John Fowler, Sr. - This is a mess

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Consistency Check:Mary Jane Fowler (Rollins) is under 12 years old for the birth of her child John Fowler.More than 22 year age difference between Elizabeth Hawkins (Dorsey) and her husband John Fowler, Sr..John Fowler, Sr. is under 12 years old for the birth of his child Sarah Elizabeth Frazier (Johnson).Hannah Fowler (Sutton) is under 12 years old for the birth of her child Sarah Elizabeth Frazier (Johnson).Hanna Jane Grace (Fowler) born after the death of her mother Hannah Fowler (Sutton).Elizabeth Fowler (Rackley) is under 12 years old for the birth of her child Samuel Fowler.Elizabeth Fowler (Rackley) is over 55 years old for the birth of her child Leonard Fowler.Elizabeth Fowler (Rackley) is under 12 years old for the birth of her child James Fowler.Elizabeth Fowler (Rackley) is over 55 years old for the birth of her child Lewis Fowler +.

John Fowler, Sr. MP
Gender: Male
Birth: 1747
Taylor's Bridge, Duplin, North Carolina, United States
Death: 1845 (97-98)
Troy, Pike, Alabama, United States
Place of Burial: Pike, Alabama, United States
Immediate Family:
Son of Daniel W. Fowler, Sr. and Mary Jane Fowler (Rollins)
Husband of Elizabeth Hawkins (Dorsey); Hannah Fowler (Sutton) and Elizabeth Fowler (Rackley)
Father of James Monroe Fowler; Martha P Fowler; Sarah Elizabeth Frazier (Johnson); Hanna Jane Grace (Fowler); Samuel Fowler and 30 others
Brother of John Fowler; Daniel Fowler, II; William P. Fowler; Richard Gildart Fowler; Elizabeth Margaret Spivey (Fowler) and 7 others

About:

* [http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=88105417 findagrave]
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Revolutionary War (Sampson Co)

Columbus Co.

Pike Co. AL

• He served in the military Revolutionary War in 1776 in North Carolina. 7 "...was a Revolutionary Patriot at the Battle of Moore's Creek in 1776. there are extensive records on his war service at The National Archives in Washington, D. C."

• Military: Revolutionary War Pension, 1841, Alabama. 8 Fowler, John, sen, age 99, resided in Pike County, June 1, 1840. Census of Pensioners 1841, p. 149

• He served in the military Revolutionary War in North Carolina. 9 Private, Minuteman, NC Militia, 1st NC Continental Line, Pension # S 16809

• He served in the military Revolutionary War in North Carolina. 3 Private, NC Line, served under Captains Clinton, Moore, and Vann.

• He served in the military Revolutionary War in , , North Carolina, USA. 10 quote - b. 1747, Duplin (later Sampson) County, North Carolina; John Fowler, while a resident of Sampson County, enlisted under Capt. Richard Clinton and Col. James Kenan and was in the battle at Moores Creek Bridge. Next, he served under Capt. Alfred Moore and Col. Moore in the First North Carolina Regiment. He also served at sometime under Capt. William Vann. Fowler was allowed pension on his application executed 12 November 1832 while residing in Columbus County, North Carolina. In 1837 he moved to Pike County, Alabama, in order to be near his children.

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http://revwarapps.org/s16809.pdf
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https://archive.org/details/historyoffowlerf00fowl
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=== GEDCOM Source ===
@R1653351959@ U.S. and International Marriage Records, 1560-1900 Yates Publishing Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2004.Original data - This unique collection of records was extracted from a variety of sources including family group sheets and electronic databases. Originally, the information was derived Source number: 1251.026; Source type: Family group sheet, FGSE, listed as parents; Number of Pages: 1; Submitter Code: . http://trees.ancestry.com/rd?f=sse&db=worldmarr_ga&h=428886... Birth date: 1747 Birth place: NC Marriage date: 1776 Marriage place: 1,7836::428886
=== GEDCOM Source ===
@R1653351959@ U.S. and International Marriage Records, 1560-1900 Yates Publishing Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2004.Original data - This unique collection of records was extracted from a variety of sources including family group sheets and electronic databases. Originally, the information was derived Source number: 1251.026; Source type: Family group sheet, FGSE, listed as parents; Number of Pages: 1; Submitter Code: . http://trees.ancestry.com/rd?f=sse&db=worldmarr_ga&h=428886... Birth date: 1747 Birth place: NC Marriage date: 1776 Marriage place: 1,7836::428886
=== GEDCOM Source ===
@R1653351959@ Ancestry Family Trees Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com. Original data: Family Tree files submitted by Ancestry members. This information comes from 1 or more individual Ancestry Family Tree files. This source citation points you to a current version of those files. Note: The owners of these tree files may have removed or changed information since this source citation was created. Ancestry Family Trees http://trees.ancestry.com/pt/AMTCitationRedir.aspx?tid=40981458&amp...

