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Bernard de Saint Quentin (d'Herstal), Abt von St. Quentin

Also Known As: "(d'Herstal)", "Abt von St. Quentin"
Birthdate:
Birthplace: Austrasia, France, Neustria (Present Normandy), Frankish Empire (Present France)
Death: circa 784 (50-67)
Austrasia (Present Lorraine), Frankish Empire (Present France)
Immediate Family:

Son of Charles Martel and Ruodhaid
Husband of NN, Frankish woman and NN of Laon (Saxon woman)
Father of Saint Adalard of Corbie; Theodrada of St. Quentin, abbess of Herford; Walo, abbé de Bobbio; Bernhard von Franken; Gundrada and 1 other
Brother of Remigius Archbishop des Rouen and Jérôme, comte-Abbé de Saint-Quentin
Half brother of Carloman, King of the Franks; Pépin III, King of the Franks; Hiltrud d'Austrasie, Duchess of Bavaria; Landrade of Austrasia; Grifo and 1 other

Occupation: Comes et Abbas S. Quentini, Dux, Comte de Saint-Quentin, evêque de Saint-Quentin, Prins af Frankrig, Count of Saint-Quentin
Managed by: Flemming Allan Funch
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About Bernard, duc de Saint Quentin

Bernard of Heristal, son of Charles Martel of The Franks and Ruodhaid, was born 725 in Herstal, Liège, Belgium. He was comte et abbé de st-quentin and comte, abbé by profession. He got married with Unknown of Laon, daughter of Charibert of Laon and ???

They had 2 children:

• Thiedrada • Théodrade of Herstal

Bernard died 787 in Toulouse-Le-Château, Jura, Franche-Comté, France

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Ben M. Angel's summary:

Relationships:

Parents: Charles Martel and his mistress Chrothrais (Ruadtrud, Ruadheid)

Spouse 1: Unknown Frankish woman:

Children 1: Adalhard I (c.752-826), Abbot of Corbie (731-826)

Spouse 2: Unknown Saxon woman:

Children 2:

1. Walo/Walacho (772/773 - 836), Abbot of Corbie (826-836)

2. Gundrada, nun in 814

3. Bernhar (c.776-c821), monk at Corbie

4. Theoderada, Abbess at St-Marie-de-Soissons

5. Ida or Ingeltrude, m. Ekbert

Basic information justification:

Name: Bernard, son of Charles Martel (he was a comte, but his territory wasn't defined, he also was a military leader in Charlemagne's campaign against the Lombards)

Birth c.732, somewhere in Neustria (father was defending region from Muslim invasion in Poitiers around time of birth)

Death 784, somewhere in Austrasia (death was recorded in the Annales Mosellani - a yearbook published in Metz, along with brother Remigius, who was Bishop in Rouen, both on the Austrasian side of the Neustria-Austrasia frontier).

Marriages, based on children's birth dates:

Frankish woman, sometime around 750

Saxon woman: sometime around 770

Locations: somewhere in the Carolingian Empire.

Alternate names: Bernard, Bernaud, Bernhard,

Offices: Comte, military leader in Lombard campaign

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From the Foundation for Medieval Genealogy page on Merovingian Nobility (covering his birth family):

http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/FRANKSMaiordomi.htm#_Toc184117352

CHARLES “Martel”, son of PEPIN [II] "le Gros" or "d'Herstal" & his second [wife] Chalpais [Alpais] ([690]-Quierzy-sur-Oise, Aisne 16 or 22 Oct 741, bur église de l'abbaye royale de Saint Denis).

The Chronicon Moissiacense names "Karolum" as son of "Pippinus præfatus princeps…ex alia uxore nomine Alpaigde"[151].

He was imprisoned by his father's first wife after his father died[152]. However, the Neustrians revolted against Plectrudis, Charles escaped, was at first defeated by the Neustrians, but won the battle of Amblève, near Liège, in 716. He was victorious at Vinchy, near Cambrai, 28 May 717 after which Chilperic II King of Neustria fled with his maior domus, leaving Charles unchallenged to succeed as maior domus in Austrasia.

"Karolus" donated his part in "villa Bollane" to "monasterium Efternacum" by charter dated dated 23 Feb 717, which names "genitore meo Pippino"[153].

He conquered the Saxons in 718 and the Frisians in 719 when he captured Utrecht. He conquered the Neustrians, together with their ally Eudes Duke of Aquitaine, in 719.

He released and recognised King Chilperic II, becoming maior domus in Neustria.

"Theudericus rex Francorum" confirmed a donation to the abbey of St Denis on the request of "Carlo maiorem domus nostro" by charter dated 1 Mar 723[154].

He defeated the Muslim invaders, under Abd-al-Rahman bin Abd Allah al-Ghafiqi [Governor of Andalucía], at Moussais near Poitiers 25 Oct 732. The dating of the various Muslim incursions in southern France in the 720s/730s is discussed in the Histoire Générale de Languedoc[155].

He extended his authority to other French provinces: Hunald Duke of the Aquitanians swore allegiance to him in 736, he subjugated Burgundy and Provence in 736-738. In 737, he omitted to nominate a successor on the death of King Theoderic IV, signalling the effective end of the Merovingian monarchy.

The Annales Sancti Amandi record the death "741 Id Oct" of "Karolus dux Francorum"[156]. The necrology of the abbey of Saint-Denis records the death "XVII Kal Nov" of "Karolus princeps"[157]. The Continuator of Fredegar records the same date for his death and his burial place[158].

m firstly CHROTHRUDIS, daughter of --- ([690]-[724/25]).

The Annales Laureshamenses record the death in 724 of "Hortrudis"[159]. The Annales Mosellani record the death in 725 of "Chrothrud"[160].

