of Nicholas Ferrar, page 184 https://archive.org/stream/nicholasferrartw00mayouoft#page/184/mode...

Richard was considered the black sheep of the family, being a spendthrift.

Richard married an Elizabeth, last name unknown, had a son Richard who died unmarried and a daughter Mary. The Ferrar papers See genealogical chart III immediately following foreword http://www.microform.co.uk/guides/R97513.pdf Page VII of the above Column 5 names the originator of the document, usually the author but sometime.:. the person or institution in whose name the document has been drafted. Surnames, last names, are given as in the document, except. that variants of Ferrar have been 50 standardised, with one exception. Richard, the baby and black sheep cf the second generation, made a paint of spelling his name Farrar. His wife Elizabeth followed his example, and so did his son Richard for much: of the time. Farrar has thus been used always for the mother and father, and whenever appropriate for the son.

https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/collaborate/L84H-H7W

1677: THE EDWARD PLEASANT VALENTINE PAPERS, Vol. pg 1652: On October 1, 1677 Richard Ferris, is mentioned as being an orphan. NOTE: He would need to be under 21 to be considered an orphan.

LAND RECORDS: VA, Henrico Co., Abstracted Book, 1677-1705: Richard Ferris, Sr. gave land to his son Richard Ferris, Jr.

THE EDWARD PLEASANT VALENTINE PAPERS: PG 452 from the Henrico County Records, Oct. 1, 1692, Vol 1688-97, pg 342: "Richard Ferris did this day appear in open Court & Pr his Peticon pray that a Gift pr him made upon Richard Ferris, his eldest son might be entered on Record, The sd Gift by him acknowledge being a Pyed Cow known by the name of Py & marked with with a Swallow fork & a nick in ye Left year; with all her female increase".

Richard Ferris was a witness for Richard Ferris Jr., against Humphrey Smith. Mar. 1711 (Henrico Co. Orders 1710-1714 p. 126) !Richard Ferris, the elder, appointed the guardian to Richard Moor. Robert Childers signed as security. Mar 1711 (Henrico Co. Orders, 1710-1714)

This would mean there were at least 3 Richard Ferris'.

I am ok with NO PARENTS for Sarah Elizabeth Woodson

I descend from Tater Hole to the BEST of my knowledge
https://www.geni.com/path/Cynthia-Curtis-A183502-US7875087+is+relat...

The MICHAUX line is very well documented and close enough for autosomal.

https://www.geni.com/path/Cynthia-Curtis-A183502-US7875087+is+relat...

My goal is to confirm to the 10th great grands when possible and this demands documentation.
So I am pleased to see work to differentiate the Roberts and agree with the decision of the curator and the Geni users who have done the research.
We can always leave the links in the profile and revisit when/if there is a Y line to compare across the pond.
Sarah shows as born in Virginia but both parents England.
My two cents

(sorry--- I didn't realize I was posting the relationship path link twice)

I propose we configure as at https://reynoldspatova.org/getperson.php?personID=I6015&tree=reynolds1

Wife: Sarah Hambleton

Two children:

  1. Sarah (or Elizabeth) Ferris, married Robert Woodson
  2. Richard Ferris, wife unknown

The first person of this surname in Henrico County, Virginia, is that of Richard Ferris. Robert Hollom obtained a patent in Henrico Co., on 2 June 1636 for the transportation of twenty persons, one of whom was listed as Rich. Ferris1.This Richard Ferris1 must be the father of Elizabeth Ferris who married Robert Woodson, about 1656, on the north side of the James River.The close association with the Woodson family is evident for several generations.From the association of Robert Woodson with Richard Ferris2, we assume that Richard Ferris1 was the father of Richard Ferris2.

I can’t find evidence for wife Sarah Hambleton either. So disconnected, if records are found, can be re attached.

Not sure what I missed here, but he's still showing as Richard ‘of Curles’ Ferris is your 10th great grandfather ... so I'm good and trust you both!

PEACE!

Erica Howton
"Richard was considered the black sheep of the family, being a spendthrift." There was not much to buy in Jamestown. I think he had better success spending his money in Hamburg, Germany, or in London.

I did look at many of those sources yesterday, Everyone of them seems to contradict the other and what was on Geni. It was a brain-clogging day. I gave up on reading all of the opinions as they were not sources.

