Elizabeth Carroll (Warfield) - Elizabeth Warfield as David Carroll's Mother

I've attached a source to Elizabeth and Charles which is an Ancestry reference to their compiled marriage record. See:

Elizabeth Carroll

I vaguely recall seeing a biography of David that mentions his father as being Charles Carroll. It may be in one of the newspaper articles attached as sources. If his father was Charles, then his mother would likely have been Elizabeth Warfield, according to the marriage record provided.

Hi Karl,

Thanks for your reply. Yes, David's father was mentioned to be a Charles, but there were very many Charles Carroll's. I see no evidence that they had the correct Charles Carroll, who was the son of Daniel. Charles mother was Mary Polton, and it seems he did die around 1836 when David's infant son died.

I am not saying it is not possible that this is correct, but it would be highly improbable, so I am looking for more direct and primary sources. I have collected as much as I could find on Mary Polton, including her will. I discovered this based on a geographic knowledge of where David and Charles lived (Guilford in Howard County) including where David's first son is buried at a lost cemetery in Guilford.

If Charles was married to Elizabeth, surely there would be more information about their children (Zachariah, John, David, Charles, James, Lemuel, and Mary). David also was the legal guardian of his brother's, John, two children (William Henry and Charles).

Are you more interested in David, Charles or the whole story?

Wayne

Your original question, though, was something along the line of "why does everyone believe Elizabeth Warfield is David's mother". The answer is that David's father is Charles and there is a marriage record between a Charles Carroll and an Elizabeth Warfield occurring at about the right time.

As for the "right" Charles, this can only be guessed at unless Charles shows up on the 1800, 1810, and 1820 censuses. It would then be possible to determine if this marriage was too distant to be reasonable.

If you believe you know who Charles married instead, please say so.

My interest in this family stem solely because I have Carroll relatives in Maryland, but they are Irish and not from David's family.

Hi Karl. Thank you. Yes, I understand. I have the "right" Charles showing up in the Census from those years, but as you know, they did not list spouses names. He was listed along with Mary Polton, his mother.

Please see the following about John, David's brother, and the rest of that particular Carroll clan as far as I can find - https://sites.google.com/view/guilfordhistoryhoco/home/guilford-qua...

I am saying that you all have the "wrong" Charles Carroll. I believe it is incorrect to associate Elizabeth Warfield as David Carroll's mother. David lived on the land of his father and grandmother along the Little Patuxent River above the mill and near the cemetery where David's son is buried.

I can not tell you the dozens of incorrect and poorly researched associations people claim. I would love to be one of those if someone finds my research to be factually incorrect - please tell me I am wrong so I can learn the truth.

As you know, there are more Carroll family lines in Maryland than can be kept track of, but I will keep looking and hope you do as well.Thank you.

Thanks, I've used this reference to rebuild David's tree. For dates I note that James died in 1814 and must have been the age of the majority then (21) but had no wife, so likely was born around 1790-1792. Charles was then born 1765-1770 assuming James was eldest. That would make his mother Mary Polton (nee unknown) born around 1744.

The Elizabeth Warfield 1795 marriage could still apply here but she could not have been James's mother. She would have been John's and everyone after him. The marriage was indeed in Anne Arundel County so it's definitely not out of the question at all that it could have been the same Charles.

Hi David. Since there is so little out there even about this Elizabeth Warfield (not the one that married Henry Ridgely) as well as Charles Carroll, I will keep an open mind about this possibility. For now, I am not ready to make that jump/claim, but will keep looking. FYI, Mary Polton was Mary Gary - I have no information on a possible Carroll marriage for her resulting in Charles.

Thanks for your work.
Wayne