ATTENTION Curators, please assist

Started by Shmuel-Aharon Kam (Kahn / שמואל-אהרן קם (קאן on Sunday, September 5, 2010


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6/8/2012 at 5:02 AM

Terri, if you want Geni to hide a message until they can review it, you need to click on the Report button under the name of the poster.

Private User
6/8/2012 at 5:11 AM

Sharon, Thank you. This has never been a problem in the past and I am not happy about this one now.
This kind of thing affects everyone who collaborates and does merges or works on your own tree. I guess we should never work with anyone on here or merge profiles for anyone again, when this is what happens.

<private> Baldwin
6/8/2012 at 5:36 AM

Does anyone know if Hannah's was reported as 'abandoned'? It does seem that 3 years of non-activity is a bit much.

6/8/2012 at 8:36 AM

<private> Cottingham

I can see that you created a family tree of around 193 names. I can't really "see" that tree because you have not provided a link to a public Geni profile and I'm pretty useless without that (the URL).

But I also suspect you have a tree viewing issue as well. How many generations is your tree view set to? Because in own current generation, if I look at my

6/8/2012 at 8:41 AM


If i look at my tree with a 3 generation setting, I easily use my 100 profiles. If i look at my tree in horizontal layout, say following 8 generations, I very quickly come to profiles I did not create nor could ever have created, because they are part of the World Tree.

So please describe what you see. There's been a lot of growth in Geni and it's come a long way in 3 years.

<private> Cottingham
6/8/2012 at 11:03 AM

I left because my tree was so severely altered and I only mentioned Terri because she shows up as Manager on so many of the profiles. I have decided that as soon as I am finished transferring and double checking I have everything I am going to delete every profile possible that I have created.

Also, there needs to be far more information about what the site considers collaboration, if I had known there would be merging and random addition I never would have done it!

6/8/2012 at 11:18 AM

Hannah can you please, pretty please, reference a profile you are talking about? It's my tree as well - our common ancestor shows as Millicent Berkeley - so I have an interest in getting it right. But I cannot without more information.

<private> Cottingham
6/8/2012 at 11:31 AM

I am having trouble finding her in my tree (thousands of names have been added) but if it is one I created I will leave it and message you the information in it so you can keep it after I close my account.

6/8/2012 at 11:40 AM

Hannah - if you are seeing "thousands in your tree" that is your tree viewing settings that only you control. Set it for three generations in tree view.

<private> Cottingham
6/8/2012 at 12:03 PM

Katherine Dixon

Here this should be the line you want, go crazy. If its not mine its likely to survive the end of the day. Not going to fiddle with settings since I am deleting soon enough anyway.

Private User
6/8/2012 at 12:46 PM

Erica, if my name is on a profile and only my name is on a profile it means that I and only I have added a profile and it has not been merged.
And if my name is on a profile along with another name, or more then one other name, it means that there are others that have that same profile in their family tree and have merged with that profile.

It seems that there are those who believe that they and they alone are the only descendant of a blood line, they are not. The only way that can happen is if you are from a long, long long line of families that had only, one child. And they married into families that only had a long family line of only children.
For the rest of us, our blood lines are large, varied and have more family members then we will ever meet. Hence, this very large World Tree that we are all part of includes a great many of us that are also part of the Cottingham - Dixon- Berkeley blood lines.
I don't own that tree, you don't own that tree nor does Ms. Cottingham own that tree, and I am sorry that she feels that this is an evil site, with evil people out to get her. We are not.
She does need to understand, that when profiles are merged and are part of other trees, deleting is not an option once those profiles are part of the larger world tree. She can delete herself, her children, grandchildren, her parents and up to 3rd grandparents, but once you are in the world tree, it creates havoc for all those who are her or her husbands cousins.
I do hope that those on here with a calmer head can deal with this problem and these profiles before Ms. Cottingham, deletes profiles she no longer has a right to delete. The Cottingham line is my direct blood line, and I don't need an angry person messing up what so many have worked so hard to document. For me, that meant going to England to track my blood line.
This is all I am going to say in this matter as I am fed up with all of this. I am sadden that my name was dragged though the mud over this matter.

6/8/2012 at 1:17 PM

Hannah Cottingham is Katherine Dixon (Berkeley)'s 11th great granddaughter.

Hannah is not a manager of this profile.

The most recent public profile between Hannah and this 11th gg is

James Cottingham, Sr.

Neither Hannah nor Terri is a manager of that profile. You cannot delete it - it does not belong to you.

Everything below it (more recent) is a private profile that neither Terri nor anyone else who is not in your family group can view, much less merge into without explicit permission.

Again, I believe this is about your tree view settings. If you don't wish to see what you don't view as accurate - document your case and ask for a specific profile fix - and / or - don't look at it.

<private> Cottingham
6/8/2012 at 1:23 PM

1. I know I have a large family, which is why I joined this site to show my family our bloodline.
2. I only offered the link because that was the first Berkley I saw and since she asked ME for a link I gave it to her to research and find any information she wanted, after all you keep saying people should share and well I did.
3. I ONLY deleted profiles to which I, myself created and I myself did the work, and so I myself have every right to delete.
4. If you have information on those people it is easy as can be for you to create the profiles yourself but the work I did I no longer wish to let others use which is my right as researcher.
5. Your name is no longer linked to this, I deleted the comment so now you can move on and focus on your research.
6. If I created the profiles I DO have every right to delete and/or alter it.
7. It is other researchers responsibility to do their own work and verify others work.
8.This matter is closed, end of discussion! I am leaving this grade school drama by the close of the hour and taking the information I myself have put on this website with me. If you want the information, do like genealogists are meant to and you yourself say you do, and do the research yourself.
9. I am deeply saddened you could not accept an apology and move on but our Cottingham blood (especially the older blood) is prone to vanity as well so no hard feelings.