Thank you all for giving this "messed up" family some attention. I have an obsession with Jamestown and the Pamunkey Indians that should be on our Thanksgiving tables, not pilgrims, (that's another story), I do not have a direct lineage that I am aware of to the Woodson family in Flowerdew but my granddaughter does through her father's side.

I was going up the tree with her when I stumbled across this blockage.

Diana

Erica Howton and Cynthia Curtis, A183502, US7875087

Just more confusing food for thought...

Richard “Of Curles” Farris very well could have died in December 1637 per his Find A Grave profile.

His son was born (per Find A Grave) in 1635 and his daughter Elizabeth Ferris in May of 1638, which means his wife Sarah Hambleton would have been about 4 months pregnant when he died, she was a pregnant widow.

The dates for the children on Geni probably need to be looked at. (Yes, I will do the dirty deed)

Richard “Of Curles” Farris I
BIRTH - 1596 - London, City of London, Greater London, England
DEATH - 2 Dec 1637 (aged 40–41) - Henrico County, Virginia, USA
BURIAL - Henrico Parish Church Cemetery, Varina, Henrico County, Virginia, USA
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/237868010/richard-farris

Richard Farris II - (Married Anna Bland)
BIRTH 1635, Henrico County, Virginia, USA
DEATH 1725 (aged 89–90), Henrico County, Virginia, USA
BURIAL Henrico Parish Church Cemetery, Varina, Henrico County, Virginia, USA
MEMORIAL ID - 237867547 · View Source
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/237867547/richard-farris

and the daughter who married Robert Woodson
Elizabeth Ferris Woodson
BIRTH - 8 May 1638, Canterbury, Henrico County, Virginia, USA
DEATH - 1689 (aged 50–51) - Henrico County, Virginia, USA
BURIAL - Burial Details Unknown
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/76792710/elizabeth-woodson

Diana Raquel Sainz y Wilson that "Curles" always sticks/stuck out at me whenever I would look to do the data resolutions vs Henrico
To me it always seemed off but out of my area of expertise. These are very popular profiles and I cringe every time i see a duplicate/merge/merge request.
I am really excited to see this work you and Erica Howton are doing to get him correct and I an inclined to believe the death date with a child being born months later.
My thoughts
<3

My 11th and I love that the of Curles is now part of his name/identifier.
Perfect.

Cynthia Curtis, A183502, US7875087, they refer to it Curles Farm today ... Curles Plantation is not a good name for the first family to bring slaves to America.

The Woodson lived first at Flowerdew Plantation, located on the west/south side of the James River, about twenty (20) miles upriver from Jamestown. Probably named after Temperance FLOWERDIEU, the wife of Sir George Yeardley, Virginia's first Governor. She came to Virginia in January 1619, on the same ship with John and Sarah Woodson.

Curles Plantation was on the North side of the James River, near Flowerdew Hundred. Which was originally plantation owned by Robert Woodson's father-in-law Richard Ferris, father of his wife Elizabeth Ferris. Through their marriage it was absorbed into Flowerdew, but renamed Curles.

It was the largest and most productive "farm' of all of the James River 'farms'

they refer to it as Curles Farm today .... heading to get more coffee (wink)

Among the first, I think

That would be Rolfe...

I wish we could add a picture in Discussion. I know curators can.
There is a sign here I would love to share: https://www.usatoday.com/in-depth/news/nation/2019/08/21/tucker-fam...

I'll se if HE has a Geni profile to tag

:)

Cynthia Curtis, A183502, US7875087 Erica Howton Aaron Furtado Baldwin, UE9006698
The more and more I read, the more contradicting the information seems (Insert Scream here)

(And I also wish we could add attachments or images to inbox messages or discussions. It would make life so much easier.)

I decided to google the list of passengers.
I found Richard but he is Richard "FARIS" (one "R") that I suppose eventually became two.

https://www.worldcat.org/title/866590672

One line of descent from Richard Faris, Henrico County, Virginia and 167 allied lines : ancestry of John Lester Farris
Author:Lola Lewis Smead (Composer)

BOLD BELOW - HTML Coding obviously does not work.
******Summary: Richard Faris (b. ca. 1616) immigrated from England to Henrico County, Virginia, and married Elizabeth Hallam in about 1636. He died after 1656. Relatives and descendants lived throughout the United States******

Microform, English, 1979
Publisher: Filmed by the Genealogical Society of Utah, Salt Lake City, Utah, 1979
Physical Description:
1 microfilm reel ; 16 mm
OCLC Number / Unique Identifier:
866590672

*****Subjects:
*Faris
*Farris

Notes:
One microfilm print made form 1 microfilm reel made in 1974 of one typescript volume (227 leaves); the microfilm reel loaned by owners Mr. and Mrs. John L. Farris, Englewood, California
Includes "descent of John Lester Farris from seven sureities of Magna Carta."
Includes index

And on a lighter note... I was really disappointed when they stopped making the "Jamestown" series. I liked it!

