Vikhna Sarah Glaz (Zarch) - picture

Hi Sharon.
I see Geni says "Sharon (Partom) Rozov is Vikhna (Zarch) Glaz's daughter's husband's great nephew's wife's great nephew's wife's brother's wife's third cousin once removed." so I take it your interest is not because she is blood kin.
What has sparked your interest?

Geni says Vikhna (Zarch) Glaz is my third cousin once removed's wife's great uncle's wife's grandmother.
Pretty sure that path was not what sparked my interest. But I know I put a good bit of effort into her in the past.

It has been a while since I worked on her. It will take me a while to re-familiarize myself. I have blood kin who lived to well over 100, so born in 1820's and died in 1920's is certainly possible.

I have gone thru and tried to make sure all the Documents I uploaded to her Profile are Public, so you should now be able to read them.
Including a 2-page arrival document.
Please do so, not removing her from anything at this time.
Also check out the other Public Discussions about her

Are you thinking two or more different people have been conflated?
And if so, please explain why in more detail.

Sharon Rozov

The 1897 Census you refer to said she was born in Vilkomir.
You may want to see the summary of that Census that has been in her Timeline for a while now.
Vilkomir and Ukmerge are the same place.
https://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/ukmerge/old/ukmerge.html
It looks to me like you changed her from a correct place of birth to an incorrect place of birth..
If you do not think that is true, please explain why.

I also see you deleted the death details that had been on her profile.

From all I see in the Overview, most or all of which I entered, I clearly questioned if she was associated with the correct death details.
But that is very different from believing all reference to her in US should be removed.

I think definitely way more discussion needed

The Gravestone Photo currently shown on her profile is the same as the one shown in this Find A Grave Memorial: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/207703219/wichne-glass

Jeff Meyerson (c) - you were the one who added that Gravestone Photo to Vikhna Sarah Glaz's Profile - which Sharon now wants to eliminate - along with all references to her in the US. So tagging you.

What I had entered in Overview about the Memorial and related info as of May 2023:

It is possible this is her Death Notice/obit: https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-daily-record-mrs-victoria-gl... - in a Long Branch, NJ paper.
Geni Profile currently says Death: April 06, 1924 (92-93) - Long Branch, Monmouth, New Jersey, United States
Newspaper places it as April 7th, 1924. There is entry in NJ Death Index for Victoria Glass in Long Branch in April 1924 - but apparently April 4th.
Newspaper article has husband Israel still alive, makes no mention of children. 1897 Census for her had her a widow, so probably NOT the same person.
No actual reason to believe she is this Victoria, but may be where that Death Info comes from.
This Gravestone has her as Wicne Glass. https://images.findagrave.com/photos/2020/139/207703219_375ac485-0f... died April 6, 1924 as on Profile, ae 93 so birth about 1931, as on Profile.
The FindaGrave Memorial with it appears to have her children wrong

There is a 1908 NY Arrival for a Wichne Glass, listed as age 65, going to her son-in-law M. Schneider in New York

And there is a 1910 Census for a Maurice Schneider in New York with his Mother-in-law Sarah Glass, listed as age 60, it says immigrated 1899.
How likely is it the Wichne Glass on that Arrival record and Sarah Glass on 1910 Census are the same person?

I uploaded a copy of the 1910 Census in May 2023 and Eric Allan Schiff added two sons (duplicates, in all likelihood) and uploaded a copy of the same 1910 Census in Apr 2024 which he then used to create a Source for the folks in it.
Eric - please see initial post in this discussion and add your comments.

Sharon Rozov - thanks for fixing place of birth!

Dear Lois,
I am not related to this family but doing this research for a friend, who is a direct descendent of Vikhne Glaz.

I suspect that this profile ties up 2-3 women by the same name

.I am looking at a 1908 arrival document that says Vikhne was born in ~1843, the gravestone says she was born around 1831 and the obituary says she was born in 1851.

Unless you have another arrival document, I don't see anything that ties the person in the US to the one in Lithuania (1897 cenzus), besides for a similar name and father's name.

I updated the birth place, thank you for noting my error.

Thank you, Sharon

Death Notice for Rosa (Glaz) Schneider: https://www.newspapers.com/article/asbury-park-press-rose-schneider...

Are we agreed that is the same Rosa as in that 1910 Census?

That death notice names her brother as Benjamin Glass. And
--On Benjamin's 1901 Arrival Record, it says he is going to his sister, Mrs. Schnaider(?) - 125 Broadera(?) New York
That record is tagged to his profile and public.
--And in the 1908 Arrival Record for Wichne Glass, listed as age 65, she going to her son-in-law M. Schneider at 125 Br- something in New York.
Looks to me like those two addresses are the same.

If so, then Wichne Glass who arrived in 1908 is Sarah Glass, the mother of Rosa.
The person giving the info to the 1910 Census taker could easily have not known or have forgotten she did not come over with the rest of the family. And ages on US Census and Revision lists were both of varying degrees of accuracy. Ditto Ship Manifests.
1908-65 = 1843 --- 1910-60 = 1850 --- 1897-75 =1822 -- 1924-93=1831
I think we have sloppy reporting in a lot of places, but I tend to think that is probably her gravestone.
Name matches, father matches, the difference between 1822 and 1831 I see as insignificant.

Possibly the NJ Death Record gives more info. Anything else?

If you say that the 1908 arrival paper indicates M. Schneider as her son in law, it must be her.

I am missing this 2nd page of the arrival document, can you please point me to it?

Jeff Meyerson (c)cousins indeed 😀

Wichne Glass 1908 Arrival p. 1: https://www.geni.com/documents/view?doc_id=6000000194656660824&...
Wichne Glass 1908 Arrival p. 2 -- https://www.geni.com/documents/view?doc_id=6000000194656609840&...

Benjamin Glass 1901 Arrival: https://www.geni.com/documents/view?doc_id=6000000194647522831&...

1905 NJ Census - showing Morris and Rosa Schneider - does it look like same address in all 3?
https://www.geni.com/documents/view?doc_id=6000000205001371856&...

Sharon Rozov - links above.

But you should have been able to see the 1908 Arrival p. 2 in her Media Tab.
Did you click "View All"?

Thank you Lois

Thank you both!