Thomas Stanley, of Elford - Thomas...

Started by Curt Quentin Harris on Wednesday, May 22, 2024
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...or Thomas: Thomas Stanley, 1st Baron Stanley

I would venture a guess that this is the same image used on both these profiles. It seems to happen fairly frequently on this website. Due to this I've found it more comfortable to use family crests or landscapes on any profiles I save to my trees rather than a personal painting or image.

I wonder which Thomas this is?

Good snag, Curt Quentin Harris. I can't find a source for the photo. No attribution on either profile, which isn't great.

Perhaps a curator can remove them. Both profiles have multiple managers who could assist. I like maps on profiles, myself for some of the same reasons you mention.

Clothes are Tudor era. Cannot have been the portrait of Thomas Stanley, of Elford (1492-1463)

Image style doesn’t particularly fit Thomas Stanley, 1st Baron Stanley (1406-1459) either.

Private User is this worth tracking down to a later Sir Stanley?

Should be this guy.

https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q4444793

Thomas Stanley, 2nd Earl of Derby

Thomas Stanley, 2nd Earl of Derby - bingo.

We can lock medía to prevent future errors.

Thank you.

This is where I usually go for "official " photos.

https://www.npg.org.uk/collections/search/person-list.php?sText=Ear.....

The National Portrait Gallery is filled with the people, portraits and the life stories of a nation. The Primary Collection of paintings, sculpture, miniatures, drawings, prints, photographs, silhouettes and mixed/new media works contains 12,690 portraits (as of January 2023) of the most famous people in British history and culture from the 8th century to the present day. Of these, 4,108 are paintings, sculptures and miniatures. In addition, there are some 8,564 works on paper.

The Gallery also holds a Reference Collection of portraits, mostly printed portraits and a smaller collection of drawings and sketchbooks, together with silhouettes and caricatures, which have been acquired primarily for research and documentary purposes and to provide context for the Gallery’s Primary Collection. The Reference Collection is primarily housed in the Heinz Archive and Library and contains about 85,000 works on paper, 2,800 drawings, 75 paintings and 170 sculptures, and a small but growing collection of popular ceramics. This unique national resource allows the Gallery to collect beyond the acquisition criteria for the main Collection, and is drawn upon for display purposes as well as supporting learning activities and research into portraiture at the Gallery.

The Heinz Archive and Library contains about 50,000 books and manages the Gallery’s Records and Collected Archives.

The Gallery also holds an important Photographs Collection which spans both the Primary and Reference Collections. It comprises more than 250,000 original photographic images of which at least 130,000 are original negatives. They date from the 1840s to the present day. The Collection is made widely available online, with 222,278 digital records available (of which 159,042, or 71%, are illustrated) as at June 2021. These records comprise 12,696 Primary Collection portraits and nearly 210,000 from the Reference Collections.

Yes, NPG is wonderful, great reminder.

Google images does show people mixed up with each other.

I like using Google image or reverse search but NPG is a go to for me. I found it while trying to work out my many Stanley lines. :)

good work, y’all.

Probably a good spot to mention that Cawley’s Medlands “English Lords” was updated just last week.

https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ENGLISHNOBILITYMEDIEVAL3P-S.htm

v4.7 Updated 11 May 2024

Thanks for the info. Bookmarking that site, Annber Lynn Collins! I had forgotten all about it.

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