And I love this site because what "New Colony" would be successful without a Drum or Drummer, or a Barber... Gotta look good and make some noise... hahaha
https://historicjamestowne.org/history/history-of-jamestown/first-s...

drum
Nicholas Skot

barber
Thomas Couper

Jamestown Genealogy Records in Alphabetical order by the first letter in Main Surname
(It has a list) and some information but you have to buy the rest.

This is going to take the entire colony of Jamestown to go through but these are the initial people. Some are listed a few times because of multiple marriages. BUT names are there... (Faris is not, but if he married Elizabeth Hallom per my finding in my message above, I believe her father is on this list)... Might be easier to go to the website. I attached the link below,

More importantly, if these people are marked as Jamestown Colonists as the Pilgrims are on Geni, then pulling them up in the future may be easier and any of these people that are connected to the wrong people can be fixed. THIS COMES STRAIGHT FROM THE JAMESTOWN GENEALOGY RECORDS

(I think Jamestown is more important than the Pilgrims anyway)

Genealogy Records

https://historicjamestowne.org/history/genealogy-records/
Addy, Mary
Given Name: Mary
Surnames: Addy; Branch
Spouse: Christopher Branch (separate record available)

Andrews, William
Given Name: William
Surname: Andrews (Andros)
Spouse: Mary Stringer (in this record)

Bagwell, Henry
Given Name: Henry
Surname: Bagwell

Barham, Anthony
Given Name: Anthony
Surname: Barham (Baram, Barram)
Spouse: Elizabeth Pierce (separate record available)
No confirmed surviving descendants

Basse, Nathaniel
Given Name: Nathaniel
Surname: Basse (Bass)

Bates, John
Given Name: John
Surname: Bates

Bayly, John
Given Name: John
Surname: Bayly (Bailey, Bayley, Bailie, Baile, Baily, Bailey, Bailye, Baylie)

Beheathland, Mary
Given Name: Mary
Surnames: Maiden name unknown; Beheathland (Behethlem); Flint (Flynt)
Spouses: Robert Beheathland (separate record available); Thomas Flint (separate record available)

Beheathland, Robert
Given Name: Robert
Surname: Beheathland (Behethlem)
Spouse: Mary Beheathland (separate record available)

Bennett, Joane
Given Name: Joane
Surnames: Maiden name unknown; Bennett (Bennet); Chapman
Spouses: Samuel Bennett (separate record available); Thomas Chapman (in this record)

Bennett, Samuel
Given Name: Samuel (Samwell, Samuell)
Surname: Bennett (Bennet)
Spouse: Joane Bennett (separate record available)

Bernard, William
Given Name: William
Surname: Bernard (Barnard)
Spouse: Lucy Higginson (in this record)

Bibby, William
Given Name: William
Surname: Bibby (Bibbie, Bribbie)

Boyce, Cheney
Given Name: Cheney (Chyna, Chene, Cheyney)
Surname: Boyce (Boise, Boyse, Boys, Boice)
Spouse: Joyce Boyce (in this record) *** It Rhymes***
No confirmed surviving descendants

Boyle, Hannah
Given Name: Hannah (Hanna)
Surnames: Boyle; Hill; Spilman (Spellman, Spelman, Spillman); Mountney
Spouses: Edward Hill (separate record available); Thomas Spilman (separate record available); Alexander Mountney (separate record available)

Boyse, Alice
Given Name: Alice (Allice)
Surnames: Maiden name unknown; Boyse (Boise, Boys, Boice, Boyce); Edlow (Edlo, Edloe, Edlowe)
Spouses: Luke Boyse (separate record available); Matthew Edlow (separate record available)

Boyse, Luke
Given Name: Luke
Surname: Boyse (Boise, Boys, Boice, Boyce)
Spouse: Alice Boyse (separate record available)
No confirmed surviving descendants

