I am seriously considering leaving Geni. Since I gave up using Geni Pro, I can no longer view relationships between myself, as well as between other people who I have myself, added to the tree. This seems to me to be most unfair. I'd be very interested in hearing what the Geni Admin & other uses think of this state of affairs? There must be a lot of people in the same boat as me? Lynne.
Unfortunately it seems that this is a Pro feature.
You may also be interested in this which appeared in the forum when it existed:
I think there was discussion about this in the forum as well but I couldn't find it ifor you. Although I am Pro I remember thinking this was a low blow.
You could try suggesting in the helpdesk area that it be made non-pro I'm sure you'd get people to support it.
As long as the Pro-feature set is not expanded upon, current state of affairs is likely to prevail. Shifting the possibility to calculate relationship paths to non-Pro would make me downgrade in a heartbeat since the remaining features just do not reach the same amount of added value on my Geni scale of well-being. I'm guessing that I'm not alone in this opinion.
Personally I think this would be a solid way to go:
• Simple Relationship Paths: available to every member, the current Pro feature steps down.
• Bloodline Relationship Paths: exclusive to Pro members, a new Pro feature is born.
• Extensive Relationship Paths: exclusive to Premium members, a whole new level of goodness.
By 'Extensive Relationship Paths', I mean automatically and fully calculated simple or bloodline paths between whatever two connected nodes—no more of the "No path found to X"—if there clearly is a connection; just show me the money already! Current Pro members can still not automatically calculate a path to every node they are connected to, deep manual digging is often required. A shame really, since this actually renders the Pro account into a limping state.
So, a possibility to calculate bloodlines would perhaps make a couple of non-Pro members consider an upgrade—and those wanting "the full experience" might even consider a slightly adjusted pricing point, up to some form of 'Premium'.
However, the bloodline algorithm and infrastructure requirements have seemingly had the Geni guys beat for a couple of years now. Look! - a Challenge! :)
All the best to everyone!
The "best" known algorithm for finding the path between two nodes in any graph is Dijkstra's: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dijkstra%27s_algorithm.
It runs in O(E + V log V) time, where E is number of edges and V is number of nodes. On a 50-million-node tree, the number inside the O() is around 900 million; that means a "guaranteed success" algorithm might have to perform 900 million operations (of what cost I don't know).
The algorithm Geni's currently running is clearly a LOT faster, and probably takes advantage of the shape of the tree, but doesn't always succeed.
I don't think we can expect a guaranteed-to-succeed path search at a reasonable cost any time soon.
Thanks, guys. I have complained to Geni. I wouldn't mind if I couldn't see relationship paths on profiles I'm not managing, and more importantly those I have added.....the latter really gets my goat. I think that it's very unfair that we can't all freely view the paths for profiles we have added ourselves....I feel as though I'm being ripped off here. In fact, I KNOW that I'm being ripped off!!
Myrna, hopefully Geni will do something about this in the very near future, and then I shall stay for sure. :)