Agnes Lymer

• Our New England ancestors and their descendants, 1620-1900: historical ... By Henry Whittemore
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  • Spencer and Allied Families
• Pg. 49-84
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• Pg. 53
• Prof. Ray T. Spencer while making researches in his own line, discovered among the church records of St. George's Parish, Stotfold, Bedfordshire, England. much interesting data, concerning the line of Gerrard Spencer, the father of William, Thomas, Michael and Gerrard the emigrants, from which it appears that the above named Gerrard was the son of Michael who also had a brother Gerrard, and they were the sons of John. Thus three generations preceding the emigrants are definitely established. The church records of St. George's Parish, above referred to, show that "June 9, 1558, John Spencer, Sen., was buried."
• There is evidence to show that this John was the father of Michael and of the first Gerrard mentioned.
  • FROM NOTES OF GEO. T. SPENCER.
• The ancestry of Gerard Spencer and his brothers William, Thomas and Michael Spencer, appears from the parish registers of Edworth and Stotfield in Bedfordshire, Eng., and other contemporaneous documents.
• Jan. 25, 1555, Michael Spencer and Annis Liuur were married (the last name of Annis is so poorly written in the record that is cannot be definitely determined.)
• April 20, 1557, John, son of Michael Spencer baptized.
• May 27, 1558, was baptized Michael, son of Michael Spencer.
• April 15, 1560, buried Michael, son of Michael Spencer.
• 23 Feb. 1561, Annis, the wife of Michael Spencer, was buried.
• 20 Aug., 1564, Joan, the daughter of Michael Spencer, was baptized.
• 30 Aug., 1566, Alice, daughter of Michael Spencer, was baptized. }Twins.
• 30 Aug., 1566, Michael Spencer, was baptized,} Twins
• 24 July, 156?, Ann, daughter of Michael Spencer baptized.
• 30 July, 1568, Jarratt Spencer and Ellen Whitson were married, whose will was proved at London, 20 May, 1577; he was brother of Michael the elder.
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• Pg. 54
• 12 March, 1571, Thomas, son of Michael Spencer was baptized.
• 20 May, 1576, Gerat Spencer, son of Michael Spencer, and Elizabeth his wife, baptized.
• 9 July, 1580, Richard, son of Michael and Elizabeth Spencer, baptized.
• 18 Nov., 1599, Elizabeth, wife of Michael Spencer, was buried.
• It is quite probable that Michael Spencer of Edworth, and Gerrard Spencer of Biggleswade, were sons of John Spencer, Senior, and Ann Spencer who burials are recorded in Edworth register, the former June 9, 1558, and the later June 16, 1569: Nothing more is known of them than what is disclosed by these records .... etc.
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"The Four Spencer Brothers", 1950, compiled by Donald Lines Jacobus, "The American Genealogist. New Haven, CT: D. L. Jacobus, 1937-. (Online database. AmericanAncestors.org. New England Historic Genealogical Society, 2009 - .)" viewed by Kris Stewart, Jun 11, 2013

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Biography

Agnes Limer, Agnes (Anne) Limer (Lymer) died on 23 Feb 1561/62 in Edworth, Bedfordshire, England. She was buried on 23 Feb 1561/62 in Edworth Cem., Edworth, Bedfordshire, England. She was born in Edworth,Bedfordshire, England. Not far from the old church is a field called "Lymer Field."<ref>Entered by Michael Lechner, Feb 27, 2012</ref>

Birth

She was born in Edworth, Bedfordshire, England. Not far from the old church is a field called "Lymer Field."<ref>Descendants of Amuary RaoulD'Albetot.</ref>

Birth

: Birth: :: Date: ABT 1531

Death

She died on 23 Feb 1561/62 in Edworth, Bedfordshire, England.<ref>Descendants of Amuary Raoul D'Albetot.</ref>

Death

: Death: :: Date: 23 Feb 1561/62 :: Place: Edworth, Bedfordshire

Buried

She was buried on 23 Feb 1561/62 in Edworth Cem., Edworth, Bedfordshire, England.<ref>Descendants of Amuary Raoul D'Albetot.</ref>

Burial

: Burial: :: Date: 23 FEB 1560/61 :: Place: Edworth

Marriage

: Husband: Spencer-742|Michael Spencer
: Wife: Limer-4|Agnes Limer : Marriage: :: Date: 20 Jan 1555/56 :: Place: Edworth, Bedfordshire :: Date: 20 JAN 1554/55

