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Started by adam flack on Saturday, December 30, 2023
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Hello.
I believe the ship Carnatic is missing from the list?
I have a newspaper clipping for 11 Jan 1875 stating it arrived at Picton after 99 days at sea.
Two deaths noted and it states amongst the passengers are a number for ‘fielding block’.

My great great grandfather, Alfred Glastonbury (1857-1927) was on board I believe.

Morena Adam, project started and Alfred's profile added :) Deb M.
Alfred Glastonbury

There is a book called Plum Duff and Cake written by a man who was a passenger on the 1875 voyage. If you are in NZ, it should be in your local library, It contains a full passenger list.,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,My mother-in-law did have a copy out of the library before Christmas, and we will check and see if she still has it.
Also found in Find a Grave, in case you are interested...
Alfred Glastonbury (1857-1927) - Find a Grave Memorial
I had been researching William Fryer and his wife who were on the ship also.
Hope this helps.........Will come back to you if//when I can find out if m-in-law still has the book

Thank you all for those bits.
Barry Billington I’m in the UK - descended from Alfred’s grandson, also Alfred who returned here in the late 1930’s.
I’ve found Alfred and his wife Matilda’s grave on find a grave thank you.
For some background on Alfred - if of interest - he was born in the Stroud Union workhouse by Sarah Glastonbury, a single woman who died about a year later. He was left in the care of some elderly and seemingly unrelated people in the parish before making the NZ journey around age 17 I believe.
He and his family became quite prominent in canvas town and he was a member of the ancient order of foresters for around 50yrs. He & family were very much involved in the area - named on several paper articles regarding the canvastown school and supporting the pelorus hotel.

I do have a photo of him and his wife Matilda in later life and think there may be photos of them in the Nelson museum collection but mislabelled / not named so haven’t been able to confirm it.

Back to the original point - I don’t see his name on the list Michael Edward Tarr provided. Anyone able to help locate him on any documents? That would be amazing and greatly appreciated!

Adam

"FAIR PLAY” DEFENDED.
Pelorus Guardian and Miners' Advocate., Volume 19, Issue 72, 11 September 1908, Page 5
Signed by Alfred Glastonbury 8 September 1908

Using: https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/PGAMA19080911.2.38.1?i...

Carnatic passenger list is apparently held in the HOCKEN Collection. https://www.otago.ac.nz/library/pdf/hoc_fr_bulletins/14_bulletin.pdfis

Michael Edward Tarr brilliant. Thank you. I’m currently trawling through and have saved hundreds of articles from the Nz papers past sight relating to the family name.

I wonder which of the Alfred’s this was - the ‘original’ or his son (who died in the 1st world war). I have some
difficulty separating them in articles around this time when just the first name is recorded as I believe both to have been quite active and articulate in the local community.

Adam.

Michael Edward Tarr the link to the Hocken collection doesn’t appear to want to load. Would you be so kind as to check it’s copied correctly?

Handwritten passenger list Photograph/archive https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-65G6-8L?i=18&c...

Burial Plots for Alfred and Matilda
Alfred: https://www.marlborough.govt.nz/services/cemeteries/cemetery-record...
Matilda:https://www.marlborough.govt.nz/services/cemeteries/cemetery-record...

Both in plot 470... (Answers that question for you)

Sorry - read wrong. Plots 469 Alfred and 470 Matilda

Michael Edward Tarr thank you. There’s a wealth of info there for me to read through and compare to my own research. Very much appreciated.
I have lots of docs and my tree / research via another site - so it makes it potentially tricky sometimes to share records due to copyright / terms & conditions etc. I’m not sure how to upload the photo of Alfred and Matilda that I have but would be happy to have that added to the records for others to see and use.

Amazing thing is it was not until contacted by Adam Flack I did some deeper research and hello I am related by several families to Alfred and Matilda Glastonbury. My mother a Wade and her mother a Burling. My ancestry tree is free to wander through..

Barry Billington very cool!

@Adam Flack and all here,
Just introducing myself and letting you all know that I will do what I can to see if I can help at all. The most annoying thing of all is not to be able to find an ancestor's name on a ship or a ship that can go to Australia first then NZ or in the reverse. Some even went to the Cook Islands so it can be a daunting task. Sometimes I just get so confused I give up and have to give it a miss for a couple of weeks or more.
Anyway, just saying Hi and keeping up with the notifications and hope to at least be able to help one day and most certainly will let you know if it helps me.
Thank you to all.
Happy New Year
Regards Lori Marshall

Lori Marshall it is fun when you find a name though isn’t it! A little wow moment - especially if you find a document with a signature. I love that connection to the past - knowing an ancestor had been there and written on that piece of paper.

Yes, it is for sure Adam. I get a real buzz just seeing a birth certificate with a cross for a signature. Funny to think back in the day a lot of men especially could not read or write. I can relate as others, and you have that WOW moment.
I'm still on the block of my family on one side but have to keep on with others. Sometimes I think the only way to break the block is pay a genealogist and that's an expense.
Regards
Lori

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