you probably do NOT mean this person: Theodor Friedrich Kramer, right?
So do you have the profile you're looking for in your tree? You'll get much better results if you "tag" the relevant profiles. If you do, this discussion will be visible from the profile itself, and will give people more information and context about them.
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No Shmuel-Aharon, Pat is from Australia, her husband is a Kramer from the Netherlands, and they are looking for ancestors from: Theodor Friedrich Julius Caesar Kramer
also a profile out of my genealogy database and my family
Fred is perfectly correct, Theodor Friedrich Julius Caesar Kramer is the oldest Kramer I have found. The maternal side of the tree is complete to 12 generations of ancestors. The paternal side of Kramer is the one I am having difficulty with. Any assistance to locate the ancestors of Theodor Friedrich Julis Caesar (born before 1796) would be greatly appreciated.