Family

Spencer-2942|Michael Spencer and Limer-5|Agnes (Anne) Limer (Lymer) were married on 22 Jan 1555/56 in Edworth, Bedfordshire, England. Agnes (Anne) Limer (Lymer) died on 23 Feb 1561/62 in Edworth, Bedfordshire, England. She was buried on 23 Feb 1561/62 in Edworth Cem., Edworth, Bedfordshire, England. She was born in Edworth, Bedfordshire, England. Not far from the old church is a field called "Lymer Field."<ref>Descendants of Amuary Raoul D'Albetot, by George R. Spencer.</ref> :: Children of Michael Spencer and Agnes Lymer: :: :# Child: John Spencer :# Child: Anne Spencer

Note

Descendants of Amuary Raoul D'Albetot
58. MICHAEL SPENCER8 was born between 1530 and 1535 in Edworth, Bedfordshire, England. He died about 18 Nov 1599 in Stotfold, Bedfordshire, England. The division of Michael's children between the two wives is somewhat different from what might be inferred from the rev. Mr. Holdings's book, because of the discovery of the burial of the first wife, Agnes, early in 1562. The name of the mother is not stated in the Edworth baptisms, but Elizabeth is stated as mother of two children, Gerardand Richard, who were baptized at Stotfold. We therefore assume that Elizabeth was mother of the other children who were born after 1562 and before the birth of Gerard in 1576, though it remains possible that there was a seond, unknow, wife between Agnes and Elizabeth. The removal of the family from Edworth to Stotfold occured between 1571 and 1576. The above notes taken from: The American Genealogist, Whole Nr.105,Vol 27, Nr. 1, Jan. 1951 ***Additional Notes from Rev.John Holding*********** Michael was the oldest son of John and Anne Spencer. Mr Holding says of him: "We find Anne Spencer in her Will, conveying her interest in the lease to Michael, her eldest son, who must have remained there as long as the lease was in force, and then, if not further confirmed or continued in the tenancy, he must have removed elsewhere. The later event took place, for we find him in Stotfold in 1576, where first evidence of his appearance there is the record in the register of this parish of the baptism of Gerard Spencer, son of Michael and Elizabeth Spencer, May 20, 1576." There is an entry in the church record thaton November 5th, 1597, among those present at a church meeting, was Michael Spencer. (Stotfold is situtated but a few miles from Edworth.) The first wife of Michael Spencer was Anne Lorimer. They were married January 22nd, 1555. His second wife Elizabeth (Last name not known) Mr. Holding, on page 33, says: "While Richard and Thomas were flourishing in London, Michael and his sons who remained at Stotfold, seem to have been less prosperous, for we find Michale filing a bill in chanceryin 1581, and we find Gerard Spencer, his son, and his wife Alice, leasing their land in Stotfold to Thomas, his brother in London, in 1615,and then the next year they conveyed these lands to Thomas. This decadence in this branch of the of the family, no doubt was one great reason for William Spencer, and his brothers, Thomas, Michael and Gerard migrating to New England in 1632." Mr Holding is of the opinion that the name "Micael" was given for the reason that his parents lived in St.Albans, which is in St. Michael's parish. ***The beginning notes are from Flora Clark's manuscript, "Genealogy of the Four Spencer Brothers." MICHAEL SPENCER and Agnes (Anne) LIMER (LYMER) were married on 22 Jan 1555/56 in Edworth, Bedfordshire, England. Agnes (Anne) LIMER (LYMER) died on 23 Feb 1561/62 in Edworth, Bedfordshire, England. She was buried on 23 Feb 1561/62 in Edworth Cem., Edworth, Bedfordshire, England. She was born in Edworth, Bedfordshire, England. Not far from the old church is a field called "Lymer Field." MICHAEL SPENCER and Agnes (Anne) LIMER (LYMER) had the following children:

:+63 :i. John SPENCER.

:64:ii. Anne SPENCER was baptized on 24 Jul 1560 in Edworth, Bedfordshire, England. ::MICHAEL SPENCER and Elizabeth COLLAMORE were married about 1563 in Edworth, Bedfordshire, England. Elizabeth COLLAMORE was born about 1532 in Edworth, Bedfordshire, England. She died on 18 Nov 1599 in Stotfold,Bedfordshire, England. She was buried in Stotford Cem., Stotford, Bedfordshire, England. MICHAEL SPENCER and Elizabeth COLLAMORE had the following children: :: :65:i. Joan SPENCER was baptized on 21 Aug 1564 in Edworth, Bedfordshire,England.

:66:ii. Alice SPENCER8 was baptized on 30 Aug 1566 in Edworth, Bedfordshire, England. She died on 13 Jan 1631.

:+67 :iii. Catherine SPENCER.

:+68 :iv. Thomas SPENCER.

:+69 :v. GERARD (GARET) SPENCER.

