Lourens Pietersz Erasmus - Which Martha did Lourens marry?

Sharon Doubell C

7/1/2023 at 12:30 AM

Which Martha Pinard did Lourens marry?

1) The daughter of Jacques Pinard and Louisa Cordier Martha Pinar

2) The daughter of Jacques Pinard and Maria le Fevre Terblanche Martha Pinard

Wilma Basson (born Greyling) PRO

7/5/2023 at 9:00 PM

II found this: Baptism of Marthe Pinard - daughter of Jacob Pinar en Loùise Cortier
Date: Marthe Pinard was baptized on 21 March 1717 at Nederduitsch Gereformeerde Kerk, Drakenstein, de Caep de Goede Hoop. The baptism was witnessed by Jean Nâeel.[7]
Date: 21 MAR 1717 [8]
Place: Drakenstein [8]
Anno 1717; Den 21ste Maart; Martha, doghter van Jacob Pinar en Loùise Cortier. Getuijgen Jan Nel. [9]
Name: Martha[10]
Event Date: 21 Maart 1717[10]
Event Place: Drakenstein, Dutch Reformed Church[10]
Father's Name: Jacob Pinar / Jacques Pinard [10]
Mother's Name: Loùise Cortier / Louise Cordier[10]
Witnesses: Jan Nel

Wilma Basson (born Greyling) PRO

7/5/2023 at 9:24 PM

Also This:
1. https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-C9BY-C9CM-T
2. https://www.wikitree.com/photo.php/7/71/Drakenstein_Huweliksregiste...

Wilma Basson (born Greyling) PRO

7/5/2023 at 9:29 PM

Also this: Names of the children
1. https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-C9BY-H972

Sharon Doubell C

7/6/2023 at 12:20 AM

Wilma, both Martha's have parent documentation - that's the problem. We need documents6 that include the mother of Lourens' wife :-/

Wilma Basson (born Greyling) PRO

7/6/2023 at 12:27 AM

I am trying my best to find docs! Something is very ''off'' here ( my humble opinion!) The search goes on!

Sharon Doubell C

7/6/2023 at 12:28 AM

Yup, I agree.

Sharon Doubell C

7/6/2023 at 12:41 AM

Phillipp: On her father's Probate / Inventory mentioned as spouse of Lourens Erasmus .

Wilma:https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-C9BY-C9CM-T

Sharon Doubell C

7/6/2023 at 12:44 AM

I think this does establish her mother as Lousa Cordier:
Thank you, you two

Staat en inventaris mitsgd:rs taxatie van alle soodanige goederen, als ab intestato sijn naargelaten en met er dood ontruymt door den landbouwer Jacob Pinart ten voordeele van sijn naargelatene huysvrouw Louisa Cordier ter eenre, en hun bij den anderen in huwelyk verwekte kinderen, met name

Martha gehuwt met den landbouwer Lourens Erasmus
Francina getrouwt met de medelandbouwer Carel van der Merve
Johanna gehuwt met Johannes du Toit Pietersz: en
Jan Pinart reets meerderjarig, mitsgd:sLouis Pinart oud 23 jaren, en
Jacob Erasmus oud 13 jaren bij representatie van wijle syn moeder Esther Pinart ter ander zyde

...

Lasten des boedels Rd:s Rd:s aan sooveel deselve aan haar kinderen bij wijlen haar eerste man Daniel Jacobsz: in huwelijk verwekt voor vaderlike erfportie nog debet is

...

Aldus gedaan en gepasseert ter Weescamer aan Cabo de Goede Hoop den 19 Augustus 1751.

- Inventories of the Orphan Chamber Cape Town Archives Repository, South Africa Reference no.: MOOC8/7.19a on http://databases.tanap.net/mooc/
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-C9BY-C9CM-T

Sharon Doubell C

7/6/2023 at 1:36 AM

Martha Pinard
Marthe Pinard bap August 23, 1699
d/o Jacques Pinard snr & Marthe le Feue

Martha Pinar
Marta Pinaar (bap 21 Mar1717
d/o Jacques Pinard Jnr & Louisa Cordier
x 9 Dec 1731 Laurens Pieter Erasmus

Pieter *Rasmus *Lourens *Maria Elisabeth *Johannis *Louisa *Jacob *Carel *Philippus *Daniël *Barend *Martha Francina *Abel Jacobus *Daniël Elardus

The older Martha is the sister of Jacques Pinard Jnr, and the younger Martha is his daughter.

Sharon Doubell C

7/6/2023 at 1:47 AM

cf Jacques Pinard

Should all be locked down now and impossible to mismerge without being a Curator.

Wilma Basson (born Greyling) PRO

7/6/2023 at 4:03 PM

Yeah - we are getting somewhere !!!! Still however - lots to be done here ! Thnx dear Sharon and Phillipp ! The search goes on !!! Let’s do this !!!

Wilma Basson (born Greyling) PRO

7/7/2023 at 12:05 AM

I found this: The daughter of Jacques Pinard and Maria le Fevre Terblanche = Martha Pinard
She married x Terre Blanche:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSKD-WS99-J?cc=282...
Steven Terre Blanche Male Martha La Febre Female Marriage 3 Dec 1713 South Africa

Wilma Basson (born Greyling) PRO

7/7/2023 at 12:07 AM

Interesting his name on the marriage certif is Steven Terre Blanche and not like on his Geni profile Etienne ! Should we change his name on the profile? I'll also will look for his baptism !

Wilma Basson (born Greyling) PRO

7/7/2023 at 12:09 AM

Also this: http://www.e-family.co.za/ffy/g6/p6128.htm

Sharon Doubell C

7/7/2023 at 7:53 AM

Start a discussion from his profile, Wilma

Wilma Basson (born Greyling) PRO

7/8/2023 at 8:54 PM

Also this - (on the name of Ettiene Terreblanche) :
2 December 1713, the name of Etienne was written in the record as Steven Terre Blanche.2 according to :
http://www.e-family.co.za/ffy/g2/p2995.htm#c2995.2

Wilma Basson (born Greyling) PRO

7/8/2023 at 8:56 PM

Also this: Marriage of Martha Pinar
[S470] Drakenstein Heemkring, compilers, Drakenstein I Marriages., CD-ROM (Paarl) Drakenstein Heemkring, 2006 , Marriage Register, Den 9 xber. [1731] Laurens Pieter Erasmus van Cabo de Goede Hoop burger aan Kraensteyn Jongman. met Marta Pinaar van Cabo voorn. ? Jonge Dochter.. Hereinafter cited as Drakenstein I Marriages.

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