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=== GEDCOM Note ===
[[Category:Duplin County, North Carolina]] [[Category:Sampson County, North Carolina, Early Settlers]] [[Category:Lancaster County, South Carolina]] [[Category:Columbus County, North Carolina]] [[Category:Pike County, Alabama]]
{{US Southern Colonist|North Carolina|needs=Biography}}

== Biography == Richard Fowler, in a July 21, 2014 email, said the John Fowler who married Elizabeth Rackley didn't marry [[Sutton-631|Hannah Sutton]]. Hannah was married to John's cousin, also a John Fowler. Note this information from Richard Fowler:
"About thirty-five years ago when I submitted the DAR application for my sister...I forwarded absolute proof that the Revolutionary Patriot John Fowler, had never been married to Hannah Sutton. "I then received a communication from DAR that my research was correct, that those descendants of Hannah Sutton Fowler, and the other John Fowler, who were in DAR would not be removed, but that the future applications would be denied. According to Richard Fowler, John and Elizabeth (Rackley) Fowler's children included: :John Fowler, Jr. :Sarah Margaret who md. Thomas Cribb (1781-1858) :Annie who married William Sims :Elizabeth (1790-1857) who md. Isaac Simmons (1786-1864) :Lucretia who md. a Stephens :Richard who md. Sallie Stephens :Charlotte who md. Eli Nobles (b. ca 1794) :Amelia Ann (1802-ca1870) Stephen Wright (1800-1852)

According to Revolutionary War records, John Fowler was born in 1747in Duplin (later Sampson) County, North Carolina. Different records show different ages. He enlisted as a private in the Revolutionary War in Sampson Co., North Carolina under Capt. Richard Clinton and Col. James Kenan. John was in the battle at Moores Creek Bridge in 1776. He later served under Capt. Alfred Moore and Col. Moore in the First North Carolina Regiment. He also served under Capt. William Vann. August 13, 1832: John Fowler was in court on behalf of a fellow Revolutionary War soldier. He gave his age as eighty five. [Duplin County, NC - Revolutionary War Military Services, via USGW Archives]

:FOWLER, Daniel, Private, 1st NC Continental Line:FOWLER, John, Private, Minuteman, NC Militia, 1st NC Continental Line<ref>United States Archives, Pension S. 16809</ref> <ref>"Revolutionary War Records of Duplin-Sampson Counties."</ref> After the Revolutionary War was over, John and Elizabeth moved to Lancaster County, South Carolina with Elizabeth's brothers, Elijah and Shadrack Rackley.<ref>Summary of an article compiled by Richard Fowler</ref> About 1804 John sold his property in South Carolina and began purchasing property in what is now Columbus County, NC.<ref>Summary of an article compiled by Richard Fowler</ref> John's pension application was executed November 12, 1832 while residing in Columbus County, North Carolina. <ref>Minutes of the 1832 fall term of Columbus County, NC, Superior Court</ref> By the fall of 1837, all of the children of John Fowler had moved to Pike County, Alabama with the exception of Amelia Ann who remained with Stephen on the Wright homeplace near Iron Hill.<ref>Summary of an article compiled by Richard Fowler</ref> In 1837 he moved to Pike County, Alabama in order to be near his children. Revolutionary War Pension, 1841, Alabama. Fowler, John, sen, age 99, resided in Pike County, June 1, 1840. Census of Pensioners 1841, p. 149 Some records say he died in 1845, others 1846, but according to his pension records he was 99 in 1841 so more documentation is needed. See his extensive service records at The National Archives in Washington, D. C.

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1790 Sampson County, NC Census

1800 Lancaster District, SC Census

1810 Columbus County, NC Census

1820 Columbus County, NC Census

1830 Columbus County, NC Census

1840 Pike County, AL Census

: Burial: :: Date: 1844 :: Place: Near Troy, Al.

