George Packard, Sr. - Determination of George Packard's parents

Dean Richard Hobart PRO

8/30/2023 at 11:22 PM

As of 8/31/2023, some sources have Moses and Joan as parents, others have John and Joan (and some have John and Joan as grandparents), but it no actual proof and a lot of guessing.

Also, there is uploaded to Source tab Vol 6, Summer 1988 of Packard's Progress, which has a lot of English Parish records listed and on page 31 has George and Mary as parents for Samuel the immigrant's baptism.

1. This site has specific info but not actual sources posted
https://www.genealogy.com/forum/surnames/topics/packard/825/
>>George Paccard(packard) father was Moses Packard b. Abt. 1537 Earl Stonham, Suffolk, England. died in Coddenham, Suffolk, England,No death date yet, married a Joan ? 1556. Moses father was John Packard b. abt. 1492 Earl Stonham, Suffolk, England. d. Abt. October 23, 1553 in Earl Stonham, Suffolk, England. Married Joan Byrde, 1530 in Stonham, Sufflok,England.<<

2. This site is notes for a different page. If you search for 1623, you get only 9 entries, and this is about 20% down the page.
https://freepages.rootsweb.com/~gonetotexas/genealogy/Surname/notes...
>>The John Packard who may have been his father left a bequest to his son George as of 31 Jul 1557. John's widow, Joan, left a bequest to her son George as of 4 May 1591 . Marie Wyther's husband George was certainly alive in 1591 and is presumably the same George alive in 1557 when John Packard died. Therefore George would have been at least 43 years old when he married Marie in 1600 and 66 years old when he died. These ages are certainly plausible.

Stonham Aspal and Earl Stonham are adjoining towns in Suffolk Co., England. A third town which adjoins both of these is Little Stonham. It was the residence of one Aaron Packard in 1588 and 1592. The wills of both John and Joan Packard leave bequests to a son Aaron. Another town, Coddenham, is just 3 or 4 miles south of the Stonhams. It was the residence in 1585 to 1604 of one Moses Packard. The wills of both John and Joan Packard leave bequests to a son Moses.<<

3. The site George as the father of Samuel the Immigrant's father, but doesn't actually have George's parents,
https://plymouthcolony.net/families/packard1.html

4. The Packed with Packards site has specific info, but might be repeating other sources.
https://packedwithpackards.wordpress.com/2018/07/06/chapter-i-the-p...

5. FamilySearch profile has George as a Lord, son of Moses
https://ancestors.familysearch.org/en/LJ59-498/lord-george-packard%...

6. But Wikitree profile thinks that the George son of Moses don't match. (supposedly the George son of Moses from the will was a minor).
https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Packard-18
Here is the previously linked as father Moses, who has a younger George
https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Packard-21

Erica Howton C

8/31/2023 at 12:53 AM

I’ve detached.

The parents of George Packard, Sr. are seen as Moses Packard & Joan Packard but their son was George Packard (died as a youth)

But the geography is so close, surely they’re related.

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Suzan Martin

9/1/2023 at 1:30 AM

I've exhausted research on this Packard lineage being connected to an Earl..... I can't find them listed in any of the sources available in the UK.

Think our US cousins confused a Village by its name and a few people assumed our George and his father were Earl's

For my cousins - who may have misconstrued our George and his father being the Earl of Stonham, please read this [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earl_Stonham] Earl Stonham was simply the name of a Village

How the name of a Village = our GGF becoming Earl's

- An Earl is not noted to be there, just a farmer named George Packard and his family.....

Earl Stonham is near Stonham Aspal [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stonham_Aspal] No Earls are noted living in these two small farming villages near London.

An Earl would inherit a grand estate, not a simple country home such as the "Red House" It was a nice home, but not equal to an Earl's Estate.

Tried my best to prove this family came from a long line of Packard Earl's - I couldn't find them.... listed.

Also, an Earls Title is usually listed on the Probated Wills, Marriage Records, and Children's Birth Records - When reading the original written part, all documentation usually states this fact. People of importance the marriage records list the parents if they are of quality.

Occasionally, will research the Packards in England, love finding old documents, Suffolk does have many original records online.

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Suzan Martin

9/1/2023 at 1:33 AM

Wiki Tree had no actual original documentation proving George's link to Lord Moses, nor the proof of the Earldom of the Packards.

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Suzan Martin

9/1/2023 at 2:00 AM

Did use the name variables of Picard, Packer, or Parker in some records,

Erica Howton C

9/1/2023 at 2:06 AM

Yes, we kind of know who the Earls in England were. :)

Dean Richard Hobart PRO

9/1/2023 at 10:00 AM

Thanks Erica and Suzan. From what I can tell, no one really knows currently, so we should use the great feature Geni has to lock out interlopers and provide links for future people with bad trees. (well in fairness, trees that they think are good but they aren't) :)

in fact, I am always surprised when I send notices to the managers about some issue, and every so often I get a response from someone saying something like "I assume what has been put there is correct since the profile is 'curated'."

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