Branch, Christopher
Given Name: Christopher
Surname: Branch
Spouse: Mary Addy (separate record available)

Buck, Richard
Given Name: Richard
Surname: Buck (Bucke)

Burras, Anne
Given Name: Anne
Surnames: Burras (Buras); Laydon (Layden, Leydon, Layton)
Spouse: John Laydon (separate record available)
No confirmed surviving descendants

Bush, John
Given Name: John
Surname: Bush
No confirmed surviving descendants

Calthorpe, Christopher
Given Name: Christopher
Surname: Calthorpe (Calthorp, Calthrop, Calthrope, Colethrope, Galthorpe)
Spouse: Ann Calthorpe (maiden name unknown) (in this record)

Carsley, Henry
Given Name: Henry
Surname: Carsley (Careley, Caursley)
Spouse: Elizabeth Berriman (Berryman) (in this record)

Carter, William
Given Name: William
Surname: Carter

Chaplaine, Isaack
Given Name: Isaack (Isack, Isaac, Isaak)
Surname: Chaplaine (Chaplin, Chapline, Chaplain, Chaplyn)
No confirmed surviving descendants

Chew, John
Given Name: John
Surname: Chew
Spouse: Sarah Chew (maiden name unknown) (in this record)

Chisman, Edmund
Given Name: Edmund (Edmond, Edward)
Surname: Chisman (Cheesman, Cheaseman, Cheasman)
Spouse: Mary Lilly Chisman (maiden name unknown) (in this record)

Claiborne, William
Given Name: William
Surname: Claiborne (Claiborn, Clayborne, Cleyborn)
Spouse: Elizabeth Boteler (Butler) (in this record)

Clay, John
Given Name: John
Surname: Clay (Claye)
Spouse: Elizabeth Clay (maiden name unknown) (in this record)

Cobb, Joseph
Given Name: Joseph
Surname: Cobb
Spouse: Elizabeth Flinton (separate record available)

Cole, William
Given Name: William
Surname: Cole (Coale)
Spouse: Frances (Francis) (maiden name unknown) (in this record)

Coxe, William
Given Name: William
Surname: Coxe (Cox, Cocke)

Crew, Randall
Given Name: Randall
Surname: Crew
Spouse: Dorothy Beheathland (in this record)

Croshaw, Raleigh
Given Name: Raleigh (Rawleigh, Raughly)
Surname: Croshaw (Crashaw)
Probable but unproven descendants

Crump, Thomas
Given Name: Thomas
Surname: Crump (Crompe, Crumpe, Crampe, Crumfort)
Spouse: Elizabeth Buck (Bucke) (in this record)
No confirmed surviving descendants

Curtis, Thomas
Given Name: Thomas
Surname: Curtis

Davis, James
Given Name: James
Surname: Davis

Delke, Roger
Given Name: Roger
Surname: Delke (Delk, Dilke)
Spouse: Alice Delke (maiden name unknown) (in this record)

Edloe, Matthew
Given Name: Matthew
Surname: Edloe (Edlo, Edlow, Edlowe)
Spouse: Alice Boyse (separate record available)

Epes, Francis
Given Name: Francis
Surname: Epes (Epps, Eppes)

Epes, William
Given Name: William
Surname: Epes (Epps, Eppes)
Spouse: Margaret Epes (maiden name unknown) (in this record)
No confirmed surviving descendants

Farrar, William
Given Name: William
Surname: Farrar (Ferrar, Ferrer)
Spouse: Sisley Jordan (separate record available)

Fisher, John
Given Name: John
Surname: Fisher (Fissher)
Spouse: Elizabeth Fisher (maiden name unknown) (in this record)

Fleete, Henry
Given Name: Henry
Surname: Fleete (Fleet)
Spouse: Sarah Burden Fleete (maiden name unknown) (in this record)

Flint, Thomas
Given Name: Thomas
Surname: Flint (Flynt)
Spouse: Mary Beheathland (separate record available)
No confirmed surviving descendants

Flinton, Elizabeth
Given Name: Elizabeth (Eliazabeth)
Surnames: Flinton (Finton, Phlinton); Cobb
Spouse: Joseph Cobb (separate record available)

Flinton, Pharoah
Given Name: Pharaoh (Pharow, Farrar, Farrow)
Surname: Flinton (Finton, Phlinton)
No confirmed surviving descendants

