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Alice Roberts (Naylor)

Also Known As: "Alice Nayler", "Isabelle Naylor"
Birthdate: (35)
Birthplace: Glassenbury, Kent, England
Death: 1497 (35)
Glassenbury, Cranbrook, Kent, England
Place of Burial: Cranbrook, Kent, England
Immediate Family:

Daughter of Richard Naylor, Jr., Esq. and Elizabeth Neville, Dame Abergavenny
Wife of Walter Roberts, Esq., of Glassenbury
Mother of Ann Roberts; Clement Roberts; Dorothy Roberts; William Roberts; Elizabeth Roberts and 3 others
Sister of Joan Culpeper; Robert Naylor, Sr.; John Naylor; Thomasine Naylor; Hugh Naylor and 1 other

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About Alice Roberts

Alice was the daughter of Richard Naylor and Elizabeth (unknown).

Alice Naylor was not a Baroness. Her mother Elizabeth became a Baroness when she married George Neville, 4th Baron Bergavenny. (Burke's A Genealogical and Heraldic History of the Extinct and Dormant Baronetcies... gets this one wrong, sorry to say.)

(Elizabeth married four times: first to Richard Naylor, then Sir Robert Bassett, then John Stokker, and lastly George Neville.)

http://www-personal.umich.edu/~bobwolfe/gen/person/g23500.htm

http://www-personal.umich.edu/~bobwolfe/gen/pn/p23383.htm

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Walter Roberts formed some surprisingly high social connections through his third wife, Alice Nayler. This woman, in the 1619 Visitation of Kent, is erroneously called “Alice Naylor widow of the baron of Abergavenny,” and this has led to much confusion. Burke’s Extinct Baronetcies, 1838 ed., attempts to identify her as “Alice, daughter of Richard Naylor, esq. and widow of Lord Abergavenny,” but the widow of George Nevill, 4th Lord Bergavenny (d. 1492) was named Elizabeth, and at this late date the names Alice and Elizabeth were really not interchangeable, a discrepancy pointed out by Leadam in his reply to Gairdner’s article cited above, p. 168 (though he misattributes the statement to Hasted, and confuses the chronology). Nevertheless, Vicary Gibbs, in a signed note in the Complete Peerage, 2nd ed., 1:31 n. (c), suggests that she was identical with Elizabeth (____) (Naylor) (Bassett) (Stokker) Nevill, widow, successively, of Richard Naylor, of London (will proved 1483), of Sir Robert Bassett, Lord Mayor of London in 1475-6 (d. 1484), of John Stokker, of St. George’s, Eastcheap (d. 1485), and of George Nevill, 4th Lord Bergavenny (d. 1492), whose second wife she had been. (The revisions to this article given in the volume of Addenda & Corrigenda published in 1998 correct the order of her marriages but do not directly address the question of whether Elizabeth could have had Walter Roberts as a fifth husband. In the 1st ed. of the Complete Peerage, 1:12-27, at p. 18, the names of her husbands were given in the order stated in her will, discussed below, which is incorrect.)

   However, in her will, P.C.C. 8 Moone (modern reference P.R.O. Prob. 11/12), abstracted in Testamenta Vetusta 1:441, which was made 14 April 1500 and proved scarcely two months later on 19 June following, the dowager baroness Abergavenny styles herself “Dame Elizabeth Nevile Lady of Bergavenne of the parishe of Chartham in the countie of Kent widowe,” an impossible designation and unlikely place of residence if she were then married to the still-living Walter Roberts. She does however name her children — all by her second husband, Richard Nayler — as “John Naylor, my son…, Hugh Naylor and Robert Naylor, brothers to the said John, and … Thomazine, Alice, and Joan, sisters to the said Hugh and Robert.” Thus, it is clear that the correct identification of Walter Roberts’s third wife is actually “Alice Nayler daughter of the Lady Burgaueny,” as stated in the Kent visitation of 1574. Her father, then, was Richard Nayler, Alderman and Tailor of London, whose will, dated 18 July 1483 and proved 22 Aug. following (P.C.C. 7 Logge, modern reference P.R.O. Prob. 11/7), makes a bequest “to Alice my doughter when she is married.” As the same phraseology is used for all three daughters it presumably does not imply an impending marriage; and indeed the children may all have been fairly young as none of his five sons had yet “come to lawfull age” and his wife had a “child in the womb.” Interestingly, the name of her father is given correctly in various old accounts, for example Jasper Sprange, The Tunbridge Wells Guide (Tunbridge Wells, 1782), p. 20. The Kent visitations of 1574 and 1619-21, and the Sussex visitation of 1530, all make Alice mother of some of her husband’s children.

The Exherst Family: http://library.uwinnipeg.ca/people/dobson/genealogy/ff/Exherst.cfm

From the Genealogy Page of John Blythe Dobson; Last revised 15 December 2011

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Alice Roberts's Timeline

1462
1462
Glassenbury, Kent, England
1484
1484
Age 22
Abt. 1484
1486
1486
Age 24
Abt. 1486
1488
1488
Age 26
Abt. 1488
1490
1490
Age 28
Abt. 1490
1492
March 13, 1492
Age 30
Cranbrook, Kent, England
1494
July 10, 1494
Age 32
Glassenbury, Cranbrook, Kent, England
1496
1496
Age 34
Glassenbury, Kent, England
1497
1497
Age 35
Cranbrook, Kent, England