Eliyau Elev Elias Spear (Spaer) - Isaak Spier, Judith Gitel Hirsch Florsheim and their sons are NOT the parents/ siblings of Wolf, Sam (Zundel), Sam (Schije) and Frieda Spear

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There is at least one and possibly other families that claim Isaak Spier and Judith Gitel Hirsch Florsheim as their ancestors. Jennifer Spier Stern has these same parents and all of the brothers in her family tree on Genianet, MyHeritage (Spier-Stern web site) and on Ancestry.

My Heritage shows the following: for Elias Spier:

Elias Spier
MyHeritage Family Trees Spier-Stern Web Site, managed by Jennifer Spier-Stern
• Birth Dec 27 1834 - Wittelsberg Darmstadt Germany
• Parents Isaak Spier, Judith Gitel Spier (born Hirsch Florsheim)
• Siblings Herz Spier, Kaufman Charles Spier, Mayer Meier Meyer Spier, Salomon Spier, David Spear Spier, Nathan Spier, Levi Loeb Spier Spear

https://www.myheritage.com/research/record-1-4964091-5-2616/elias-s...

Elsewhere Spier Stern added a page on Meir Spier on Geni
@ Meier Spier

In her work, Spier-Stern shows Elias Spier as being born in 1834.
He left Germany in 1854 and immigrated to the US.
MyHeritage shows the following travel information for Elias Spier:

Elias Spier
In Germany, Hesse Emigrants
Name Elias Spier
Birth 1834
Occupation Handelsmann, Kaufmann Fahrbürger Agent Krämer Spezialhändler Partikulier Expedient
Departure May 1854
Wittelsberg
Destination United States
Archive Marburg (HStAM)
Archive signature HStAM Bestand 180 Marburg Nr. 2188 = Wittelsberg
Old signature 180 MARBURG 2188
Source View full record on Hessian Institute for Regional History website

The 1860, 1870, 1880, 1900 US Census all show Elias as living in the US.

1870 United States Federal Census

Name Elias Spear
Age in 1870 35
Birth Date abt 1835
Birthplace Deutschland
Home in 1870 Isle La Motte, Grand Isle, Vermont
Race White
Gender Male
Post Office Isle La Motte
Occupation Manufacturer Of Hals & Coper
Father of Foreign Birth Yes
Mother of Foreign Birth Yes
Male Citizen Over 21 Yes
Real Estate Value 500
Inferred Spouse Sarah Spear
Inferred Children Judith Spear; Charles Spear; Nathan Spear

Household members
Name Age
Elias Spear 35
Sarah Spear 28
Judith Spear 7
Charles Spear 5
Nathan Spear 10/12
Susan Gould 96
Citation information
Detail
Year: 1870; Census Place: Isle La Motte, Grand Isle, Vermont; Roll: M593_1621; Page: 29A
Source information
Title
1870 United States Federal Census
Author
Ancestry.com
Note
ulli1870 U.S. census, population schedules. NARA microfilm publication M593, 1,761 rolls. Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d./liliMinnesota census schedules for 1870. NARA microfilm publication T132, 13 rolls. Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d./li/ul
Publisher
Ancestry.com Operations, Inc.
Publisher date
2009
Publisher location
Provo, UT, USA
Repository information
Name
Ancestry.com

This census information is significant because it all but proves that this Elias Spear is NOT the parent of Wolf Spear who was born in 1873 in Minsk, Samuel (Zundel) Spear who was born around 1880 in Minsk, Sam (Schije) Spear who was born in 1884 in Minsk and Frieda Spear Motenko who was born in (1883) in Minsk.
Documentation of these birthdates from Naturalization applications and Social Security Death records is available on Grandma Lena’s Tree on Ancestry.
https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/tree/184665659/family?cfpid=41...

The other census records for Elias Spier are also available on Ancestry on Suzanne Henry Spear’s
Spear Family Tree:
https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/181560445/person/1...

I am not a Geni Pro member, but can find and copy any of the documents mentioned above.

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