Settipani quotes a name list in the Liber confraternitatum augiensis which reads in part "Karolus maior domus, Pippin rex…Karolus imperator…Ruadtrud, Ruadheid, Svanahild regina, Bertha regina, Hiltikart regina, Fastrat regina, Liutkart regina…"[161]. He makes the obvious links between "Karolus maior domus…Svanahild regina", "Pippin rex…Bertha regina" and "Karolus imperator…Hiltikart regina, Fastrat regina, Liutkart regina", deducing that "Ruadtrud, Ruadheid" must also be linked logically to "Karolus maior domus" because of the order in which the names are listed. The primary source which specifically names the first wife of Charles "Martel" has not been identified.

m secondly (725) SUANACHILDIS [Suanhilde], niece of ODILO Duke of Bavaria, daughter of --- (-after 17 Sep 741).

The precise parentage of Suanachildis is not known. The Continuator of Fredegar records that "matrona quondam…Beletrude et nepta sua Sunnichilde" were captured and taken to Austrasia by Charles "Martel" in [724/25][162]. Einhard names "Swannhilde neptem Odilonis ducis Baioariorum" as the mother of Grifo[163]. The precise relationship between Suanhilde and Pilitrude, who was the wife in turn of the brothers Grimoald and Theodoald, has not been identified.

She instigated the marriage of her stepdaughter to Odilo Duke of Bavaria according to the Continuator of Fredegar[164].

After the death of her husband, she incited her son to rebel against her stepsons. She was defeated and sent to the monastery of Chelles, Seine-et-Marne. "Karlus maiorum domus filius Pippini quondam" donated property "villa Clippiacum in pago Parisiaco" to the abbey of St Denis by charter dated 17 Sep 741, subscribed by "Radberti comitis, Raygaubaldi comitis, Salaconis comitis, matrone Sonechildis, Grifonis filii sui"[165].

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Mistress (1): CHROTHAIS, daughter of ---.

Settipani quotes a name list in the Liber confraternitatum augiensis, quoted above under Chrothrudis first wife of Charles "Martel", concluding that "Ruadtrud, Ruadheid" must be linked logically to "Karolus maior domus" because of the order in which the names are listed[166].

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Mistress (2): ---.

The name of the second mistress of Charles "Martel" is not known.

Charles "Martel" & his first wife had three children:

1. CARLOMAN ([705/10]-4 Dec 754, bur Vienne, Isère).

Einhard names "Karlomannum…et Pippinum atque Grifonem" as the three sons of "Karlus maior domus" when recording the latter's death[167]. The Genealogica Arnulfi Comitis names (in order) "Pipinum, Karlomannum, Griphonem et Bernardum" sons of "Karolus senior…ex regina"[168]. "Karlomanni filii eius" subscribed the charter dated 1 Jan 722 under which "Karolus maiorum domus filius Pippini quondam" donated property "castrum…Fethna sitam in pago Nifterlaco" to the monastery "infra muros Traiecto castro"[169].

He succeeded his father as maior domus, jointly with his brother Pepin. They deprived their half-brother Grifo of his inheritance, and defeated him after he rebelled against them. In the division of territories agreed with his brother, Carloman governed Austrasia, Alemannia, Thuringia and northern Alsace. The brothers were faced with revolts in Frisia, Bavaria, Alemannia and Aquitaine.

As a symbolic assertion of their authority, they nominated Childeric III as [Merovingian] king in 743. Einhard records that "Karlomannus" was in Saxony at "castrum Hohseoburg" and there accepted the surrender of "Theodericum Saxonem illius loci primarium" in 743[170]. "Childerichus rex Francorum" with "Karolomanno maiores domus, rectori palatio nostro" confirmed donations to the monastery of Stablo and Malmedy by charter dated Jul 744[171].

In 745, Carloman's brother Pepin appropriated the province of Alemannia for himself. Carloman reasserted his authority with an expedition against the Alemans in 746, massacring the leaders who had betrayed him to his brother. This triggered the defection of his other supporters, and Carloman relinquished power.

The Chronicon Sancti Medardi Suessionensis records that “Carlomannus frater Pippini junioris” became a monk in 745 and that “Pippinus junior parvus frater eius” obtained the whole of “Principatum Francorum”[172].

The Royal Frankish Annals record that, after 15 Aug 747, he left for Rome, where he built the monastery of St Sylvester on Monte Soracte before moving to the monastery of St Benedict at Monte Cassino where he became a monk[173]. He returned to France in 753 to oppose the request by Pope Stephen III (II) for Frankish help against the Lombards[174].

The Annales Moselleni record the death in 754 of "Karlamannus"[175].

m ---. The name of Carloman's wife is not known.

Carloman & his wife had [three or more] children (including Drogo 730/35 - after 753).

2. PEPIN [III] (715-Saint-Denis 24 Sep 768, bur église de l'abbaye royale de Saint Denis).

Einhard names "Karlomannum…et Pippinum atque Grifonem" as the three sons of "Karlus maior domus" when recording the latter's death[178]. The Genealogica Arnulfi Comitis names (in order) "Pipinum, Karlomannum, Griphonem et Bernardum" sons of "Karolus senior…ex regina"[179].

He succeeded his father as maior domus jointly with his brother Carloman. He succeeded in 751 as PEPIN “le Bref” King of the Franks.

3. CHILTRUDIS [Hiltrude] (-754, bur Hostenhoven, Kloster Gengenbach).

The Continuator of Fredegar names "Chiltrudis" as daughter of Charles "Martel", stating that her "wicked stepmother" incited her to joined Odilo of Bavaria whom she married without the permission of her brothers[180].

After the death of her husband, she was regent in Bavaria for her son Duke Tassilo III. The Annales Moselleni record the death in 754 of "Hildtrud"[181].

m (741) ODILO Duke of Bavaria [Agilolfinger], son of --- (-18 Jan 748, bur Hostenhoven, Kloster Gengenbach). His brother-in-law Carloman invaded Bavaria, and Odilo was forced to recognise Frankish suzerainty in 744.

Charles "Martel" & his [first/second wife/mistress] had two possible children:

4. [LANDRADA .