Flood, John
Given Name: John
Surname: Flood (Fludd, Flud, Floyd)
Spouses: Margaret Finch Flood (maiden name unknown) (in this record); Fortune Jordan (in this record)

Flowerdew, Temperance
Given Name: Temperance
Surnames: Flowerdew; Barrow; Yeardley (Yardley); West (Weste)
Spouses: Richard Barrow (in this record); George Yeardley (separate record available); Francis West (separate record available)

Fuller, Elizabeth
Given Name: Elizabeth
Surnames: Fuller; Clements; Hamor (Hamer); Felgate (Fellgate)
Spouses: Ralph Hamor (separate record available); Tobias Felgate (in this record)

Gaither, John
Given Name: John
Surname: Gaither (Gater, Gatter, Gaethar)

Gaskins, Thomas
Given Name: Thomas
Surname: Gaskins (Gascoynes, Gaskon, Gaskoyne, Gascoigne, Gasqgoyne, Gaskine, Gasko)

Gookin, Daniel
Given Name: Daniel
Surname: Gookin (Gookins, Cookins, Goegen, Gookine)
Spouse: Mary Byrd (in this record)

Gosnold, Bartholomew
Given Name: Bartholomew
Surname: Gosnold
No confirmed surviving descendants

Granger, Nicholas
Given Name: Nicholas (Nicholai)
Surname: Granger (Graunger, Grange, Grainger, Grindger, Gringer)

Graves, Thomas
Given Name: Thomas
Surname: Graves (Grayes, Granes)

Gray, Thomas
Given Name: Thomas
Surname: Gray (Graye)

Grendon, Edward
Given Name: Edward
Surname: Grendon (Grindon, Grindall)

Gundry, John
Given Name: John
Surname: Gundry (Gundy, Grundy, Grindy, Gunnery, Gundrie)
Spouse: Mary (Marie) Gundry (maiden name unknown) (in this record)

Hallom, Robert
Given Name: Robert
Surname: Hallom (Halam, Hallam, Hollam, Hollom)
Spouse: Ann Price (separate record available)

Hamor, Ralph
Given Name: Ralph (Ralphe)
Surname: Hamor (Hamer)
Spouse: Elizabeth Fuller (separate record available)
No confirmed surviving descendants

Hampton, William
Given Name: William
Surname: Hampton
Spouse: Joane Hampton (maiden name unknown) (in this record)

Harmar, Charles
Given Name: Charles
Surname: Harmar (Harmor, Harmer, Harman, Farmer)
Spouse: Ann Southey (separate record available)
No confirmed surviving descendants

Harris, Thomas
Given Name: Thomas
Surname: Harris
Spouse: Adria Hoare (separate record available)

Harwood, Thomas
Given Name: Thomas
Surname: Harwood
Spouse: Ann Harwood (maiden name unknown) (in this record)

Hill, Edward
Given Name: Edward
Surname: Hill
Spouse: Hannah Boyle (separate record available)

Hoare, Adria
Given Name: Adria (Audry, Adry)
Surnames: Hoare; Harris
Spouse: Thomas Harris (separate record available)

Holt, Randall
Given Name: Randall
Surname: Holt (Howlett)
Spouse: Mary Bayly (in this record and also in the record for her father, John Bayly)

Hooe, Rice
Given Name: Rice (Ryce)
Surname: Hooe (Howe, Hoe)

Hopkins, Stephen
Given Name: Stephen
Surname: Hopkins
Spouses: Mary Kent (in this record); Elizabeth Fisher (in this record)

Johnson, John
Given Name: John
Surname: Johnson

Jordan, Samuel
Given Name: Samuel
Surname: Jordan (Jerdan)
Spouse: Sisley Jordan (separate record available)
No confirmed surviving descendants

***Jordan, Sisley*************************
Given Name: Sisley (Cecily, Cecely)
Surnames: Maiden name unknown; Bailey (Bayley, Baley); Jordan (Jerdan); Farrar (Ferrar, Ferrer)
Spouses: Samuel Jordan (separate record available); William Farrar (separate record available)

Jordan, Thomas
Given Name: Thomas
Surname: Jordan (Jorden, Jerdan)

Keith, George
Given Name: George
Surname: Keith (Keth)
Spouse: Susan Keith (maiden name unknown) (in this record)
No confirmed surviving descendants

Kent, Humfrey
Given Name: Humfrey (Humphrey)
Surname: Kent
Spouse: Joane Kent (maiden name unknown) (in this record)

