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Anna Maria Altmann / Detar (Joghs)

Also Known As: ""Marryanne""
Birthdate:
Birthplace: Paris, Paris, Île-de-France, France
Death: Died in Hempfield, Westmoreland, Pennsylvania, USA
Immediate Family:

Wife of Johann Anthony Altman; David Jacob Tetoit (Detar); Jacob David Detar and Johann Anthony Altman
Mother of John P. Altman, Revolutionary war; Anna Marie Rabe; Barbara Herrold; John George Altman; Jacob Detar and 7 others

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About Anna Maria Altmann / Detar

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=96818350

The Story of Anna Maria Jacques aka Marianne Joghs-a Huguenot. http://www.100megsfree2.com/jjscherr/jacques/AnnaMarieJacques.htm

She was a Lady-in-Waiting in Louis' court. The story goes that she had a gold lace petticoat which she sold to pay for her husband and son to go to America in 1751-1753. She ran away from her family and wed Jacob De Tar (they changed their names often: to De Tarre, DeToit, Tetoit. Sometimes he went by David (their son Jacob De Tar born ca. 1743). Marianne (born ca. 1721-died 1806) wed Anthony Altman after Jacob's death in the French and Indian war. Jacob was a worked in the Tower (hence the name De La Tour). It has been passed down the the JOGHS family crest was a Crowing Cock, with the legend "Dum Vivo Gloriar" ("While I live, I will crow." http://www.ourfamtree.org/browse.php/Johann-Anton-Anthony-Altmann/f257009

Birth 1729 Location France, Île-de-France, Paris Death Feb 1806

	

PA, Westmoreland Co, Hempfield Township Grave

	

PA, Westmoreland Co, Hempfield Township Aged: 77.1 years Was born of a noble family and was a cousin to the king. King Louis X IV ruled France from 1638-1715 and King Louis XV ruled from 1710-1774. Family crest is a crowing cock with the legend, "While I Live I Will Crow". The name Joghs is a French-Swiss variant of Jacques or Jacobs.

Because they were Huguenot Protestants in a Roman Catholic country, her family was being persecuted. Anna Marie fled from France with the help of a peasant worker whom she married, David DeTar (David Detoit or David Detarre), a french Huguenot. Is said to have married contrary to the wishes of her family and was disinherited . Came to this country about 1750. David DeTar was killed in the Spring of 1754 by the Indians in the French & Indian War, leaving her a widow with 2 children. She then married Anthony Altman. They settled in Weissenberg Township, Northampton County, Pennsylvania. Jacob's estate was turned over to his widow on 19 June 1754, and at that time she signed the papers as "Marianne Joghs De Tar. She and Jacob had the one son Jacob and a daughter, Catherine. As Mrs. Anthony Altman, she had 3 more children.

Any one with more information on this line of Jacques, please let me know.

j.scherr@worldnet.att.net

Marianne Joghs [in 1754 she signed her name as Marianne Joghs Tetoit]was born of a Noble family and was Cousin to the King of France. History shows that Louis XIV ruled France from 1638-1715 and King Louis XV ruled from 1710-1774. She supposedly served as a Lady in Waiting to the French Royal Family. Her Family Crest was a crowing cock with the legend, "While I Live I Will Crow". The symbol of a crowing cock was sewn into linens and undergarments Marianne brought to WSTD Co., PA along with a footstool with a hidden compartment which always held her Bible.

The name Joghs, which Marianne used in her 1754 signatures,is a French-Swiss variant of Jacques or Jacobs. This family has frequently used the 'crowing cock' as their emblem.

Because they were Huguenot Protestants in a Roman Catholic country, her family suffered persecution. Marianne fled from France with the help of a man 'of the land' [de la Tour]who owned property close to her family's country estate - possibly across the river in more Germanic territory. She married this man whom we know as David De Tar (David Detoit, David de la Tour or David Detarre), also a Huguenot. It is said that she married contrary to the wishes of her family and was disinherited.

Marianne, David and their two children, Jacob & Catherine deTar, came to this country about 1750. David DeTar brought on the journey across the ocean, four black horses, among their household possessions. He was conscripted into military service along with his prize equines within a few years after arriving in the New World.

Passage from Europe to America was funded, in part, by Marianne selling her fine clothes from the "Lady" days. Including her gold lace petti-coats.

David DeTar was killed in the Spring of 1754 by the Indians, leaving her a widow with their two children, Jacob and Catherine DeTar.

Marianne collected 50# from her husband's estate, an uncommon occurance for the era. She remarried on October 1, 1755, to Johan Anton "Anthony" Altman who arrived in Philadelphia on 15 Sep 1749 aboard the ship 'Phoenix' with many family and neighbors from Herbitzheim, Alsace, Bas-Rhin, France. Also aboard this ship were the Keppel/Koppel family and two gents, Herman & Jacob Latur. This hints that it is possible Marianne knew Anton Altman prior to arriving in America.

Marianne & Anton and many others of this group, removed to western PA and settled in the Greensburg, WSTD Co. area, where they made their marks and populated the wilds of PA with their descendants.

How many thousands of us descend from her?

As long as we live, we will crow and her sacrifices will be rewarded in memories. Jeanie Brown

http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/JOGHS/1999-03/0920577082



            
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Anna Maria Altmann / Detar's Timeline

1729
1729
Paris, Paris, Île-de-France, France
1741
1741
Age 12
France
1743
1743
Age 14
Alsace-Lorraine, France
1755
1755
Age 26
Lower Macungie, Lehigh, Pennsylvania, USA
1756
February 4, 1756
Age 27
Maxatawny, Berks, Pennsylvania, USA
1763
December 28, 1763
Age 34
Maxatawny, Berks, Pennsylvania, USA
1766
April 24, 1766
Age 37
Weissenburg, Northampton, Pennsylvania
1766
Age 37
1766
Age 37