Started by Sharon Doubell on Saturday, April 9, 2011


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4/9/2011 at 4:24 AM

Ek is besig om die voorbereiding te doen om my 75yr oue vader op 'n pad-trip te neem in 2 weke se tyd na al die oorspronklike boerdery plotte van sy Franse Hugenote, Nederlands, Duits en Britse voorvaders (wat aangekom met die skepe in SA uit vanaf die 1600's) te besoek.

Daarom het ek navorsing doen wat dop die erwe op die verbleikte dokumente wat die oorspronklike plase - om te sien wat hulle vandag is (Baie van hulle is nou wêreld beroemde wynplase!) Sommige goeie mense stories kom saam - wat ook besin oor die politiek van die land oor die eeue, en daarom het ek gedink oor doen 'n reis blog vir ons Suid-Afrikaanse Cuzzin medewerker groep wat sal gedeel voorouers het.

Enigeen wat belangstel kan kyk op die TRAVEL SA bande tussen mense en plekke wat ek begin bou (onder)
ASSEBLIEF, voeg ook jou eie navorsing, en stuur my jou gedagtes en idees vir 'n ‘REIS SA MET Geni' BLOG.

Liefde, Cuzzin Sharon (scroll down)


•Thomas Hartley - 1820 settler who built the Pig 'n Whistle Hotel
•Samuel Bradshaw - 1820 settler who built Bradshaw's Mill & the Wesleyan Chapel


•Jacques de Villiers Huguenot owner of La Bri wine farm, farmed with his brothers on Bosch en Dal
•Jacques Malan Huguenot owner of de Hoop - now called Simonsig - wine farm


•Jacques Theron Huguenot farmer, with Jean Imbert, of Montpellier , & owner of Le Rhone farm.

4/10/2011 at 4:04 PM

I'm related by the Ferriera -[ not sure of the spelling] family down to Gillson.
I live in Australia. And would love to read what you discover on this trip around S Africa. I can only speak and write English.
Enjoy you trip and I wish you both safe travel.
God Bless
Lorelei Goodall [Nicholson] my mother was a Gillson.

4/11/2011 at 1:40 AM

If we were to go on such a 'mission' we would search for the farms owned by Pierre Theron which were le Rhone which he inherited from his mother, De Kleine Bergrivier in Roodesandskloof, De Keur and de Leeuw Kuil in the Koue Bokkeveld. Enjoy Sharon and be sure to tell it all!
Joan Augustyn -wife of Hendrik Erasmus Theron Augustyn

4/11/2011 at 3:24 AM

Thanks for the support, Lorelei & Joan. I'm working hard and sending emails to whoever I think might be the present owners of the old farms, seeking confirmation from them of what they know. You can help by sending me any leads you find on the net that you think I should follow up.
I don't know the Fereiras, Lorelei, but I do know the Therons, Joan - so can start there.
I'll keep you all posted!

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4/12/2011 at 1:15 PM

Hi. I am in possession of one of the early "Atlases" which clearly gives all the Settler settlements on their arrival in South Africa. This includes the Huguenots as well as the 1820 Settlers. The Huguenot Settlements are illustrated by farm name and name of original farmer (W.Cape) while the illustrations for the 1820 Settlers are shown by "party settlement" areas (E. Cape).
Don't know if this will be of any help to you?

4/14/2011 at 1:02 PM

Wow! Caroline, it would be - is there a way I could see it?
(Sorry for my delayed response - somehow this didn't pop up in my Discussions update.)

4/14/2011 at 10:02 PM

This is a valuable document and a project to scan and upload it to geni would be appreciated

4/15/2011 at 12:10 AM

Willem, you are right - I will contact Caroline by message too, in case my delayed response means she hasn't seen it.

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4/16/2011 at 2:15 PM

The Atlases are quite large (approx 2 x A4 size) but I will do my best to get them scanned and placed on Geni. Our family have three copies of these rather valuable atlases. .... I live in Tzaneen, Limpopo Province (not sure what this means in terms of you being able to see them????)

4/17/2011 at 4:12 AM

Hmm. Wish I was more techie. I'm in Jhb, and it sounds like a lot of work for you to scan them. (I will check with the teenage techie dept in my household for easier electronic options.)

Where did you get the from? Perhaps we can order more or there are already scanned copies we can access or buy? (hoping for miracles! I know). I'm going down to the Huguenot Society in Franschoek later this week - do you think they might have access to copies?

This is very valuable info though, Caroline - it is fantastic to even know it exists. Thank you.

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4/17/2011 at 7:28 AM

Hi again ... The Atlases belong to my brother - the last Pienaar descendant in our Pienaar line. They have a collection of about 6(!!!) but of the particular Huguenot and 1820 Settlers, three copies of the same Atlas. The Atlases are printed, hand-drawn maps of the various boundaries that occurred during history of what is now RSA. (Forgive my vagueness, I am not a genealogist OR Historian - just someone interested in my fore-fathers!). I have been in touch with my brother for the exact details of them and will update this post once he's given me the info. I doubt however, that there are others that are accessable. These are evidently collector pieces (?). What this means then, is that I will HAVE to make a plan to get them scanned so that everyone who is of Huguenot or 1820 Settler descent, can have access ....

4/17/2011 at 7:38 AM

Wow, they sound like they're really worth getting copied!. I'm thinking on my feet here - but maybe there is some way we can help in the copying? The Huguenot society might have funding. (I'm just presuming it will be difficult to scan / photocopy them in Tzaneen - maybe I'm wrong?) If this is so - perhaps you would trust to post one to me in Jhb - where uploading them might be easier to make happen - after which I would send it back? As I said - thinking on my feet in case the ideas are stupid :-)

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4/17/2011 at 10:27 AM

OK have the info ...
"Historiese Atlas van Suid Afrika"
Eric Stockenstrom
Published by Pro Ecclesia
Hope this helps and that you can somehow access the maps . I'll only have the time to do some constructive work on scanning etc late April .... (sorry!) but this is only a hobby and I can only do this when time allows etc etc. I actually don't know if they ARE worth anything - we've only been told they are....

4/17/2011 at 12:05 PM

Thanks, Caroline - I'll do some work trying to track them down. Be careful of this hobby - Geni turns it into an adiction ;->

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