Sir Edward Bruce of Blairhall and Easter Kennet - Bruce Crest

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The correct Bruce Crest is used by Sir Edward Bruce as seen in his profile. The Bruce crest of the Clackmannan Bruce's have a moon in the crest. Now if we look at this line as it stands it's incorrect according to the coat of arms of Bruce. From David 7th Baron of Clackmannan the profiles that are currently being run all have the crest that are carried by the Broase's of Airth, the star in there crest. From David 7th up is incorrect according to the crest being run

Niel, In the Bio it's 1533 and not 1633 when a Edward Bruce gets a charter of Protection from James V.

Philip, Many thanks for drawing this typographical error to my attention. I have corrected it.

Only a pleasure to correct you Niel, on the crest of the Bruce's do you have a answer as to how the coat of arms jump from the crest of the Clackmannan's to the crest of the Airths?

Heraldry is of no interest to me.

Sorry that remark makes no sence to me! If you are are working with genealogy the first thing you have to look at is what is the family's coat of Arm's to at least see if you have the correct lineage. You seem to have a little ego, so tell me what is your interest?

accurate genealogy

Niel if you are interested in accurate Genealogy and you don't pay any attention to the particular coat of arms and the different insignia on the crests...that cant be right! Your lack of interest that you have for this issue on David Broase who carries the Airth crest and is a clear error in the genealogy of the Bruce's of Clackmannan that carry the Clackmannan crest leaves me bewildered!

If you are offended by the Armorial Ensigns displayed on the profile of Sir Edward Bruce of Blairhall and Easter Kennet of you should remove it,

No I'm not at all offended, the crest displayed on the different profiles are correct. Im trying to point out that the Clackmannan Bruce's suddenly jump to the Bruce's of Airth, who we know are not Bruce's, they are Broases, I'm merely pointing out that there are obvious mistakes here and false genealogy is being run currently.

You still have not provided a shred of evidence to support your belief they are Braoses Philip

The Airth Bruces are Broase's?
Well lets see what the Charters of Airth say shall we.

Jason Book of Bruce, The Airth Bruce's p131, p133

You need to provide a photo scan of the original document.

Ok will do that Jason.

The Book of Airth mentions that the Stewart princes held Airth for two Centuries and the reason they say this is because so called Robert II Stewart the Seneshals is in fact a Broase, the Stewarts are Broase's! one big happy family of Org's. Everything im going to say now I do have a shred of evidence for and if one looks in the charters they call them themselves when refering to each other as my beloved cousin. So let's start at the beginning and have a look at what has transpired, will send record's to show exactly what I'm saying. Marjory Broase is not the daughter of King Robert The Bruce!, in fact she's the daughter of Robert Broase and Mary de Burgh, her father is Robert Broase b. 11 Jul 1274 England, Robert The Bruce was born 21 March 1274 in Carrick, Argyllshire, Scotland and he married Isabella Nic Domhnaill, Countess of Carrick, Clan Mar b. Abt. 1278 and died Abt. 1320 Kildrummy, Aberdeenshire. Robert The Bruce married Isabella Mar 25 Mar 1306. So Marjory Broase was born 1296 and she seems to have married her cousin Walter Stewart/Broase, the Broases and Stewarts are of the same family originating from Clan Dol in France. Will explain what exactly happened around this time if anyone is interested? Will leave it thete for now and will load the records to backup what ive just said.

Provide the documents.

Sorry will correct the Mother of Marjory.

Will continue tomorrow Jason, good luck with the game tomorrow.

Will do.

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