: Military Service: :: Place: American Revolutionary War.-3 tours

: Occupation: :: Place: Farmer

=== Notes ===
Jeremiah (b. 1761) and Micajah Rackley are also listed in the Duplin (Sampson) Co., NC Revolutionary War Service Records. Related to John Fowler's wife, Elizabeth Rackley? Further research is needed to make sure all these John Fowlers are the same. [http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/a/b/b/Patsy-J-Abbey/WEBS... Daniel Fowler] [http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/FOWLER/1999-12/094443... Daniel Fowler Family Tree]

=== Notes ===
Review The National Archives in Washington, D. C. for Revolutionary War records for John W. Fowler. ''This biography was auto-generated by a GEDCOM import.<ref>Fowler-5084 was created by [[Cribbs-133 | Diane Cribbs]] through the import of John Cribb A.ged on Sep 5, 2015. ''This comment and citation can be deleted after the biography has been edited and primary sources are included.''</ref> It's a rough draft and needs to be edited.''

=== Name ===: Name: John /Fowler/<ref>Source: [[#S18]] Page: Year: 1800; Census Place: Fayetteville, Sampson, North Carolina; Roll: ; Page: ; Image: . Data: Text: Residence date: 1800 CONT Residence place: Fayetteville, Sampson, North Carolina Object: @M963@</ref><ref>Source: [[#S19]] Page: 1820 U S Census; Census Place: Columbus, North Carolina; Page: 57; NARA Roll: M33_84; Image: 60 Object: @M964@</ref><ref>Source: [[#S12]] Page: Year: 1830; Census Place: , Pike, Alabama; Roll: ; Page: . Data: Text: Residence date: 1830 CONT Residence place: Pike, Alabama, United States Object: @M965@</ref><ref>Source: [[#S59]] Page: Ancestry Family Trees</ref><ref>Source: [[#S85]] Data: Text: Residence date: CONT Residence place: Pike County, Alabama</ref><ref>Source: [[#S23]] Page: Source number: 1251.026; Source type: Family group sheet, FGSE, listed as parents; Number of Pages: 1; Submitter Code: . Data: Text: Birth date: 1747 CONT Birth place: NC CONT Marriage date: 1776 CONT Marriage place:</ref><ref>Source: [[#S88]] Data: Text: Residence date: 1833 CONT Residence place: Alabama Object: @M966@</ref><ref>Source: [[#S38]] Page: Year: 1790; Census Place: , Sampson, North Carolina; Roll: ; Image: Data: Text: Residence date: 1790 CONT Residence place: Sampson, North Carolina, United States Object: @M967@</ref><ref>Source: [[#S86]] Data: Text: Residence date: 1840 CONT Residence place: Pike County, AL</ref><ref>Source: [[#S15]] Page: Year: 1810; Census Place: Columbus, North Carolina; Roll: 42; Page: 10; Image: 0337915; Family History Library Film: 00044 Object: @M968@</ref><ref>Source: [[#S11]] Page: Year: 1840; Census Place: , Pike, Alabama; Roll: ; Page: . Data: Text: Residence date: 1840 CONT Residence place: Pike, Alabama, United States Object: @M969@</ref><ref>Source: [[#S87]] Object: @M970@</ref>

=== Birth ===
: Birth: :: Date: 1747:: Place: Taylors Bridge, Duplin, North Carolina, USA<ref>Source: [[#S23]] Page: Source number: 1251.026; Source type: Family group sheet, FGSE, listed as parents; Number of Pages: 1; Submitter Code: . Data: Text: Birth date: 1747 CONT Birth place: NC CONT Marriage date: 1776 CONT Marriage place:</ref>

=== Residence ===
: Residence: :: Date: 1810:: Place: Columbus, North Carolina, United States<ref>Source: [[#S15]] Page: Year: 1810; Census Place: Columbus, North Carolina; Roll: 42; Page: 10; Image: 0337915; Family History Library Film: 00044 Object: @M968@</ref> : Residence: :: Place: Pike County, Alabama<ref>Source: [[#S85]] Data: Text: Residence date: CONT Residence place: Pike County, Alabama</ref> : Residence: :: Date: 1840:: Place: Pike County, AL<ref>Source: [[#S86]] Data: Text: Residence date: 1840 CONT Residence place: Pike County, AL</ref> : Residence: :: Date: 1800:: Place: Fayetteville, Sampson, North Carolina<ref>Source: [[#S18]] Page: Year: 1800; Census Place: Fayetteville, Sampson, North Carolina; Roll: ; Page: ; Image: . Data: Text: Residence date: 1800 CONT Residence place: Fayetteville, Sampson, North Carolina Object: @M963@</ref> : Residence: :: Date: 1820:: Place: Columbus, North Carolina, United States<ref>Source: [[#S19]] Page: 1820 U S Census; Census Place: Columbus, North Carolina; Page: 57; NARA Roll: M33_84; Image: 60 Object: @M964@</ref> : Residence: :: Date: 1830:: Place: Pike, Alabama, United States<ref>Source: [[#S12]] Page: Year: 1830; Census Place: , Pike, Alabama; Roll: ; Page: . Data: Text: Residence date: 1830 CONT Residence place: Pike, Alabama, United States Object: @M965@</ref> : Residence: :: Date: 1833:: Place: Alabama<ref>Source: [[#S88]] Data: Text: Residence date: 1833 CONT Residence place: Alabama Object: @M966@</ref> : Residence: :: Date: 1790:: Place: Sampson, North Carolina, United States<ref>Source: [[#S38]] Page: Year: 1790; Census Place: , Sampson, North Carolina; Roll: ; Image: Data: Text: Residence date: 1790 CONT Residence place: Sampson, North Carolina, United States Object: @M967@</ref> : Residence: :: Date: 1840:: Place: Pike, Alabama, United States<ref>Source: [[#S11]] Page: Year: 1840; Census Place: , Pike, Alabama; Roll: ; Page: . Data: Text: Residence date: 1840 CONT Residence place: Pike, Alabama, United States Object: @M969@</ref>