<private> Cottingham
6/8/2012 at 1:25 PM

Actually the tree I had originally created spanned all the way back to George Cottingham but since the collaboration things have been merged without my knowledge or consent by countless people. Hence my desire to leave and take my information with me.

6/8/2012 at 1:27 PM

Hannah this is not true. You just deleted a profile you are not the sole manager of. That is a violation of Geni Terms of service.

If you do not wish your name on the profiles use "relinquish management."

I am saddened you did not give me an opportunity to correct tree errors - if any.

6/8/2012 at 1:33 PM

You deleted a profile with 6 managers added to the tree by someone else and born in 1615! This is genealogy??

<private> Cottingham
6/8/2012 at 1:41 PM

No, I deleted George Cottingham born 1615, the one I created, I did not allow others to become managers on that profile and no list of other managers were displayed when I viewed the profile so that does not make sense.

<private> Cottingham
6/8/2012 at 1:44 PM

I added George back in 2008 or 2009 and if it got merged I am sorry (I did not allow for any merging to occur). It was an accident but since I didn't see any other names on the profile AND geni allowed people to merge without consent it was bound to happen sooner or later and it probably already has many times over.

<private> Cottingham
6/8/2012 at 1:54 PM

Also, if there other people (6 is a good sized number) then they can put the information back how they like it, 1 single person can't have ALL the information on a person. So they can put their research to good use and travel to his old east coast home as I did.

6/8/2012 at 2:03 PM

And you have deleted profiles where you are not the added by or a manager of. I am with great pain putting them back.

Private User
6/8/2012 at 2:21 PM

Geni Terms Of Service: " If, however, you invite other Members to share your family tree on the Service, or agree to merge your family tree with another Member's family tree on the Service (in either case, a "Shared Family Tree"), then you agree that you will not delete Content in the Shared Family Tree except to correct inaccurate or offensive data. Willful destruction of Content in a Shared Family Tree without Geni's written permission is a breach of this Agreement and grounds for termination of your Member account."

6/8/2012 at 2:45 PM

You are the one engaging in grade school behavior Hannah. You seem to not understand the Geni tool and to have jumped to conclusions and slandered Terri. My read is that you owe her an apology.

Also I believe you are doing yourself and your family members a disservice deleting your branch of the tree. People who are far more experienced family history researchers than you appreciate the value of Geni. You need to have asked questions and sought help and been patient instead of accusing and blaming. My opinion and view which you are welcome to ignore. Good luck in wherever go and whatever you do. Do not delete however delete any profile that is co-managed as that is vandalism and against the terms of service of Geni.

Private User
6/8/2012 at 3:07 PM

As far as I can observe Hannah have closed her account and most of the historical profiles managed by others she deleted are restored. Case closed.

6/8/2012 at 3:17 PM


Private User
6/8/2012 at 3:25 PM

"CASE CLOSED"....Yes Sir, Thank You Sir!! ........ttfn

<private> Baldwin
6/8/2012 at 4:46 PM

My thanks also.

6/8/2012 at 4:47 PM

I ran into a problem that I hope one of you wizard curators can fix. See:

[Margaret Bird Rayburn]

She has two completely different sets of parents (similar names and dates, but not duplicates). The correct set is William Cristal (of Virginia) and Ann Cristal (Unknown). The bad set is William Christie (of NJ) and Ann Christie (Carithers). Two children, Jean Christie and Margarietje William Christie, should stay with William and Ann Christie.

I tried to remove the extra set (using Geni Public Access), but Geni refused and gave me a message saying that it would split the tree, which is EXACTLY what I wanted to do.

Also, it would be great if you could make the following profiles in this family public because there are lots of duplicates (and some tricky relationships):

* A. Cristal, wife of William Cristal of Virginia and dupe of Ann Cristal

* H. Rayburn (dupe of Henry Rayburn II) and his wife E. Rayburn, dupe of Henry II's wife Elizabeth Rayburn

* T. Rayburn and R. Rayburn, children of H. Rayburn and E. Rayburn

* P. Love and I. Love and their children M. Love and C. Love,

* The children of Robert K. Barnett [Robert B. or K. Barnett, Sr.] and his wife Elizabeth Barnett (Rayburn) and their spouses

I'd give you the profile numbers for these folks, but I can't see them because they're private. I also can't ask their managers to make the profiles public because I can't see them either (not that that does much good -- most people don't respond). I don't know why Geni doesn't just make all profiles for people born 125 years ago or older public. It should be pretty simple to do.



Private User
6/8/2012 at 5:58 PM

Marilyn -

I did a little cleanup in this area. i think the wives are correctly linked. The problem with the private profiles is that geni users are descendants are these profiles are in their claimed family.

It just has to be this way.


6/10/2012 at 7:11 AM

Would someone please check the status of Private User Many errors in profiles, wrong sex, living status etc. Last activity shown Aug 5, 2011 at 11:41 AM. I have sent her messages.

Private User
6/10/2012 at 7:17 AM

She's been reported Eldon.

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