Johanna Pietersz van Nimwegen - Dare of birth

Started by Gerhard Paul Swart on Wednesday, May 31, 2023
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According to the muster rolls Pieter Jansz (van Nimwegen) and Maria Helmus was listed in 1696 with 1 daughter. That would have been Susanna Maerschalk from her first marriage. In Jan 1701 they had 2 sons and 1 daughter and in Dec 1702 they had 2 sons and 2 daughters. Johanna was then probably the daughter born between Jan 1701 and December 1702.

Can you post a link?

Hi Sharon,

Here is the Jan 1701 roll:
https://www.nationaalarchief.nl/en/research/archive/1.04.02/invnr/4...

and here is the Dec 1702 one:

https://www.nationaalarchief.nl/onderzoeken/archief/1.04.02/invnr/4...

I have also updated the Wikitree profile for Maria Helms at https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Helms-257.

Thank you
Is there a 1696 one too?

1702 is Pieter Jansz van Niemwegen married to Jannetjie 'Gelinnsa?' - not Maria Helm. Am I missing s0mething?

I mean 1696

We need some documentation for Johanna Pietersz van Nimwegen that validates her parents.

In 1698 she is identified as Geertruij Eelmers and in 1702 as Jannetjie Helmus but from the sequence of events it is clear that it should be the Maria (same place, same husband, progression of children).

Geertruij was at the time married to and enumerated with Jan Siek and there is no record anywhere else of a Jannetjie Helmus.

I have not been able to find any baptism records for the children.

I was a bit puzzled, and feel a bit cautious: If the surname is indeed the same, we still don't know that Geertuij and Jannetjie weren't relatives rather than aliases; and while Jannetjie is clearly the first name here, https://www.nationaalarchief.nl/onderzoeken/archief/1.04.02/invnr/4... - Helmus is definitely not obviously the surname. Both the initial and the last letter do not look similar to the way the scribe wrote his E/H or s elsewhere in that doc?

Look at Jan Hermansz at the top and Gerrit Holden just a little down the list - the h is written the same.

Point taken :-)

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