
I used wrong Geni profile yesterday. So I write the same from this one plus some more.
DNA clearly shows that Antti Piippo's father is "soknsmed" Anders Lipponen, born the 13. November 1797 in Pyhäjärvi.
DNA and the court register for Oulu also clearly shows that Antti Piippo is the father of Johan Ollanketo, born the 14. February 1857 in Pulkkila.
Here are a couple of links about Antti Piippo being the father of Johan Ollanketo. The court chose another father (which DNA is the wrong father, Anders Piippo is the correct father).
https://tuomiokirjat.kansallisarkisto.fi/documents/850507/pages/237...
https://tuomiokirjat.kansallisarkisto.fi/documents/851208/pages/295...
Hi, Riina.
I have not worked much with this in the last couple of years. Here is a brief overview (and I hope I not type wrong). I believe it is ok to mention names of people who have taken a DNA test and are no longer are alive.
My great great grandfather is Henrik / Heikki Hukkanen, born the 28.09.1838 in Rantsila. I knew that his mother was Maria Hukkanen (born what turned out to be the 18.09.1812) in Pulkkila.
Henrik moved to Norway and got two daughters there. The oldest daughter is unknown for me (she was given away). The youngest daughter is my mothers mother, Jenny, born in 1889 in Tennes, Balsfjord, Troms, Norway.
When Henrik was asked about his ancestors, he responded in Swedish: Jag vil inte ödelegga den norska adelen.
My mother told me that Henrik's father had 43 children with 6 women (which turns out to way to many children but he got children with at least 8 women).
I got my mother (Elin Skarsvåg) and my mothers sister (Ågot Jensen) to take DNA tests via Myheritage. They are both dead now.
I also got a Finnish half 2. cousin of my mother from Rantsila (on Maria Hukkanen's side) to take a DNA test which he let me have control of.
I also have 4 cousins which are children of 2 of my uncles of my mother who have taken a DNA test on Myheritage.
Some time later, a woman took a DNA test, which showed good DNA match with Elin (around 100 cM) and Ågot (around 120 cM), mainly on Henrik Hukkanen's father's side. I could also see that they were related through this woman's grandfather, Johan Ollanketo.
So I asked this woman if one of her cousins also descending from Johan Ollanketo, to take a DNA test. So Marketta Ahonen took a DNA test (she is unfortunately not alive now). And also Marketta got good DNA match with my Elin and Ågot. This is via a 2. woman which Henrik Hukkanen's father had children with.
Some other good DNA matches Elin and Ågot had with some persons were descending from Eemil Aukusti Junnila, born the 18. August 1879 in Paavola. This is via a 3. woman which which Henrik Hukkanen's father had children with.
And I saw that others got good DNA match which had to be descending from what had to be Henrik Hukkanen's half sister, Kaisa Pahaoja, born the 18. October 1835 in Pulkkila. This is via a 3. woman which which Henrik Hukkanen's father had children with.
I could see from DNA match that the father of Henrik Hukkanen either came from (or his parents came from) Pyhäjärvi or Kiuruvesi.
So I started to look for all men who moved from Pyhäjärvi or Kiuruvesi to Pulkkila or Rantsila (I had to forget Piippola because too many moved to that place). I found no candidates who moved directly from Pyhäjärvi or Kiuruvesi to Pulkkila or Rantsila. So I started to look for men who moved to Pulkkila or Rantsila via a another place. I had Anders Lipponen on my block, but I wrongly believed that DNA matches were too poor.
But very many pieces in a puzzle came into place when https://tuomiokirjat.kansallisarkisto.fi/ was made public. And he showed me that Henrik Hukkanen's father is Anders Lipponen.
And I could see by help from DNA matches that Johan Lipponen's father is Antti Piippo and Antti Piippo’s father is Anders Lipponen.
And that Eemil Aukusti Junnila got the same 2 parents as his younger siblings. Eemil's parents had not yet married when Eemil was born. Eemil's father is therefore Johannes Junnila (born 24.06.1856 in Paavola) and Johannes Junnila's father is Aaron Junnila (born 09.11.1825 in Rantsila) and Aaron is the oldest known child of Anders Lipponen. There are plenty of DNA matches which confirms this. So Eemil Aukisti should get Juhannes Junnila listed as his father in Geni.