Kingsmill, Richard
Given Name: Richard
Surname: Kingsmill
Spouse: Jane Kingsmill (maiden name unknown) (in this record)
No confirmed surviving descendants

Knott, James
Given Name: James
Surname: Knott

Laydon, John
Given Name: John
Surname: Laydon (Layden, Leydon, Layton)
Spouse: Anne Burras (separate record available)
No confirmed surviving descendants

Lloyd, Edward
Given Name: Edward
Surname: Lloyd (Loyd)

Lupo, Albiano
Given Name: Albiano (Aliano, Albono)
Surname: Lupo
No confirmed surviving descendants

Lupo, Philip
Given Name: Philip
Surname: Lupo

Macock, Samuel
Given Name: Samuel
Surname: Macock (Macocke, Maycocke)

Martiau, Nicholas
Given Name: Nicholas
Surname: Martiau (Marteu, Martue, Marteaw, Marteau)

Mason, Francis
Given Name: Francis
Surname: Mason

Mathews, Samuel
Given Name: Samuel
Surname: Mathews (Matthews, Matthewes)
Spouses: Frances Greville (in this record); Miss Hinton (first name unknown) (in this record)

Menefie, George
Given Name: George
Surname: Menefie
Spouse: Isabel Smyth (separate record available)

Montague, Peter
Given Name: Peter
Surname: Montague

Moone, John
Given Name: John
Surname: Moone (Moon)

Moore, John
Given Name: John
Surname: Moore (More)

Mountney, Alexander
Given Name: Alexander
Surname: Mountney
Spouse: Hannah Boyle (separate record available)

Osborne, Thomas
Given Name: Thomas
Surname: Osborne (Osbourn)

Pace, Richard
Given Name: Richard
Surname: Pace
Spouse: Isabel Smyth (separate record available)

Parramore, John
Given Name: John
Surname: Parramore
Spouse: Elizabeth Drake (in this record)

Pead, John
Given Name: John
Surname: Pead (Peede)
Spouse: Mary Pead (maiden name unknown) (in this record)

Peirce, Joane
Given Name: Joane (Joan, Jane)
Surnames: Maiden name unknown; Peirce (Pierce, Pearse, Perse, Perce, Peerce)
Spouse: William Peirce (separate record available)
No confirmed surviving descendants

Peirce, William
Given Name: William
Surname: Peirce (Pierce, Pearse, Perse, Perce, Peerce)
Spouse: Joane Peirce (separate record available)
No confirmed surviving descendants

Peirsey, Abraham
Given Name: Abraham
Surname: Peirsey
Spouses: Elizabeth Draper (in this record); Frances Grenville (in this record)

Perry, William
Given Name: William
Surname: Perry
Spouse: Isabell Smyth (separate record available)

Pierce, Alice
Given Name: Alice
Surnames: Maiden name unknown; Pierce; Bennett
Spouse: Thomas Bennett (in this record)

Pierce, Elizabeth
Given Name: Elizabeth
Surnames: Pierce; Barham; Jackson
Spouses:Anthony Barham (separate record available); Richard Jackson (in this record)

Pooley, Greville
Given Name: Greville (Griville)
Surname: Pooley
No confirmed surviving descendants

Pott, John
Given Name: John
Surname: Pott
No confirmed surviving descendants

Price, Ann
Given Name: Ann
Surnames: Maiden name unknown; Price; Hallom (Halam, Hallam, Hollam, Hollom); Llewellyn (Lewellin)
Spouses: John Price (separate record available); Robert Hallom (separate record available); Daniel Llewellyn (in this record)

Price, John
Given Name: John
Surname: Price
Spouse: Ann Price (separate record available)

Purefoy, Thomas
Given Name: Thomas
Surname: Purefoy (Purfoy, Purfray, Purifoy, Purifie)
Spouse: Lucy Purefoy (maiden name unknown) (in this record)

Reynolds, Christopher
Given Name: Christopher
Surname: Reynolds (Reinolds)

Robins, John
Given Name: John
Surname: Robins (Robinson)

Rolfe, John
Given Name: John
Surname: Rolfe
Spouses: Rebecca Rolfe (Pocahontas) (in this record); Joane Peirce (in this record and in the records of her parents, William and Joane Peirce)

Rookins, William
Given Name: William
Surname: Rookins (Rookings)
Spouse: Jane Baxter (in this record)