Settipani quotes an Aquitaine necrology which lists "Willelmus…pater eius Theodericus, mater Aldana soror Hiltrudis et Landradæ"[182]. He suggests that "Hiltrudis" was the wife of Odilo Duke of Bavaria, and therefore that all three sisters were daughters of Charles "Martel". The theory is attractive but not conclusive, as its validity depends on there being no other contemporary Hiltrudis, which is not provable. If it is correct, there is no indication about the mother of Landrada and Aldana.

Hlawitschka highlights the case against the affiliation[183]. However, the evidence of the 25 May 765 charter, quoted below, suggests that Settipani´s hypothesis may be correct.]

same person as …? LANDRADA . The Gesta Episcoporum Mettensis names "Chrodegangus antistes…ex pago Hasbaniensi oriundus, patre Sigramno, matre Landrada, Francorum ex genere primæ nobilitatis progenitus" as Bishop of Metz[184]. The co-identity between Landrada, wife of Sigramnus, and Landrada, supposed daughter of Charles "Martel" is suggested by the charter dated 25 May 765 under which "Grodegangus…archiepiscopus" [son of Sigramnus and Landrada] donated property "in pago Wormacensi…[et] in villa Dagosbesher…in Hostoven, Burdus, in villa Flamersheim ecclesiam" to Gorze, with the consent of "Pipini…Francorum regis, avunculi mei"[185].

m SIGRAMNUS, son of ---.

5. [ALDANA .

Settipani quotes an Aquitaine necrology which lists "Willelmus…pater eius Theodericus, mater Aldana soror Hiltrudis et Landradæ"[186]. He suggests that "Hiltrudis" was the wife of Odilo Duke of Bavaria, and therefore that all three sisters were daughters of Charles "Martel". The theory is attractive but not conclusive, as its validity depends on there being no other contemporary Hiltrudis, which is not provable. If it is correct, there is no indication about the mother of Landrada and Aldana.

Hlawitschka highlights the case against the affiliation[187]. However, the evidence of the 25 May 765 charter, quoted above under Aldana´s supposed sister Landrada, suggests that Settipani´s hypothesis may be correct.

In addition, Einhard indicates that Theoderic [I] was related to Charles I King of the Franks when he records that in 782 King Charles sent his three missi "Adalgiso camerario et Geilone comite stabuli et Worado comite palati" to meet "in…Saxonis…Theodericus comes, propinquus regis"[188]. One possible relationship being between the king and Theoderic [I] would have been through his wife, if she had been the king's paternal aunt.

"Willelmus…comes" names "genitore meo Theuderico et genitrice mea Aldana" in his charter dated 14 Dec 804 (version two: dated 15 Dec 804) for the foundation of the monastery of Gellone[189].

m THEODERIC [I] Comte d'Autun, son of --- (-before 804).]

Charles "Martel" & his second wife had one child:

6. GRIFO ([726]-killed in battle Saint Jean de Maurienne 753).

Einhard names "Karlomannum…et Pippinum atque Grifonem" as the three sons of "Karlus maior domus" when recording the latter's death, specifying that "Grifo…minor natu…matrem habuit Swannhilde neptem Odilonis ducis Baioariorum"[190]. The Genealogica Arnulfi Comitis names (in order) "Pipinum, Karlomannum, Griphonem et Bernardum" sons of "Karolus senior…ex regina"[191]. "Karlus maiorum domus filius Pippini quondam" donated property "villa Clippiacum in pago Parisiaco" to the abbey of Saint-Denis by charter dated 17 Sep 741, subscribed by "Radberti comitis, Raygaubaldi comitis, Salaconis comitis, matrone Sonechildis, Grifonis filii sui"[192].

His father bequeathed to Grifo the central part of his territory, but his stepbrothers Carloman and Pepin deprived him of this inheritance and split the land between themselves. Grifo rebelled, incited by his mother, but was defeated at Laon and imprisoned by Carloman at Neufchâteau in the Ardennes[193].

He was released in 747 by his brother Pepin and fled to Saxony, where he raised an army although armed conflict was avoided[194]. He invaded Bavaria where he was recognised as Duke in 748 in succession to Duke Odilo, but was deposed by Pepin who installed their nephew Tassilo III as duke.

According to the Royal Frankish Annals, in 748 Pepin granted Grifo the duchy of Mans and 12 counties in Neustria, although the source does not identify these counties more precisely[195]. The Continuator of Fredegar records that in 748 "germanus ipsius rege…Gripho" fled once more and allied himself with Waifar Duke of the Aquitanians[196]. Grifo rebelled yet again, in alliance with the Bretons.

He fled to Lombardy to join Aistulf King of the Lombards but was caught and killed while he was passing the Alps by "Theudoeno comite Viennense…et Frederico Ultraiurano comite"[197], two of Pepin's supporters. His escape to Italy, capture and death at the hands of "Theodoino comite in valle Maurienna" is also recorded in the Annales Laurissenses[198].

m ---. The name of Grifo's wife is not known.

Grifo & his wife had [two possible] children: Grifo and Charles.

Charles "Martel" had one illegitimate son by Mistress (1):

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7. BERNARD (before 732-787).

The Genealogica Arnulfi Comitis names (in order) "Pipinum, Karlomannum, Griphonem et Bernardum" as sons of "Karolus senior…ex regina"[201].

Comte.

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Charles "Martel" had two illegitimate sons by Mistress (2):

8. HIERONYMUS (-after [782]).

The Genealogica Arnulfi Comitis names (in order) "Remigium et Geronimum" as sons of "Karolus senior…ex concubina"[202]. Comte. Abbé de Saint-Quentin.

9. REMIGIUS (-787).

The Genealogica Arnulfi Comitis names (in order) "Remigium et Geronimum" as sons of "Karolus senior…ex concubina"[203]. Bishop of Rouen 755-771. The Annales Moselleni record the death in 787 of "Remigius et Bernehardus"[204].

References:

[151] Chronicon Moissiacense 713, MGH SS I, p. 289.