And I saw that others got good DNA match which had to be descending from what had to be Henrik Hukkanen's half sister, Kaisa Pahaoja, born the 18. October 1835 in Pulkkila. This is via a 3. woman which which Henrik Hukkanen's father had children with.
Here is a list.
Nov 9 1825 Aaron Junnila Rantsila with Ulrika Junnila, born the 13. 08.1798
Apr 5 1827 Brita Junnila Rantsila with Ulrika Junnila, born the 13. 08.1798
Apr 16 1827 Greta / Margareta Savaloja Rantsila with Maria Savaloja, born the 05.03.1799 in Piippola. Greta Savaloja died in 1848 without getting children.
June 2 1828 Antti / Anders Piippo Piippola, with Anna Greta Piippo, born the 29.09.1799 in Piippola
June 23 1830 Johan Mattila Rantsila, with Liisa Gabrielsdotter / Kaapontytär Mattila, born the 22.04.1806 in Rantsila. Johan Mattila died the 18.08.1832.
Oct 18 1835 Kaisa Pahaoja Pahaoja 15, Pulkkila, with Anna Pahaoja, born the 12.02.1813
Apr 14 1838 Maria Mulari Pulkkila, with Madlena / Magdalena Abramsdotter Mulari, born in 1810. Maria Mulari died the 12.10.1858 without getting children.
Sep 28 1838 Henrik Mariason Hukkanen Rantsila with Maria Hukkanen, born the 18.09.1812 in Pulkkila
Out of those 8 is Anders Piiippo the only one not listed in the court register. Maybe because his mother, Anna Greta Piippo, got 4 children with different men. Also note that both Anders Lipponen and Anders Piippo ended up as parish smith “soknsmed”.
June 24 1839 MARRIAGE to Anna Kaisa Wähä born the 17.01.1810 in Rantsila
June 2 1840 Riitta / Brita Lipponen Rantsila
Feb 7 1842 Juho / Johan Hilli (born Lipponen) Mattila, Sipola 9, Rantsila
Mar 20 1844 Antti / Anders Lipponen Mattila, Sipola 9, Rantsila
July 11 1846 Aapeli / Abel Hilli (født Lipponen) Mattila, Sipola 9, Rantsila
It is not possible to know if Anders Lipponen is the father of Zachris Savaloja (18.03.1834-03.04.1834). In the court, Anders claimed that the mother, Maria Savaloja was a prostitute so that another man could be the father of Zachris. Maria Savaloja died the 2. May 1834.
And can not find anything written about Walborg Mattila (23.11.1832-31.05.1834). Also here the child died so young that it was not important to find the father. Note that Walborg’s brother, Johan Mattila, died the 18.08.1832.
It is written much about Anders Lipponen and all what he did, especially about money (i.e. not paying rent for 3 years or stealing items). Some examples which not has to do with economy:
Usually, Anders Lipponen, seduced the women. (or he was more direct, he took Margareta Savaloja around her waist and threw her down on a bed).
But it is also written in court register that Anders (around 1830) several time broke into Maria Pucki’s house by lifting the door of it’s hinges. But he failed to rape her every time. So later he served Maria Pucki and Brita Lisa Paaso beer, rum and red liquer and food.
And that Anders in 1835 were betrothed with a rich daughter named Mathilda Elfveng from Tyrnävä. One condition was that Mathilda should inherit 20,000 riksdaler, which her parents did not have. So Anders sued Mathilda for 100 riksdaler.
If administrator Raija or another great grandchild of Anders Piippo can take a DNA test on Myheritage, they will see that they will get 1/64 DNA match with Marketta Ahonen and her cousin. And 1/128 DNA match with Elin Skarsvåg and Ågot Jensen. A great great great grandchild of Anders Piippo which is rather close related to Raija, got around 80 cM with Ågot Jensen.
Hi, Riina.
I copied my family tree to somewhere long ago, maybe it was to Gedmatch. But you can also look in Geni where much of it is registered.
Here is my mothers mothers father, Henrik Hukkanen:
Henrik Mariason Hukkanen
And here am I:
Kristian Magnus Skarsvåg
But it is better if I give you access to look at my main tree in Myheritage.