Richard de Thornhill - Alice's second marriage is not correct.

Started by Private User on Wednesday, January 10, 2024

Private User

1/10/2024 at 9:38 AM

Alice de Quincy did not remarry and did not have the 3 Thornhill children. Especially the 2 youngest when she was 55.

Richard de Thornhill married Alice de St Liz (1150-1204) in 1165, daughter of Simon St Liz, earl of Huntingdon and Northampton.

Private User

1/10/2024 at 9:42 AM

Here is Simon's page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon_II_de_Senlis,_Earl_of_Huntingdo....

His Geni page incorrectly lists his daughter as "Amice" instead of Alice which could be the source of the confusion.

Private User

1/10/2024 at 9:53 AM

Here is Alice Senlis (St Liz)'s father's page: Simon II de Senlis, Earl of Huntingdon

Private User

1/12/2024 at 9:31 AM

It appears that Amice de Senlis is correct: https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ENGLISH%20NOBILITY%20MEDIEVAL.htm#...

But Alice de Quincy must still be incorrect due to not being able to remarry.

All we have are Richard marrying an "Alice" in Yorkshire deeds and Yorkshire Archaelogy Journal vol 29 confirms the date of 1204-1209 for Richard de Thornhill's death and Alice's existence:

|https://archive.org/stream/YASRS065/YASRS065_djvu.txt
https://archive.org/stream/YAJ0291929/YAJ0291929_djvu.txt

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