[152] Fredegar (Continuator), 8, MGH SS rer Merov II, p. 173.

[153] MGH Diplomatum Imperii I, Diplomata Maiorum Domum, no. 7, p. 96.

[154] MGH Diplomatum Imperii I, Diplomata Regum Francorum, no. 93, p. 82.

[155] Devic, Dom C., Dom Vaissete, Dulaurier, E. (1875) Histoire générale de Languedoc, 3rd Edn. (Toulouse), Tome II, Note LXXXIV, p. 204.

[156] Annales Sancti Amandi Continuatio 741, MGH SS 1, p. 10.

[157] Obituaires de Sens Tome I.1, Abbaye de Saint-Denis, p. 328.

[158] Fredegar (Continuator), 24, MGH SS rer Merov II, p. 1179.

[159] Annales Laureshamenses, MGH SS I, p. 24.

[160] Annales Mosellani, MGH SS XVI, p. 494.

[161] Settipani, C. 'L'apport de l'onomastique dans l'étude des genealogies carolingiennes', Keats-Rohan, K. S. B. and Settipani, C. (eds.) (2000) Onomastique et Parenté dans l'Occident medieval (Prosopographica et Genealogica, Vol. 3), pp. 167-8, quoting Liber confraternitatum augiensis, MGH Lib Confr II, 460, p. 292.

[162] Fredegar (Continuation), 12, MGH SS rer Merov II, p. 175.

[163] Annales Einhardi 741, MGH SS I, p. 135.

[164] Fredegar (Continuator), 25, MGH SS rer Merov II, p. 180.

[165] MGH Diplomatum Imperii I, Diplomata Maiorum Domum, no. 14, p. 101.

[166] Settipani, pp. 167-8, quoting Liber confraternitatum augiensis, MGH Lib Confr II, 460, p. 292.

[167] Annales Einhardi 741, MGH SS I, p. 135.

[168] Genealogiæ Comitum Flandriæ, Witgeri Genealogica Arnulfi Comitis MGH SS IX, p. 302.

[169] MGH Diplomatum Imperii I, Diplomata Maiorum Domum, no. 11, p. 98.

[170] Annales Einhardi 743, MGH SS I, p. 135.

[171] MGH Diplomatum Imperii I, Diplomata Regum Francorum, no. 97, p. 87.

[172] Chronica Sancti Medardi Suessionensis, Spicilegium II, p. 487.

[173] Scholz, B. W. with Rogers, B. (2000) Carolingian Chronicles: Royal Frankish Annals and Nithard's Histories (University of Michigan Press) (“RFA”), 746, p. 38.

[174] RFA 753, p. 40.

[175] Annales Moselleni 754, MGH SS XVI, p. 495.

[178] Annales Einhardi 741, MGH SS I, p. 135.

[179] Genealogiæ Comitum Flandriæ, Witgeri Genealogica Arnulfi Comitis MGH SS IX, p. 302.

[180] Fredegar (Continuator), 25, MGH SS rer Merov II, p. 180.

[181] Annales Moselleni 754, MGH SS XVI, p. 495.

[182] Settipani (1993), p. 173, quoting Mabillon Acta Sanctorum ord. s. Ben. IV 1, p. 71.

[183] Hlawitschka, E. 'Die Vorfahren Karls des Großen', Beumann, H. (ed.) (1965) Karl der Große (Düsseldorf), pp. 76-78, cited in Settipani (1993), p. 174.

[184] Pauli Gesta Episcoporum Mettensis , MGH SS II, p. 267.

[185] Calmet, A. (1748) Histoire de Lorraine (Nancy), Tome II, Preuves, col. cv.

[186] Settipani (1993), p. 173, quoting Mabillon Acta Sanctorum ord. s. Ben. IV 1, p. 71.

[187] Hlawitschka, E. 'Die Vorfahren Karls des Großen', Beumann, H. (ed.) (1965) Karl der Große (Düsseldorf), pp. 76-78, cited in Settipani (1993), p. 174.

[188] Einhardi Annales 782, MGH SS I, p. 163.

[189] Reproduced in Thomassy, R. 'Critique des deux chartes de foundation de l'abbaye de Saint-Guillem-du-Désert', Bibliothèque de l'Ecole des Chartes, Série 1, Tome II (Paris 1840-1844), p. 179.

[190] Annales Einhardi 741, MGH SS I, p. 135.

[191] Genealogiæ Comitum Flandriæ, Witgeri Genealogica Arnulfi Comitis MGH SS IX, p. 302.

[192] MGH Diplomatum Imperii I, Diplomata Maiorum Domum, no. 14, p. 101.

[193] RFA 741, p. 37.

[194] RFA 747, p. 38.

[195] RFA 748, p. 39.

[196] RFA 748, p. 39.

[197] Fredegar (Continuator), 35, MGH SS rer Merov II, p. 183.

[198] Annales Laurissenses minores 755, 14, MGH SS I, p. 116.

[201] Genealogiæ Comitum Flandriæ, Witgeri Genealogica Arnulfi Comitis MGH SS IX, p. 302.

[202] Genealogiæ Comitum Flandriæ, Witgeri Genealogica Arnulfi Comitis MGH SS IX, p. 302.

[203] Genealogiæ Comitum Flandriæ, Witgeri Genealogica Arnulfi Comitis MGH SS IX, p. 302.

[204] Annales Moselleni 787, MGH SS XVI, p. 495.


From the Foundation for Medieval Genealogy page on Carolingian Nobility:

http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/FRANKISH%20NOBILITY.htm#Bernarddied787B

BERNARD, illegitimate son of CHARLES "Martel" & his mistress Chrothais (before 732-787).

The Genealogica Arnulfi Comitis names (in order) "Pipinum, Karlomannum, Griphonem et Bernardum" as sons of "Karolus senior…ex regina"[10]. Bernard's relationship to the Carolingian kings is confirmed by Einhard's Annales which name "Walanem filium Bernhardi patruelis sui" when recording that he was sent to Italy in 812 as guardian for "Bernhardum filium Pippin nepotem suum [Karoli imperatoris]"[11].