Royall, Joseph
Given Name: Joseph
Surname: Royall
Spouse: Katherine Banks (in this record)

Savage, Thomas
Given Name: Thomas
Surname: Savage (Savadge)
Spouse: Ann (Hannah) Savage (maiden name unknown) (in this record)

Sharp, Elizabeth
Given Name: Elizabeth
Surnames: Maiden name unknown; Sharp (Sharpe); Packer (Parker, Paker); Baugh
Spouses: William Sharp (separate record available); Thomas Packer (in this record); William Baugh (in this record)

Sharp, William
Given Name: William
Surname: Sharp (Sharpe)
Spouse: Elizabeth Sharp (separate record available)

Sheppey, Thomas
Given Name: Thomas
Surname: Sheppey (Sheepey, Sheppy)

Slaughter, John
Given Name: John
Surname: Slaughter (Slater)
Spouse: Anne Slaughter (maiden name unknown) (in this record)
Probable but unproven descendants

Smith, Arthur
Given Name: Arthur
Surname: Smith (Smyth)

Smith, Richard
Given Name: Richard
Surname: Smith

Smith, Roger
Given Name: Roger
Surname: Smith
Spouse: Joane Peirce (in this record and in the records of her parents, William and Joane Peirce)
No confirmed surviving descendants

Smyth, Isabell
Given Name: Isabell (Isabella, Izabella)
Surnames: Smyth; Pace; Perry; Menefie
Spouses: Richard Pace (separate record available); William Perry (separate record available); George Menefie (separate record available)

Southey, Ann
Given Name: Ann (Anna)
Surnames: Southey (Soothey, Sothey); Harmar (Harmor, Harmer, Harman; Farmer); Littleton
Spouses: Charles Harmar (separate record available); Nathaniel Littleton (in this record)

Spencer, William
Given Name: William
Surname: Spencer (Spence)

Spilman, Thomas
Given Name: Thomas
Surname: Spilman (Spellman, Spillman, Spelman)
Spouse: Hannah Boyle (separate record available)
No confirmed surviving descendants

Stephens, Richard
Given Name: Richard
Surname: Stephens
Spouse: Elizabeth Peirsey (in this record and in the record of her father, Abraham Peirsey)

Strachey, William
Given Name: William
Surname: Strachey
Spouse: Frances Forster (in this record)

Tatum, Nathaniel
Given Name: Nathaniel (Nathanell, Nathaniell)
Surname: Tatum (Tattam, Tatam)

Taylor, Thomas
Given Name: Thomas
Surname: Taylor

Thorowgood, Adam
Given Name: Adam
Surname: Thorowgood (Thoroughgood, Thorogood, Thorugood)
Spouse: Sarah Offley (in this record)

Tooke, James
Given Name: James
Surname: Tooke (Took, Tuke)

Townshend, Richard
Given Name: Richard
Surname: Townshend (Townsend)
Spouse: Frances Baldwin (in this record)

Trussell, John
Given Name: John
Surname: Trussell

Utie, Ann
Given Name: Ann Surnames: Maiden name unknown; Utie (Uty, Utye, Utey); Bennett Spouses: John Utie (separate record available); Richard Bennett (in this record)

Utie, John
Given Name: John
Surname: Utie (Uty, Utye, Utey)
Spouse: Ann Utie (separate record available)

Waters, Edward
Given Name: Edward
Surname: Waters (Watters, Walters)
Spouse: Grace Waters (separate record available)

Waters, Grace
Given Name: Grace
Surnames: Maiden name unknown; Waters (Watters, Walters) ; Robins
Spouses: Edward Waters (separate record available); Obedience Robins (in this record)

West, Francis
Given Name: Francis
Surname: West (Weste)
Spouse: Temperance Flowerdew (separate record available)
No confirmed surviving descendants

West, John
Given Name: John
Surname: West (Weste)

West, Nathaniel
Given Name: Nathaniel
Surname: West (Weste)
Spouse: Frances Grenville (in this record)

West, Thomas
Given Name: Thomas
Surname: West (Weste)
Spouse: Cecily (Cecilia) Shirley (in this record)

Whiting, James
Given Name: James
Surname: Whiting (Whitinge)
No confirmed surviving descendants

Wilkins, John
Given Name: John
Surname: Wilkins (Wilkens, Wilkines)
Spouses: Bridget Croft (in this record); Anne Wilkins (maiden name unknown) (in this record)

