Was Samuel Hatch married to Mary Bryant Churchill?

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I believe that Samuel Hatch was not married to Mary Bryant Churchill and that profiles that show Samuel Hatch and Mary Bryant Churchill as parents should be corrected to show Samuel Hatch and Mary Doty Hatch as their parents.

Mary Bryant Churchill's dates of birth and death are similar to those for Mary Doty Hatch 1654-1715.

None of the published genealogies that I could locate show that Mary Bryant Churchill ever married Samuel Hatch. For example, see:
New England Marriages Prior to 1700 by Clarence Almon Torrey, Elizabeth Petty Bentley (Genealogical Publishing Co. Baltimore 1985)
Boutelle, John A., Stephen Bryant and His Descendants , (NEHGR, Vol 24 pages 315-325 (Oct 1870)
http://trees.wmgs.org/getperson.php?personID=I11086&tree=Schirado
http://www.werelate.org/wiki/Person:Mary_Bryant_(14)
http://www.maineancestry.com/family%20tree/FTMOUT/d0004/g0000029.html
http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/s/p/o/Russell-E-Spooner/...
http://www.whosyerdad-e.com/families-m/family.php?famid=F14166&...
http://awt.ancestrylibrary.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=flakey...

The genealogies for Mary Bryant Churchill almost always show that she married Eleazer Churchill and had four children, Abigail, Eleazer, Jedidah and Mary between 1680 and 1689.
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~dantrogers/pafg36...
http://aleph0.clarku.edu/~djoyce/gen/report/rr06/rr06_491.htm#P2158
http://www.gibnet.us/ancestry/pafg37.htm#945
http://capecodhistory.us/genealogy/wellfleet/i1293.htm
http://ralphinla.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hatchj.htm#i1098
http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/e/n/f/Jerry-A-Enfield-Ri...

The Scituate, Massachusetts birth records can be found at http://aleph0.clarku.edu/~djoyce/gen/scituate/partI2.html
They all show Samuel Hatch as the father, but none of them lists a mother. The dates, 1678-1695 would be entirely inconsistent with Mary Bryant Churchill's reasonably well documented marriage to Eleazer Churchill.

While I think the evidence is strong for removing the relationship between Samuel Hatch and Mary Bryant Churchill, I do note two sources, which I believe do not support the proposition that Mary Bryant Churchill was the same person as Mary Doty Hatch:

http://speot.com/pafg212.htm reports that Eliezer Churchill married Mary Bryant in 1676, and then married Mary Doty 8 February 1685, and cites ""U.S. and International Marriage Records, 1560-1900- ancestry.com
The Churchill Family in America, compiled by Gardner Asaph Churchilland Nathaniel Wiley Churchill." It claims further that Elizer Churchill and Mary Doty Churchill had four children from 1691-1698, dates which are completely inconsistent with the dates and longstanding Doty genealogies for Mary Doty Hatch, as I noted above. In any event, that web page does not claim any marriage between Mary Bryant and Samuel Hatch.

http://www.cyberancestors.com/cummins/ps83/ps83_367.htm has an interesting note that is not attributed to a source:
"ELIEZUR, Plymouth, s. of John of the same, m. 8 Feb. 1688, Mary Dotey, wid. I presume, of some gr.s. of the first Edward, and had four or five ch. but by a former w. also Mary, had Hannah, b. 23 Aug. 1676; Joanna, 25 Nov. 1678; and sev. of the foll. tho. as date of only one is kn. to me, I must not disting. which mo. bore ea. Abigail; Eleazer; Stephen, Feb. 1685; Jedediah; Mary; Elkanah; Nathaniel; Josiah; and Jonathan. His w. d. 11 Dec. 1715; and he d. 5 Mar. foll." Again, this unsourced note is not consistent with the Scituate birth records for the children of Samuel Hatch.

Therefore, I recommend that the profiles that show Samuel Hatch and Mary Bryant Churchill as parents should be corrected to show Samuel Hatch and Mary Doty Hatch as their parents. This would be consistent with the long-published Doty family genealogies.

Do others agree? Are there any sources to support a marriage between Samuel Hatch and Mary Bryant Churchill?

Mary Churchill is my 9th great aunt. I just made myself "curator" of that profile and will follow through on the Bryant side. It's a direct line for me so I am interested in as accurate a genealogy as possible.

Your sources are good. Would it be possible for you add them into the profiles in question? The way I generally do that is by a "links" section (for webpages) and a "sources" section (for secondary sources from books, compilations of birth records, NEGHS studies, etc.)

I also try and upload as documents - and then "sources / facts" from pages that seem well documented and where the primary document may not be available.

Then I make a "notes" section with the case for a decision in the tree where there is ambiguity. If there is a major and common error being corrected (i.e., "it is legend that her name was Catherine Howard ...") I can make a "curator" note above the master profile.

I will hold off on action until we hear from more descendants, and just let me know how I can help on the profile documentation efforts.

I've sourced out the profiles for:

Mary Churchill and **her one and only husband** Eleazer Churchill

n.b. to quote one of your links: Eleazer was NEVER married to Mary Doty. This is an error perpetuated by copycat researchers. (lineagekeeper)

I have "cut the connection" between Mary Bryant and Samuel Hatch but someone else should really source the Hatch profile / Doty profile.

I've sourced out the profiles for:

Mary Churchill and **her one and only husband** Eleazer Churchill

n.b. to quote one of your links: Eleazer was NEVER married to Mary Doty. This is an error perpetuated by copycat researchers. (lineagekeeper)

I have "cut the connection" between Mary Bryant and Samuel Hatch but someone else should really source the Hatch profile / Doty profile.

I ran across this little section of the tree today and Mary Bryant was married to Samuel Hatch again with all of the kids, etc. I fixed what I could according to this discussion and what you had locked on the profiles, but I've run out of time tonight and it may need a little more cleaning up!
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I see what’s going on and glad we slowed down to look at this.

Wikitree is claiming that Eleazer Churchill (1652-1716) married 1) Mary Bryant (1654-1715) daughter of Stephen Bryant & Abigail Shaw.

And also saying

his First wife may have died, and on February 8, 1688, he may have married Mary, daughter of Edward and Faith (Clarke) Doty[2] [4], and their children (the other sources give the same children to one wife, Mary Bryant above).

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Churchill-297

This Mary Hatch

Which doesn’t make a great deal of sense when her husband Samuel Hatch died 1735.

So - whoa. Sources? The links above should help.

Disputed Marriage

https://archive.org/details/churchillfamilyi01chur/page/6/mode/2up Claims:

ELIEZER - CHURCHILL (John '). Bora in Plymouth, April 20, 1652. Admitted freeman at Plymouth, 1683. He lived at Hobshole, upon a part of the original estate of his father, having come into possession of the first house built by him.

Eliezer Churchill married 1st, Mary -; 2d, Feb. 8, 1688, Mary
Doty, daughter of Edward and Faith (C'larke) Doty. She died Dec. 11, 1715, aged 60 years.

Doty family does not accept this Mary Doty as the daughter of Edward and Faith Doty. Eleazer did mary a Mary Doty (??) - they do not accept Mary Doty as Edward and Faith's daughter because the marriage certificate information does not have her birth date on it even though it had Eleazer's So until the question of who Mary actually is, this remains in question and unanswered.

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