Charles I King of the Franks sent Bernard as head of part of his army to Italy, through the Great St Bernard Pass, in response to the Pope's call for help against the Lombards in 773[12]. The Chronicon Moissiacensis records that “Bernardum avunculum suum” (referring to King Charles) led part of the army “per Jovis-montem in Italia”, in 770 but dated to 773[13].

The Annales Moselleni record the death in 787 of "Remigius et Bernehardus"[14].

m firstly ---. Settipani states that the first wife of Bernard was of Frankish origin but does not cite the source on which this is based[15].

m secondly ---. Settipani states that the second wife of Bernard was of Saxon origin but does not cite the source on which this is based[16].

Bernard & his first wife had one child:

1. ADALHARD [I] ([752]-2 Jan 826).

The Vita Adalhardi refers to "quinque…viri propagati…maior natu senex noster sanctissimus", referring to Adalhard, recording in an earlier passage that he entered holy orders at the age of 20[17]. Although the passage does not name Adalhard's father, it names his younger brother "Wala" whose father is named in Einhard's Annales which record "Walach comes filius Bernhardi"[18].

The Annales Laurissenses record that King Charles came to "Corbonaeum villam" in 771 with "Wilcharius archiepiscopus et Folradus capellanus…Warinus et Adalhardus comites"[19]. Although it is not certain that this "Adalhardus" was the son of Bernard or a different person, no reference to another contemporary of the same name has so far been found.

Abbé de Corbie 781.

A Capitulum of Charles I King of the Franks dated Jun 800 names "Adalardo comiti palatio nostri"[20]. "Comiti Hadalhardus, Fulradus, Unrocus seu Hrocculfus" are named as imperial missi in a document of Emperor Charlemagne dated 806[21].

Adalhard was tutor of Pepin King of Italy, son of Charlemagne, and was appointed regent for Pepin's son Bernard King of Italy in 813[22].

He was exiled to Noirmoutier after the death of Charlemagne in 814, but returned to favour in 821.

Einhard's Annales record that "Adalhardum quoque de Aquitania" was appointed "Corbeiæ monasterio abbatem" in 821[23]. The primary source which records the date of death of Adalhard has not so far been identified.

Bernard & his second wife had [five] children:

2. WALO [Walacho] ([772/73]-Bobbio 31 Aug 836).

Einhard's Annales record "Walach comes filius Bernhardi" as one of the signatories of peace with the Vikings in 811[24]. The Vita Adalhardi refers to "quinque…viri propagati…maior natu senex noster sanctissimus…", referring to Adalhard, "…deinde Wala…"[25].

There does not appear to be any direct proof that Walo was born from his father's second marriage, other than the indirect indication from the 20 year difference between the estimated birth dates of Walo and Adalhard [I].

A list of Saxons in Ostphalia dated Jan/Feb 802 records that "Fredegarium filium Wicharii habuit Walah", presumably indicating that the last named had responsibility for the allegiance sworn to the emperor by the first-named[26]. Assuming that this refers to Walo son of Bernard, it shows that he bore the title count only after this date, as the source specifies the titles in the case of many other individuals named. The Translatio Sancti Viti names "Walonem" as "frater prioris Adalhardi"[27].

Governor of Saxony.

Einhard names "Walacho comes" as one of the 15 witnesses of the testament of Emperor Charlemagne dated 811[28]. Einhard's Annales record that "Walanem filium Bernhardi patruelis sui" was sent to Italy in 812 as guardian for "Bernhardum filium Pippin nepotem suum [Karoli imperatoris]"[29]. The Vita Hludowici Imperatoris names "Walam et Warnarium, necnon et Lambertum sed et Ingobertum" as missi [in 813], recording that "Warnarius comes…accito nepote Lantberto" acted without the knowledge of "Wala et Ingelberto"[30].

Walo became a monk in [814/15] following the death of Emperor Charlemagne. Einhard's Annales record that Emperor Louis I sent "Walahum monachum propinquum suum [imperatoris] fratrem…Adalhardi abbatis" to Italy in 822 with "Hlotharius…filium suum"[31].

Abbé de Corbie 826-836, in succession to his brother.

He became Abbot of Bobbio in Italy in 836. The Vita Hludowici Imperatoris records that "Wala Corbeiensis abbas, Matfridus, Hugo, Lantbertus, Godefridus, itemque filius eius Godefridus, Agimbertus comes Pertensis…sed et Richardus" died between "Kal Sep usque ad missam sancti Martini" [in 836][32].

m ---. No explicit reference to the wife of Walo has so far been found in primary sources. However, the Vita Wala names "sceleratus Naso…Amisarius" when recording Walo's exploits in Spain, states that Walo married "sororem ipsius, filiam nobilissimi viri…", and that her brother was blinded[33].

Settipani cites sources which, from these references, identify Walo's wife as the sister of Bernard Marquis de Septimanie and Heribert (who was blinded), and therefore daughter of St Guillaume Comte de Toulouse. Assuming that this identification is correct, of the possible candidates Settipani eliminates Helmburgis from the known daughters of Guillaume, suggesting that she died young, as well as Gerberga, who was murdered in 834 at Chalon by allies of Walo, which leaves Chrodlindis [Rothlindis], daughter of [St] Guillaume Comte de Toulouse, as the only possibility[34]. The link is credible but is not without doubt, particularly because of the uncertainties about the parentage of Heribert which are discussed below.

Walo & his wife had one child, Bertrudis.

3. GUNDRADA .

The Vita Adalhardi names "quibus…soror [eius] Gundrada", this text following the paragraph which records "quinque…viri propagati…"[36].

According to Settipani, Gundrada became a nun in 814 but he does not cite the primary source on which this is based[37].