:70:vi. Richard SPENCER8 was baptized on 9 Jul 1580 in Stotfold, Bedfordshire, England. He died abt May or June 1646 in London, England. Source: NEHGR July 1891, #45 pp: 231-232 Gentleman of London, with a codicilbearing date 29 May 1646, proved 8 June 1646. To THOMAS SPENCER, son of my brother Thomas Spencer, all my copyhold lands and tenements by me purchased of the creditors of Walter Marston, situate in Kingsbury Street near St. Albans, in the county of Hertford, in the parish of St.Michael. To DANIEL SPENCER, of London, grocer, son of my brother JohnSpencer, deceased, all those eight messuages or tenements &c. lately by me purchased of John Gearing, grocer, from and after the decease ofMargaret Greene of London, widow, situated in the parish of St. Margaret Lothbury in London. To SARAH BLAND and HANNAH BLAND, daughters of my Catherine Bland deceased, and to ELIZABETH TOMLYNS, widow, daughterof my brother Jarrard (Gerard) Spencer, deceased, my messuage or tenement situated in Grace Church Street, near the great Inn called the Crosse Keys, late in the tenure of William Toone or his assigns, to be equally divided between them, by the rents, issues and profits thereof during their normal lives. And after the decease of the said ElizabethTomlyns and Hannah then I give and devise the said messuage(house) and tenement unto the said SARAH BLAND and her heirs forever. To the said DANIEL SPENCER, all my lands and tenements in the counties of Kent and Essex, he to pay unto ANTHONY SPENCER AND JARRARD SPENCER, sons of my brother Thomas Spencer deceased, now in or near London and at the disposing of ELIZABETH CARTER, their aunt, the sum of thirty pounds yearly during their natural lives, i.e. ten pounts per annum to the said two children or thier guardians in the minorities, or the survivor of them, and ten pounds apiece to the said ANTHONY AND JARRARD, to be paid unto them and their guardians by half yearly payments as the rents of the said lands and tenements shall grow due after my decease. Item: I give and bequeath unto Jarrard Spencer, Thomas Spencer, Michaell Spencer, sons of my brother Jarrard Spencer deceased, the sum of fifty pounds apiece, and unto the children of William Spencer, son of my said brother Jarrard Spencer deceased, to be divided between them equally, the sum of fifty pounds, to be paid unto their guardians, and within two years next after my decease. To Thomas Martyn and Mary his wife, now dwelling with me, the remaining terms to come in my dwelling house and the hangings and pictures in the two rooms thereof, with all partitions in the upper rooms of it or elsewhere. To Edward Terry vintner (wine maker or seller), my kinsman, one hundred and thirty pounds which he oweth me by bond. And I bequeth unto him and Elizabeth his wife, mysisters daughter, thirty pounds, within three years &c. The rest to Daniel Spencer whom I make and ordain sole executor. Witness: John Norburie, William Norburie Twisse, 79 Source: NEHGR July 1891, #45, p: 232(In the June Term of Essex Co. Court (Salem), 1671, in a trial of thecase of John Ruck, Administrator, versus Joseph Armitage, the following paper was put in-- Boston, in New England ye 19 Jan'y 1648. Att thrity days sight of this my seacond bill of exchange (my first & third of the same tenour & date not being payed) pay unto Mr Thomas Ruck, haberdasher, att the Seauen Starres on London Bridge, or to his assignes,the some of thirty pounds stery & is part of the Legacy gyuen mee by my Unckle Richard Spencer & the payement hereof shalbee your sicharge fo soe much at day,pray you make good payements & place it to acco.: Isay pay Pounds 30. (Signed) Michaell Spenser "The dyrection is-To my louinge Couse Mr Danyell Spense Grocer in Firday Streee in London." This bill was protested by Joshua Mainett, Notary and Tabellion publick of London, who reportd that "the said Danyell Spencer answered that hee will pay noe monnneyes nor haue to doe in the sayd bill of exchange"The above case was referred to the arbitration of Capt. Roger Spenserand Christopher Lawson. I find that Michael and Jarrard Spencer were both at Lynn, for a while, and that Timothy Tomlin owned land next to the latter." Henry F. Waters. He never married. Source: The American Genealogist, Whole Nr. 105, Vol 27, Nr. 1, Jan 1951 (author unknown) His will dated 17 Mar. 1645, codicil 29 May 1646, proved 8 June 1646, calls him "gent." (Waters, Genealogical Gleanings in England, 514-515). To Thomas Spencer, so of brother Thomas Spencer, copyhold lands in St.Michael Parish near St. Albans, co. Herford. To Daniel Spencer of London, grocer, son of brother John Spencer deceased, eight messuages (dwelling house) in parish of St. Margaret Lothbury in London. To Sarah Bland and Hannah Bland, daus. of sister Katherine Bland deceased, and to Elizabeth tomlyns, widow, dau. of brother Jarrard (Gerard) Spencer deceased, a messuage in Grace Church Street, with remainder to said Sarah Bland. To said Daniel Spencer, lands in Kent and Essex, he to make certain payments to Anthony spencer and Jarrard Spencer, sons of brother Thomas Spencer deceased, now in or near London and at the disposingof Elizabeth Carter their aunt. To Jarrard Spencer, Thomas Spencer and Michaell Spencer, sons of brother Jarrard Spencer deceased, 50 pounds apiece, and another 50 pounds to the children of William Spencer, son of said brother Jarrard Spencer deceased, to be divided equally between them and to be paid to their guardians. To Thomas Martyn and Mary his wife, now dwelling with me. To Edward Terrey, vintner, my kinsman 130 pounds which he oweth me by bond, and 30 pounds to him and Elizabeth, my sister's daughter. Residue to Daniel Spencer, who is named executor. Witnesses: John Norburie, William Norburie.<ref>Descendants of Amuary Raoul D'Albetot.</ref> :: Space:New_England_Ancestors|Source List Attached

