Hendrick Obee (Hendricksen) - Source for death of Hendrick Obee (Hendricksen)?

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I see Hendrick Obee (Hendricksen) was born circa Jan 1654, and died 1656. Does anyone know the source for this younger Hendrick's death?

I also see that he has a sibling (my direct ancestor) André Aubé dit Langlois (born Obe) born circa 1684, 30 years after his brother was born, and about 60 years after their father was born (and when their mother was about 56 years old). This is not impossible. However, if there is no evidence that the younger Hendrick (c.1654 - 1656) died young, then maybe he was André Aubé dit Langlois (born Obe)'s father, and the elder Hendrick (c.1625 - 1693) was his grandfather.

Of course, if there is evidence of the younger Hendrick's death in (or around) 1656, then clearly he could not be André's father. In this case, André's father is likely the older Hendrick, unless the older Hendrick had a 2nd son named Hendrick born after the younger one died. But so far, I have found no evidence or suggestion that there was a 2nd Hendrick son to the elder Hendrick Hendricksen Obe.

Hendrick junior didn't die when he was that young. There are additional New Netherland and Province of New York records pertaining to him. I don't know why people add dates without evidence, and apparently without doing any research. It happens a lot on Geni, and it probably cannot be helped!

As for André Obé, this is just conjecture at this point. Donat Robichaud, a Catholic priest, did some research and pointed out that this was the most likely father in his opinion. This was not reasonably exhaustive research.

Aeltje Claes wasn't born that early, but it would have been a geriatric pregnancy. People put in approximate dates.

Thank you. I was trying to match information about André Aubé dit Langlois (born Obe) in Geni to my tree on myhertiage. I am still researching my connection André Aubé. His siblings and father seem suspect (possibly inaccurate). I think André Aubé might have been the son of Hendrick junior, but I have no documentation, so I will not submit any edits in Geni.

In terms of Geni, I only submit and edit things where I know accurate information, or that I have matched with family members who have done more research than I have (1 family line going back many genearations). I am in my 60s, so I have direct memory of some ancestors born in the late 1800s. I also have accurate details many of their descendants, again from my direct knowledge, or from family history. I have one branch that goes well beyond my great-grandparent and that is actually from a cousin who has researched that family line.

I appreciate that you took the time to reply to my question.

"I think André Aubé might have been the son of Hendrick junior, but I have no documentation, so I will not submit any edits in Geni."

Right now, I don't know of any evidence that Hendrick Obe, Jr., ever married. There is no marriage record in the Province of New York, and André Obe's New France records indicate that he was abducted from somewhere in the area Corlear, which is supposed to mean Schenectady. As a consequence, the best guess is actually Hendrick Obe, Sr., since there is no marriage and thereby no potential mother for André in the next generation.

Nobody ever writes that Hendrick Obe, Sr., is the proven father of André. It's just the best guess at the moment. :-)

The parentage of captives is notoriously difficult to prove. Often, there is only one record that ties the two generations together with direct evidence. I heard that many people were taken captive from the English colonies, but genealogists haven't established were they wound up yet. Admittedly, in some cases, the natives kept them instead of selling them to the French, like cattle at the market! :-)

Other captives were redeemed by the English themselves, when the English managed to find the captors and negotiate their return. It was the native version of taking prisoners of war.

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