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Clara Matthys - END-OF-LINE ANCESTOR: Clara Matthys, wife of Gerrit-1 Jansen van Oldenburg

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END-OF-LINE ANCESTOR: Clara Matthys, wife of Gerrit-1 Jansen van Oldenburg

For the most scholarly research available on this family, see Phyllis Miller, “The Garrison-Gerritsen Descendants Of Gerrit Jansen Van Oldenburg Alias Gerrit De Mof,” The New York Genealogical And Biographical Record (Volume 124[1993]).

Literally her name means Clara daughter of Matthys, so the end of line ancestor would be her father Matthys NN.

Thank you for the rapid response!

Clara was known by more than one patronymic in records of New Netherland so her father was probably named Matthys or similar but nothing is known about him.

There are no records to support the claim that Clara was born in Amsterdam or that she was even Dutch. She worked for Jonas Bronck, who was more likely Scandinavian than Dutch, before she married a probable German.

Although Clara's father was probably named Matthys or similar, there are no records to identify her mother and "Anneken Matthys" may be an error derived from someone who did not understand the use of patronymics versus fixed surnames in Dutch and related cultures.

So that sounds like a long way of saying we don't know anything about her for certain.

What facts do exist? Sadly both her and her husband's profiles on Geni are basically blank and I don't have access or time to chase the reference you posted earlier.

In appreciation of your response, here are some verbatim quotes from the article cited, along with some additional commentary.

Phyllis Miller, “The Garrison-Gerritsen Descendants of Gerrit Jansen Van Oldenburg alias Gerrit de Mof,” The New York Genealogical And Biographical Record (Volume 124 [1993]).

“Gerrit-1 Jansen van Oldenburg, alias de Mof [“derogatory (Dutch) term meaning “the German”], was most likely born in Germany between 1610 and 1610 …” “Gerrit Jansen probably came from the county (Grafschaft [German]) of Oldenburg in northwestern Germany, or the city of the same name.”

21 July 1639

“According to O’Callaghan’s translation, Gerrit [Jansen van Oldenburg] was charged with rape 21 July 1639, but Van Laer’s translation says the charge was “eloping with a certain widow.” Gerrit pleaded that he and Clara Matthys were betrothed. He was fined 20 guilders and had to sign a 100 guilder note to obtain Clara’s release from her contract with Jonas Bronk.”

For more information, see also:

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Bronck-4#Nieuw_Nederland_records_for_...

1 July 1640

First child baptized in the New Amsterdam Reformed Dutch Church.

1 November 1641

“His wife Clara Matthys in a deposition on 1 November 1631 stated that she was 31 years of age.”

Matthys is simply a variation of the more common Dutch given name Mathjis and equates to Matthew in English, Mathias in German and Matts in Swedish.

https://www.behindthename.com/name/matthew

Clara is a German, English and Swedish name that does not appear to have a common Dutch equivalent.

https://www.behindthename.com/name/clara

Clara Matthys worked for a Swedish man, Jonas Bronck, before she married a German man, Gerrit Jansen van Oldenburg. Nothing is known of Clara’s origins beyond the fact that the first name of her unknown father was Matthys (or similar) and it seems more likely that she was German, perhaps Swedish, or even English, and not Dutch.

Thanks Perry.

I have Bronckhorst ancestors, but they are Dutch not Swedish.

I've removed Clara's "mother" as completely unsupported.
It looks to me that the birth location of Amsterdam is based on that being the location she seems to entered service with Jonas Bronck. There's a high probability that is correct but not nearly close to 100% so i removed it.
DOB of 1610 based on age 31 in deposition of 1 November 1641, seems about as good we'll ever get for evidence so looked to that.

Date of death was 1649 which i expect was based on the last known patent of her husband in that year. Over time "last known active" dates often transform into DoD. I've changed to After 1646 on the basis of the youngest child's baptism that I've seen (there's a younger child shown on Geni but she's completely unsupported by any evidence).
Location is accurate though vague.

I also altered the marriage date to AFTER the date of the court ruling about breaking her contract as the actual wording mentions their intent to marry not that they are married. Also changed location as i don't think New Utrecht existed at the time, certainly not with a minister doing marriages anyway.

Thank you for the follow-up.

New Amsterdam was so ethnically diverse, in part, because "old" Amsterdam was a global port with ethnic diversity, largely because religious difference were accommodated. So, in general, we cannot infer birth in Amsterdam from residence there. For example, the Mayflower Pilgrims of England (and elsewhere) spent a generation in Amsterdam before eventually departing for New England.

We will probably know the full truth but indirect evidence favors speculation that Clara was German, like her husband, or Swedish, like her employer, rather than Dutch. As another bit of indirect evidence, note that Clara had no known son named Matthys (or similar); if she were Dutch (or of a similar culture), that "should" have happened.

Yes but your "known" is a big qualifier plus her husband not being Dutch could have a big affect on the family's naming practice. The 3rd daughter allegedly being named Claertje would fit Dutch norms.

The fact that Clara signed on as an indentured servant to reach NA suggests to me that she is more likely to have been a local girl than an international visitor in Amsterdam. Obviously it's possible that she was a French princess looking for adventure, or a Swiss nun that suffered amnesia after being mugged, we simply cannot know. I think if she was Swedish she would more likely have signed her contract with Jonas in Sweden than NL?

Thanks for the exchange and the edits!

Hopefully others will read this discussion before (re-) asserting old assumptions.

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