Mathias Denman - Projects for a proven Revolutionary War veteran.

Started by Private User on Wednesday, July 5, 2023
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We need to add this Matthias (two "T"s) Denman to both the DAR and the Revolutionary War Soldier projects, please.

Any past confusion should be cleared up enough by now. There's only one man who fit the description.

Thank you.

Private User -- Does it help if I unlock the fields for you? I'm seeing notes in the "About" re: locked fields getting in the way, so I've unlocked everything for the time being. Let me know when things are the way they ought to be.

I can also re-curate (basically, replace Ben) and add disambiguation notes if you think that would help?

And, I've added him to the two projects I believe you were looking for.

Private User Thank you so much! I just fixed the spelling of his name and changed his birthday from the 13th to the 19th, to reflect his official military record.

And yes, it would be terrific for you to take over as curator.

I've updated -- but just to clarify, the FindAGrave source we have linked says he's buried in Springfield, Union County, New Jersey. Is FindAGrave wrong, or should our profile say he was from Union County instead of Essex?

The other Matthias' profile has him being born in Springfield, Union County, so I just want to make sure I do accurate disambiguation notes. Thanks!

I should link the other one: Matthias Denman

As seen on this 1850 map of Essex Co., NJ, the area known as "Union" was a township within Essex County (like Westfield, Elizabeth and Springfield among others) and not a county in its own right.

https://www.loc.gov/resource/g3813e.la000446/?r=0.109,0.083,0.757,0...

Wikipedia: "Springfield was formed as a township on April 14, 1794, from portions of Elizabeth Township and Newark Township, while the area was still part of Essex County, and was incorporated as one of New Jersey's first 104 townships by an act of the New Jersey Legislature on February 21, 1798. It became part of the newly formed Union County on March 19, 1857..."

Wikipedia: "Union County was formed on March 19, 1857, from portions of Essex County; it was the last of New Jersey's 21 counties to be established."

In my mind they are essentially interchangeable for any townships covered by either one at any given time, unless I can remember when Essex became Union. However, Elizabeth, Westfield, Cranford, and Springfield are all currently in what later became Union County.

Since my particular ancestry in that area involves people living before 1857, it's just easier for me to remember that it was Essex County. But since I'm aware of the historical development of these counties, I'm not confused at all to see "Union" instead of Essex. (Whether or not that is genealogically correct is another matter, and I don't claim to be a professional.)

Findagrave shows where graves are located on the modern map, understandably. Because when people want to visit graveyards, they need to know where they are and what they are called today, in order to find them.

So it's your call, Private User , since you would know far better than I about company policy for such matters.

"unless I can remember when [portions of] Essex became Union".

(Learning all the county border lines as they changed over time, and remembering with accuracy, would be impossible or extremely time consuming for me without a handy reference guide nearby.)

All I know is that the historical records I see most often, although some may currently be filed under Union County, were originally firmly planted in Essex County.

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