=== Object ===
: Object: @M33@ : Object: @M40@ : Object: @M150@

=== Marriage ===

: Husband: [[Fowler-5084|John Fowler]]
: Wife: [[Rackley-185|Elizabeth Rackley]] : Child: @I1912@ :: Relationship to Father: Natural :: Relationship to Mother: Natural : Marriage: :: Date: 1776:: Place: , Sampson, North Carolina, USA<ref>Source: [[#S23]] Page: Source number: 1251.026; Source type: Family group sheet, FGSE, listed as parents; Number of Pages: 1; Submitter Code: . Data: Text: Birth date: 1747 CONT Birth place: NC CONT Marriage date: 1776 CONT Marriage place:</ref><ref>Source: [[#S23]] Page: Source number: 1251.026; Source type: Family group sheet, FGSE, listed as parents; Number of Pages: 1</ref>

: Husband: @I2245@ : Wife: [[Rollins-1012|Mary Jane Rollins]] : Child: [[Fowler-5084|John Fowler]] :: Relationship to Father: Natural :: Relationship to Mother: Natural : Marriage: :: Date: 1745:: Place: Duplin, Sampson, North Carolina, United States<ref>Source: [[#S23]] Page: Source number: 1251.034; Source type: Family group sheet, FGSE, listed as parents; Number of Pages: 1; Submitter Code: . Data: Text: Birth date: 1714 CONT Birth place: VA CONT Marriage date: 1741 CONT Marriage place: NC</ref>

== Sources ==
<references />

* Census records listed within the biography* [http://dallen1989.tripod.com/Rev-Soldiers.html "Revolutionary War Records of Duplin-Sampson Counties,"] by Virginia & Oscar Bizzell, c1997, via Jerome Tew
* Duplin Co., NC Rev. War Service Records
* Sampson Co., NC Rev. War Service Records* [http://books.google.com/books?id=FLcNAQAAMAAJ&pg=PA306&... The State Records of North Carolina], Vol. 20, p. 306* [http://books.google.com/books?id=GBIRAQAAMAAJ&q=Fowler,+Joh... Roster of the patriots in the Battle of Moores Creek Bridge], by Bobby Gilmer Moss - 1992 - Page 78