4. BERNHAR ([776]-after 821).

Bernhar is named as brother of Adalhard in the Royal Frankish Annals[38]. The Vita Adalhardi refers to "reliqui…duo…Bernarius noster…et Theodrada soror eius", this text following the paragraph which records "quinque…viri propagati…"[39].

Monk at Corbie 801.

He lived in exile with his brother Walo in 821, but was recalled and restored to Corbie[40]. Einhard's Annales record that "Adalhardum quoque de Aquitania" was appointed "Corbeiæ monasterio abbatem" in 821 and that "Bernharium frater eius" returned to the monastery at the same time[41].

5. THEODERADA .

The De Sancto Ratberto Abbate Corbeiensi names "Thedradam apud Sanctam Mariam Suessionis abbatissam…Adalardi et Wale sororem"[42]. The Vita Adalhardi names "Bernarius…et Theodrada soror eius", this text following the paragraph which records "quinque…viri propagate…"[43].

According to Settipani, Theodrada became a nun in 814 but he does not cite the primary source on which this is based[44].

Abbess of Sainte-Marie de Soissons.

m ---. The name of Theodrada's husband is not known.

6. [IDA .

The Vita Sancti Idæ names Ida as only daughter of an unnamed count[46], the Introduction to the MGH SS edition citing "annalibus Corbeiensibus in bibliotheca Regia" which name Ida as "Adalhard et Walæ soror, uxor Egberti quem Brunonis Angrariorum principis filium fuisse", commenting that she died aged 100[47].

She is not named as the sister of Adalhard in the Vita Adalhardi.

m EKBERT, son of BRUNO & his wife ---.]

References:

[10] Genealogiæ Comitum Flandriæ, Witgeri Genealogica Arnulfi Comitis MGH SS IX, p. 302.

[11] Einhardi Annales 812, MGH SS I, p. 199.

[12] Scholz, B. W. with Rogers, B. (2000) Carolingian Chronicles: Royal Frankish Annals and Nithard's Histories (University of Michigan Press) (“RFA”) 773, p. 49.

[13] Ex Veteri Chronico Moissiacensis seu Musciacensis Cœnobii, RHGF V, p. 69.

[14] Annales Moselleni 787, MGH SS XVI, p. 495.

[15] Settipani, C. and Kerrebrouck, P. van (1993) La préhistoire des Capétiens 481-987, 1ère partie, Mérovingiens, Carolingiens et Robertiens (Villeneuve d'Ascq), p. 355.

[16] Settipani (1993), p. 355.

[17] Vita Adalhardi 32 and 8, MGH SS II, pp. 527 and 525.

[18] Einhardi Annales 811, MGH SS I, p. 198.

[19] Annales Laurissenses 771, MGH SS I, p. 148.

[20] Capitulum pro pago Cenomannico, MGH LL 1, p. 82.

[21] Capitula missorum Dominicorum, MGH LL 1, p. 137.

[22] RFA 812 and 813, p. 95.

[23] Einhardi Annales 821, MGH SS I, p. 208.

[24] Einhardi Annales 811, MGH SS I, p. 198.

[25] Vita Adalhardi 32, MGH SS II, p. 527.

[26] Mandatum de Saxonibus Obsidibus, MGH LL 1, p. 89.

[27] Historia Translationis S. Viti 7, MGH SS II, p. 578.

[28] Einhardi Vita Karoli Imperatoris, MGH SS II, p. 463.

[29] Einhardi Annales 812, MGH SS I, p. 199.

[30] Vita Hludowici Imperatoris 21, MGH SS II, p. 618.

[31] Einhardi Annales 822, MGH SS I, p. 209.

[32] Vita Hludowici Imperatoris 56, MGH SS II, p. 642.

[33] Vita Wala II 8, 9 and 10, MGH SS II, pp. 551-2 and 555.

[34] Settipani (1993), p. 357 footnotes 1132 and 1135.

[36] Vita Adalhardi 33, MGH SS II, p. 527.

[37] Settipani (1993), p. 358.

[38] RFA 821, p. 110.

[39] Vita Adalhardi 33, MGH SS II, p. 527.

[40] RFA 821, p. 110.

[41] Einhardi Annales 821, MGH SS I, p. 208.

[42] De Sancto Ratberto Abbate Corbeiensi , MGH SS XV.I, p. 452.

[43] Vita Adalhardi 33, MGH SS II, p. 527.

[44] Settipani (1993), p. 358.

[46] Vita Sancti Idæ auctore Uffingo Monacho Werthinensi 1, MGH SS II, p. 570.

[47] MGH SS II, p. 569.


From the Wikipedia page of Bernard, son of Charles Martel:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernhard,_son_of_Charles_Martel

Bernard or Bernhard (born c. 720) was a son of Charles Martel by his mistress Ruodhaid. He is an obscure figure, rising out of the mists only to lead half of the Frankish army in his nephew Charlemagne's Lombard campaign. While Charlemagne led his contingent through the pass of Moncenisio, Bernard led his through the Great St. Bernard Pass.

He is known to have had two sons of both disgrace and prominence in the reign of Charlemagne's son Louis the Pious:

1. Adalard, disgraced and then became a steward of Louis the Pious

2. Wala (d. 835), disgraced and then became the chief advisor of Lothair I in his rebellions

3. Ingeltrude, a daughter who was the mistress of King Pippin of Italy and by whom she had King Bernard of Italy.


From the French Wikipedia page on Bernard:

http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernard_(fils_de_Charles_Martel)

Bernard ou Bernhard († 787) est un comte carolingien (Comte de Saint-Quentin), fils de Charles Martel, maire du palais d'Austrasie, de Neustrie et de Bourgogne, et de Chrotais.

En 774, à la demande du pape Adrien Ier, il est envoyé par Charlemagne à la tête d'une armée pour combattre les Lombards. Selon les Annales Mosellani, il meurt en 787 [1].