Biography

Six of nine children:

John Spencer 1557 –

Joan Spencer 1564 –

Alice Spencer 1566 –

Thomas Spencer 1571 –

Gerard Spencer 1576 – 1646

Richard Spencer 1580 –

Sources

• Attached Documents.
• Descendants of Amuary Raoul D'Albetot, George R. Spencer.Space:New_England_Ancestors|Source List Attached [http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~george/pg_02.htm]
• The Four Spencer Brothers - Their Ancestors and Descendants, Donald Lines Jacobus, M.A., The American Genealogist, 27 (April 1951) [http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Meadows/1200/genealogy/text/spen...]
• Lechner Family History, compiled by Lechner-18|Michael Lechner, with my father Ted Harrold Lechner. Space:Lechner_Family_History|Lechner Family History.

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Biography

This biography was auto-generated by a GEDCOM import.<ref>Limer-10 was created by Nichol-405 | Richard Nichol through the import of Nichol Family Tree 2_5_14.ged on Feb 5, 2014. This comment and citation can be deleted after the biography has been edited and primary sources are included.</ref> It's a rough draft and needs to be edited.

Name

: Name: Agnes /Limer/ :: Given Name: Agnes :: Surname: Limer:: Married Name: Spencer<ref>Source: #S6 Record ID Number: MH:SC426 Data: Text: Date of Import: Nov 20, 2005</ref>

Birth

: Birth: :: User ID: B6E40C9E-FB08-4280-A021-BA461B7F5B93 :: Record ID Number: MH:IF705 :: Date: 1535:: Place: Edworth, Bedfordshire, England<ref>Source: #S6 Record ID Number: MH:SC427 Data: Text: Date of Import: Nov 20, 2005</ref>

Death

: Death: :: User ID: 2663865C-3BFC-45D3-BFD1-2795AA72E226 :: Record ID Number: MH:IF706 :: Date: 23 FEB 1562:: Place: Edworth, Bedfordshire, England<ref>Source: #S6 Record ID Number: MH:SC428 Data: Text: Date of Import: Nov 20, 2005</ref>

Record ID Number

: Record ID Number: MH:I479

User ID

: User ID: 3B513567-1ADA-4F85-A946-84586CAFAB0C

UPD

: UPD 03 DEC 2013 02:30:17 GMT-5

Burial

: Burial: :: User ID: 464601C4-3DCD-4659-8AE8-B19DFAFD8BA5 :: Record ID Number: MH:IF707 :: Date: 23 FEB 1560/61:: Place: England<ref>Source: #S9 Record ID Number: MH:SC429 Page: Vol 17, Nbr 3, pgs 66-73</ref><ref>Source: #S6 Record ID Number: MH:SC430 Data: Text: Date of Import: Nov 20, 2005</ref>

Data Changed

: Data Changed: :: Date: 20 OCT 2005 Prior to import, this record was last changed 20 OCT 2005.

Marriage

: Record ID Number: MH:F188
: User ID: 7B217FB1-98EA-470F-B4F9-2F5946857AEA : Husband: : Wife: Limer-10|Agnes Spencer : Marriage: :: User ID: 6DE4BC5B-1097-4D0C-8B49-F0BD9263CF45 :: Record ID Number: MH:FF88 :: Date: 25 JAN 1554/55:: Place: Edworth, Bedfordshire, England<ref>Source: #S6 Record ID Number: MH:SC526 Data: Text: Date of Import: Nov 20, 2005</ref> Imported only 25 JAN 1554 from Marriage Date and marked as uncertain.

Sources

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• Source: S6 Record ID Number: MH:S6 User ID: 1B919187-3EB6-49C3-BF88-80E9395C0FC5 Title: Elmer Porter Ancestors Direct2.ged Repository: Call Number: Media: Other * Source: S9 Record ID Number: MH:S9 User ID: D2EF80AC-EB40-4AF2-8345-6D82E9CDEDD1 Author: Spencer Historical and Genealogical Society Title: Le DeSpencer