Bloom-Siegel-Rosenberg Controversies - Also Bloom-Kamm Controversy

Private User
back in late 2019 you added Herbert (Herzl) Bloom and then
Toba Chaye (Fine) Bloom as Herbert Bloom's parent and then
Jacob Yeshuda Roseberg Rozaitsky as Toba Chaye (Fine) Bloom's spouse
Then in May 2020 you merged Jacob and Toba Rosenberg into existing profiles on Geni.

There is no Documentary evidence anyone has been able to find so far for Herbert (Herzl) Bloom having those parents.

So please - both tell us your current theory of who your father's parents are, plus what evidence there is for Herbert (Herzl) Bloom being the child of Jacob and Toba (Fine) Rosenberg

Rudy's book has them in NYC in summer of 1924Herbert is with them as an infant.

As for the third controversy I refer to above --
There is an Arizona Death Record for David W Bloom, father listed as "Hertz Bloom" and mother listed as "Frieda Unk" (for her birth surname not known).
It seems clear this is the Death Record for David Walter Bloom, son of Herbert (Herzl) Bloom.
There is no other Documentation nor knowledge passed down in a family that has been found so far for the mother of David Walter Bloom.

There are also records of many other women named Frieda. One is a Frieda Kamm who married an Emil Kamm.
As I understand it, Private User you have DNA matches to some folks whose Trees show them descending from that Frieda Kamm, and so based on that have decided the Frieda who is the mother of David Walter Bloom is that Frieda. Do I have that correct?

1930 Census also has another daughter, age 11, Bella.

Bella is one of the 4 daughters on the 1920 Census, looks like as Belle age 8/12.

Quite possible the Census has Herbert's age wrong or Rudolph is mistaken about which year they visited or both

There are New York City birth records for a Herbert Siegel born Apr 1925 and a Herbert Siegel born Aug 1925. None for 1924 or 1926. However, sometimes names are given after the birth record is created, or are changed, so that is not definitive.

That makes sense. Rudy says he was 11 - born in October 1913. So he was 11 in the summer of 1925. Math can be hard - I will change that in my copy.

I hope we are not confusing the 2 Herberts.

It is Belle on her SS. Married to Morafsky

MY FATHER'S BIRTH CERTIFICATE WAS FAKE EVIDENCE! JACOB SIEGEL WAS NOT PATERNAL LINEAGE PERIOD. JACOB'S GRAVESTONE WAS NO GRANDCHILDREN. MARY'S GRAVESTONE WAS GREAT GRANDMOTHER BECAUSE OF ME.

you have DNA matches to some folks whose Trees show them descending from that Frieda Kamm, and so based on that have decided the Frieda who is the mother of David Walter Bloom is that Frieda. Do I have that correct? YES, due to my DNA matches as KAMM cousins. All cousins are not related to Freida Kamm.

Private User -

You did not answer my question about who you believe your father's biological parents are.
Am I correct you currently believe your father's biological father is David Walter Bloom?

just above, in https://www.geni.com/discussions/266086?msg=1636434
you have confirmed that
you have DNA matches to some folks whose Trees show them descending from the Frieda Kamm who was married to Emil Kamm, and so based on that have decided the Frieda who is the mother of David Walter Bloom is that Frieda.

Do you have any other reason for believing David Walter Bloom's mother was Frieda Kamm?

You did not answer my question about Golda's GEDMATCH and 23andme.

I won't answer your question

1) As I explained, Golda is blood kin to Lillian's descendants thru Lillian's husband, and father of her children, Majer Drozd.
Nobody is saying Golda is blood kin to Lillian.
So her GEDMATCH and 23andme are not relevant to any of the questions we are discussing

2) The only reason to connect Herbert Siegel as the son of David Walter Bloom is one person's unsupported belief - not documentation, not family information given him, just his belief that Jacob Siegel cannot be the father of Herbert Siegel because on Jacob Siegel's Gravestone it apparently does not mention grandchildren/ being a Grandfather and, if I remember correctly from a prior conversation, because he does not see a strong resemblance in their photos.
No idea how he got from Jacob Siegel is not Herbert Siegel's father to David Walter Bloom is.

3) Private User says he has DNA matches to some folks whose Trees show them descending from the Frieda Kamm who was married to Emil Kamm, and so based on that has decided the Frieda who is the mother of David Walter Bloom is that Frieda -- but not only are there almost always many possible relationships for any given amount of shared DNA, and for Ashkenazi Jews is it extremely likely there are multiple far distant paths instead of one closer path, but the whole thing becomes totally meaningless if any of the assumed connections may be wrong -- in this case, we have absolutely nothing If David Walter Bloom is the father of Herbert Bloom is simply a totally unsupported belief

4) Apparently a decision was made that for his close relatives, Private User could have alternative profiles reflecting his strongly held beliefs -- but I was told once we get to the historical Tree, documentation is needed.
Herbert (Herzl) Bloom was born over 150 years ago - so now that we realize there is absolutely no reason to think he is a son of Jacob and Toba (Fine) Rosenberg, I would think that relationship should be removed.

We will only believe hard evidence. That has to be the rule.