Avec une première épouse d'origine franque dont on ne connait pas le nom, il a un fils [2] :

1. Adalard (v. 752 † 2 janvier 826), missus dominicus, comte du palais de Charlemagne et abbé de Corbie.

Avec une seconde épouse d'origine saxonne, il a quatre enfants [2] :

1. Wala (v. 772 † 31 août 836), abbé de Corbie

2. Gundrade († ap.814), vierge et religieuse

3. Bernard (v. 776 † ap.821), moine à l'abbaye de Corbie en 801.

4. Théodrada, abbesse de Saint-Marie de Soissons après avoir été mariée et mère d'une fille, Imme, qui lui a ensuite succédé comme abbesse.

In English:

Bernard or Bernaud (d. 787) was a Carolingian count (Comte de Saint-Quentin), and a son of Charles Martel, Mayor of the Palace of Austrasia, Neustria, and Burgundy, and his wife Chrotais.

In 774, at the request of Pope Hadrian I, he was sent by Charlemagne at the head of an army to fight the Lombards. According to the Annales Mosellani, he died in 787 [1].

With his first wife, of whom we do not know the name but we know was of Frankish origin, he had a son [2]:

1. Adalard (c.752 - 2 January 826), Dominicus Missus, Comte of the Palace of Charlemagne and Abbot of Corbie.

With his second wife, of Saxon origin, he had four children [2]:

1. Wala (c.772 - 31 August 836), Abbot of Corbie

2. Gundrade (d. 814), a "virgin nun"

3. Bernard (c.776-821), a monk at the Corbie Monastery as of 801.

4. Theodrada, married unknown and with a daughter, Imme, and then later succeeded as Abbess of Saint-Marie de Soissons

Notes et références

1. ↑ Les Annales Mosellani précisent que « cette année là [787] moururent Remigius et Bernhard ». Bien que Remigius soit mort en 771, il n'y a pas lieu d'écarter l'information pour Bernard (the Annales Mossellani states that "in 787 Remigius and Bernhard died in 771, but there is no reason to exclude the information about Bernhard"). (Settipani 1993, p. 355, note 1118).

2. ↑ La Vita Adalhardi précise que « Bernhard ... engendra cinq enfants : d'abord l'aîné, notre père vénérable (Adalhard) ... puis Wala ... puis Gundrada .. enfin notre Bernhard et sa sœur Theodrada » (The "Vita Adalhard" states that "Bernhard... was the father of five children: the eldest was our venerable father - Adalhard... then Wala... then Gundrada... Bernhard, and finally our sister Theodrada.") (Settipani 1993, p. 355, note 1121).

Bibliographie

Christian Settipani, La Préhistoire des Capétiens (Nouvelle histoire généalogique de l'auguste maison de France, vol. 1), éd. Patrick van Kerrebrouck, 1993 (ISBN 2-9501509-3-4), p. 355-8

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From the Italian Wikipedia page for Bernardo:

http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernardo_(figlio_di_Carlo_Martello)

Bernardo (n. 720 circa) fu un figlio di Carlo Martello e dell'amante Ruodaide.

Egli è una figura oscura, che si distinse per aver guidato metà dell'esercito franco nella campagna longobarda del nipote Carlo Magno; mentre quest'ultimo guidava il suo contingente attraverso il passo del Moncenisio, Bernardo condusse il suo attraverso il Gran San Bernardo.

Egli è ricordato per aver avuto due figli che conobbero la disgrazia, ma anche grande importanza nel regno di Ludovico il Pio, figlio di Carlo Magno:

1. Sant'Adelardo, caduto in disgrazia ed in seguito divenuto maggiordomo di Ludovico il Pio;

2. Wala (m. 835), anch'esso finito in disgrazia e poi divenuto principale consigliere dell'imperatore Lotario I nelle sue ribellioni;

3. Ingeltrude, che fu l'amante di re Pipino d'Italia, dal quale ebbe re Bernardo d'Italia.

(Apparently a direct translation of the English article, with one reference cited.)

Collegamenti esterni

Genealogia di Bernardo (Miroslav Marek's research):

http://genealogy.euweb.cz/carolin/carolin2.html#Char


From the Bulgarian Wikipedia page on Bernhard:

http://bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%91%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%BD%D1%85%D0%B0%D1%80%D0%B4_(%D1%81%D0%B8%D0%BD_%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%9A%D0%B0%D1%80%D0%BB_%D0%9C%D0%B0%D1%80%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB)

In English:

Bernard or Bernhard (720-787) was a Carolingian count. He was the illegitimate son of Charles Martel and Ruodhade, a Saxon woman [1].

Bernhard assisted his nephew Charlemagne in leading a Frankish army in his campaign against the Lombards (773-774) by crossing the Pass of Mont Cenis, which was later named the Great Pass of St. Bernard. In 787, he died.

With a Frankish woman, he had a son:

1. Adalhard (752 - 2 January 826), Abbot of Corbie, Comte du Palais for Charlemagne

With a Saxon woman, he was the father of:

1. Wala (773 - 31 August 836), Abbot of Corbie

2. Gundrada (d. 814)

3. Bernard (776 - 821), Abbot of Corbie

4. Teodrada, Abbess

5. Ingeltrude or Ida

1. ↑ Schreiber, Karl-Heinz (2002). "Ruodhaid-Nebenfrau Karl Martells" (in German). Genealogie Mittelalter. self-published. http://www.mittelalter-genealogie.de/karolinger/ruodhaid_nebenfrau_karl_martells.html


From Karl-Heinz Schreiber's page on Ruodhaid, his mother:

http://www.mittelalter-genealogie.de/karolinger/ruodhaid_nebenfrau_karl_martells.html

Ruodhaid, Nebenfrau Karl Martells

Tochter des N.N.