== Acknowledgements ==
Thanks to Richard Fowler for sending a summary updating and correcting information for John Fowler.* Source: <span id='S11'>S11</span> Author: Ancestry.com Title: 1840 United States Federal Census Publication: Name: Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., 2004.Original data - United States of America, Bureau of the Census. Sixth Census of the United States, 1840. Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, 1840. M704, 58; Repository: [[#R3]] * Repository: <span id='R3'>R3</span> Name: Ancestry.com Address: http://www.Ancestry.com E-Mail Address: Phone Number: * Source: <span id='S12'>S12</span> Author: Ancestry.com Title: 1830 United States Federal Census Publication: Name: Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., 2004.Original data - United States of America, Bureau of the Census. Fifth Census of the United States, 1830. Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, 1830. M19, 201; Repository: [[#R3]] * Source: <span id='S15'>S15</span> Author: Ancestry.com Title: 1810 United States Federal Census Publication: Name: Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., 2004.Original data - United States of America, Bureau of the Census. Third Census of the United States, 1810. Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, 1810. M252, 71; Repository: [[#R3]] * Source: <span id='S18'>S18</span> Author: Ancestry.com Title: 1800 United States Federal Census Publication: Name: Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., 2004.Original data - United States of America, Bureau of the Census. Second Census of the United States, 1800. Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, 1800. M32, 52; Repository: [[#R3]] * Source: <span id='S19'>S19</span> Author: Ancestry.com Title: 1820 United States Federal Census Publication: Name: Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., 2004.Original data - United States of America, Bureau of the Census. Fourth Census of the United States, 1820. Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, 1820. M33, 14; Repository: [[#R3]] * Source: <span id='S23'>S23</span> Author: Yates Publishing Title: U.S. and International Marriage Records, 1560-1900 Publication: Name: Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., 2004.Original data - This unique collection of records was extracted from a variety of sources including family group sheets and electronic databases. Originally, the information was deriv; Repository: [[#R3]] * Source: <span id='S38'>S38</span> Author: Ancestry.com Title: 1790 United States Federal Census Publication: Name: Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., 2000.Original data - Indexed from: United States of America, Bureau of the Census. Heads of Families at the First Census of the United States in the Year 1790. Washington, D.C.: Government; Repository: [[#R3]] * Source: <span id='S59'>S59</span> Title: Ancestry Family Trees Publication: Name: Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network. Original data: Family Tree files submitted by Ancestry members.; Repository: [[#R3]] NOTEThis information comes from 1 or more individual Ancestry Family Tree files. This source citation points you to a current version of those files. Note: The owners of these tree files may have removed or changed information since this source citation was created. * Source: <span id='S85'>S85</span> Author: Ancestry.com Title: Alabama Revolutionary War Soldiers Publication: Name: Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2000.Original data - Alabama Department of Archives and History. Revolutionary Soldiers in Alabama. Montgomery, AL, USA: The Brown Printing Co., 1911.Original data: Alabama Department of Arc; Repository: [[#R3]] * Source: <span id='S86'>S86</span> Author: Jackson, Ron V., Accelerated Indexing Systems, comp. Title: Alabama Census, 1810-90 Publication: Name: Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 1999.Original data - Compiled and digitized by Mr. Jackson and AIS from microfilmed schedules of the U.S. Federal Decennial Census, territorial/state censuses, and/or census substitutes.Orig; Repository: [[#R3]] * Source: <span id='S87'>S87</span> Author: Ancestry.com Title: U.S. General Land Office Records, 1796-1907 Publication: Name: Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2008.Original data - United States. Bureau of Land Management, General Land Office Records. Automated Records Project; Federal Land Patents, State Volumes. Springfield, Virginia: Bureau of L; Repository: [[#R3]] * Source: <span id='S88'>S88</span> Author: Ancestry.com Title: Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty-Land Warrant Application Files, 1800-1900 Publication: Name: Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2010.Original data - Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty-Land Warrant Application Files (NARA microfilm publication M804, 2,670 rolls). Records of the Department of Veterans Affairs, Reco; Repository: [[#R3]] Author: Jillaine Smith Author: Richard Shelley Author: Bob Keniston Author: Debby Black

ONE wife

I think...

Correct, one wife only.

Research Notes

WIkiTree informant Richard Fowler, in a 21 Jul 2014 email, said the John Fowler who married Elizabeth Rackley didn't marry Hannah Sutton. Hannah was married to John's cousin, also a John Fowler. Therefore, Hannah Sutton is being detached as his wife (especially because she is already attached to his apparent cousin, as his wife). Note this information from Richard Fowler:

  • About thirty-five years ago when I submitted the DAR application for my sister...I forwarded absolute proof that the Revolutionary Patriot John Fowler, had never been married to Hannah Sutton.
  • I then received a communication from DAR that my research was correct, that those descendants of Hannah Sutton Fowler, and the other John Fowler, who were in DAR would not be removed, but that the future applications would be denied.

Here’s the other John Fowler, Jr.

What a disappointing notification
One would think they could FIX it but understandable as well…
As a medical professional, I understand the concept of crossing out an error with a single line so that what has been noted in error is still visible while making a correction in the official record.

Thank you, Erica Howton
These corrections make me happy
Doesn’t take much lol

John Fowler, Jr. is John Fowler, Sr.'s first cousin.
John Fowler, Sr.
→ Daniel W. Fowler, Sr.
his father → John Fowler, Sr.
his brother → John Fowler, Jr.
his son

And here’s the third John Fowler who married Elizabeth Fowler

References

  • Fowler, Richard Gildart. A history of the Fowler family of southeastern North Carolina. 1989, p. 60. Norman, Oklahoma & Salt Lake City, Utah: Filmed by the Genealogical Society of Utah. < Archive.Org >
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