Williams, Henry
Given Name: Henry (Henery)
Surname: Williams
Spouses: Susan Andrews (possible maiden name) (in this record); Margery (maiden name unknown) (in this record)

Willoughby, Thomas
Given Name: Thomas
Surname: Willoughby (Willoby, Willoughbie)

Wood, Abraham
Given Name: Abraham
Surname: Wood
No confirmed surviving descendants

Woodliffe, John
Given Name: John
Surname: Woodliffe (Woodlief, Woodlase)

Woodson, John
Given Name: John
Surname: Woodson
Spouse: Sarah Woodson (maiden name unknown) (in this record)

Woodward, Christopher
Given Name: Christopher
Surname: Woodward

Wroughton, Ezekiah
Given Name: Ezekiah
Surname: Wroughton (Raughton)
Spouse: Margaret Wroughton (maiden name unknown) (in this record)

Wyatt, Haute
Given Name: Haute (Haut, Hant, Hante, Hautt, Hawt)
Surname: Wyatt (Wiatt, Wyat)
Spouses: Barbara Mitford (in this record); Ann Cox (in this record)

Yeardley, George
Given Name: George
Surname: Yeardley (Yardley)
Spouse: Temperance Flowerdew (separate record available)

Richard Ferris arrived by 1636 when his headright patent was claimed but he could have arrived much earlier. There is no record of his death. His son Richard2 has a Patent in 1685, so he must have been born no later than 1664; Brent Holcomb (below) suggests Richard2 died between 1725 and 1731, in his 80s. If Elizabeth Ferris married 1656 for the first time, consider she was born no later than 1640, and most likely at around age 18 (so born 1638): they married young in early Virginia.

Some existing geni projects:

https://www.geni.com/projects/Colonizing-Virginia-Curles-of-the-James-River/11217

https://www.geni.com/projects/Jamestown-Virginia-1624-Census/8848

https://www.geni.com/projects/Jamestown-Virginia-1607-1699/11105

https://www.geni.com/projects/Early-Virginia-Immigrants-1623-1666/8847

I am very skeptical of the unsourced FindAGraves based on what?

Go back through the land extracts on Richard Ferris l, ll, lll to see who was living when.

The Holcomb book (in copyright, try library loan, perhaps) looks the best we know. He worked with Dorman, who is considered an expert on Southern genealogy.

Greer and related families : Sanders, Sims, Glenn, Christmas, Smith, Ferris and Carver of the Carolinas and Virginia.” Holcomb, Brent H. (Brent Howard), 1950- .

These are google book snippet views. More complete text was added to profiles.

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Also see for Elizabeth Ferris Woodson:

Parker, Talcott, Randolph and Allied Families: Our Tangled Roots and Branches, Volume 2

FOUND INSIDE – PAGE 783

WOODSON [ # 508 ] b . 1634 , Prince George Co. , VA d . after 1707 , VA m . ca 1656 , ELIZABETH FERRIS Dr. John Woodson and his family were Quakers and they occupied land which was later part of the “ Curles ” plantation of Richard ...

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Richard Ferris was called “mister” suggesting his social class. More can be suggested by what’s known on the early Woodsons.

From Genealogies of Virginia Families: From the William and Mary ...books.google.com › books
William and Mary College Quarterly Staff · 1982

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I wonder If Library of Virginia has that 1687 land patent where Mr. Richard Ferris is mentioned.

I think we have to go with “wife & parents unknown” for Richard1 Ferris, and “wife unknown” for Richard2.

Comments at FamilySearch:

https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/collaborate/9VT7-3PQ

”This Richard Ferris has no proved wife - there is no record that names her. Neither are his parents known or proved by any actual record.”


"Find A Grave Index," database, FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVPQ-T4M2 : 7 July 2020), Richard Ferris, ; Burial, , ; citing record ID , Find a Grave, http://www.findagrave.com.

”Richard Ferris, "Find A Grave Index" NO PROOF THIS IS THE SAME PERSON! Dates not proved!”



Richard Ferris in the Virginia Immigrants, 1623

https://www.ancestry.com/sharing/2613030?mark=2023612021d0ccd9cf094...

Detail Source
Name: Richard Ferris
Arrived By: 1636
Sponsors: Robert Hollom
Residence Place: Henrico, Virginia
Reference: Early Virginia Immigrants; 1623–1666 F

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