Hlawitschka Eduard: Seite 78

"Die Vorfahren Karls des Großen"

32 Chrodtrud - (Ruodhaid)

Chrodtrud wird in keiner erzählenden Quelle und in keiner Urkunde ausdrücklich als Gemahlin Karl Martells erwähnt. Da jedoch in der Gruppe der älteren karolingischen Annalen (Ann. Moselani, Ann. Laureshamenses, Ann. Petaviani, Ann. Nazariani), die dem KAROLINGER-Hause bekanntlich sehr nahe stehen, zu 725 Chrothrud mortua bzw. Hrottrudis mortua bzw. Chrotrudis mortitur überliefert wird (MG. SS. 16, Seite 494, MG. SS. 1, Seite 24, 9, 25) und andererseits Karl Martell gerade im nämlichen Jahr 725 von einem Feldzug nach Bayern Swanahild mitbringt, die er dann zur Gemahlin nimmt, hat man seit A. Valesius (1638) und J. Mabillon (1703) geschlossen, daß diese Chrodtrud Karl Martells erste Gemahlin gewesen sein müsse; vgl. H. Hahn, Jahrbücher des Fränkischen Reiches 741-752, Berlin 1863, Seite 1f., und Th. Breysig, Jahrbücher (wie in Nr. 18), Seite 9. Hahn hat außerdem zur Stützung dieser These auf die Wiederholung des Namens Chrodtrud bei einer Tochter KARLS DES GROSSEN hingewiesen.

Alle Zweifel werden meines Erachtens durch einen Eintrag ins Reichenauer Verbrüderungsbuch beseitigt. Dort findet man an der Spitze der Nomina defunctorum, qui presens coenobium sua largitate fundaverunt, die folgenden Namen: Karolus maior domus - Pippin rex - Karlomannus maior domus - Karolus imperator - Karlomannus - Karolus rex - Pippinus rex - Bernardus rex - Ruadtraud - Ruadheid - Suanahil regina - Berhta regina - Hiltikart regina - Fastrat regina - Liutkart regina - Ruadheid (danach Rasur) - Hirminkar regina; MG. Libri confrat., Seite 292, Spalte 460.

Hier handelt es ganz augenscheinlich um Karl Martell, König Pippin, dann dessen älteren Bruder Karlmann, schließlich um KARL DEN GROSSEN und seinen Bruder Karlmann, um KARLS DES GROSSEN Söhne Karl und Pippin sowie KARLS Enkel Bernhard von Italien. Die Frauenreihe ist nach Suanahil regina (!), der zweiten Gemahlin Karl Martells, auch übersichtlich. Es handelt sich um Gemahlinnen einiger der oben angeführten Männer, und zwar um Swanahild (die freilich niemals echte regina war) als zweiter Gemahlin Karl Martells, Berta als Gemahlin König Pippins, Hildegard, Fastrada und Liutgart als Gemahlinnen KARLS DES GROSSEN, Irmingard, die 818 verstorbene Gemahlin des zur Anfertigung des Eintrages noch lebenden LUDWIGS DES FROMMEN, und bei Ruadheid, nach deren Namen man das gleichfalls eingetragene regina wieder tilgte, wohl um die gleichnamige Schwester oder Tochter KARLS DES GROSSEN (nach L. Levllain, La charte de Clotilde [Bibliotheque de l'Ecole des Chartes 105, 1944], Seite 48-63, um die Gemahlin Pippins von Italien; mit der Annahme, daß diese Zusammenstellung von Abt Adalhard von Corbie (Nr. 51) verfertigt sei, geht er jedoch bei seinem Deutungsversuch jedoch von falschen Voraussetzungen aus, wodurch gerade jene Zuweisung hinfällig wird). Da somit in der Liste auch eine generationsmäßige Abfolge eingehalten zu sein scheint, kann die an der Spitze der Frauen stehende Ruadtrud nur mit dem an der Spitze der Männer stehenden Karl Martell in Verbindung gebracht und als Karl Martells erste Gemahlin betrachtet werden. Zumal nun außerdem feststeht, daß Karl Martells Söhne Bernhard, Hieronymus und Remedius/Remigius weder Vollgeschwister Karlmanns und König Pippins (Nr. 45 und 48) noch Vollgeschwister Grifos (Nr 41) waren, Karl Martell also neben der hiermit gesicherten Chrodtrud und neben Swanahild noch eine Nebenfrau gehabt haben muß, wird man nicht fehlgehen, wenn man jene in der an zweiter Stelle unter den Frauender Reichenauer Liste stehenden Ruadheid zu erkennen meint. Dabei darf man darauf verweisen, daß dann der Name Ruadheid auch bei einer Schwester KARLS DES GROSSEN (Nr. 60) sowie bei einer Tochter KARLS DES GROSSEN (Einhard, Vita Karoli c.18) wieder auftaucht. - Auf Chrodtruds Abstammung könnte etwas Licht fallen, wenn man jenen propinquus Karl Martells namens Wido, der Laienabt von St. Wandrille war und 739 wegen Hochverratsabsichten hingerichtet wurde (Gesta abb. Fontanell. c. 11, MG. SS. 2, Seite 284f.), als einen nahen Verwandten Chrodtruds oder mit A. Halbedel, Fränkische Studien (wie in Nr. 4), Seite 29 Anmerkung, gar als Schwager Karl Martells ansehen und H. Schreibmüller, 'Die Ahnen Kaiser Konrads II. (Herbipolis jubilans, Würzburg 1952), Seite 201, jenen wiederum in das bekannte Geschlecht der WIDONEN einordnen dürfte. Sichere Anhaltspunkte hierfür liegen jedoch keineswegs vor.

oo Karl Martell

um 688-15. oder 22.10.741

Kinder:

1. Bernhard, vor 732- 787

2. Hieronymus

3. Remigius Bischof von Rouen (755-771), -771

4. Aldana, oo Theoderich Graf von Autun

Literatur:

Konecny Silvia: Die Frauen des karolingischen Königshauses. Die politische Bedeutung der Ehe und die Stellung der Frau in der fränkischen Herrscherfamilie vom 7. bis zum 10. Jahrhundert. Dissertation der Universität Wien 1976, Seite 54

Schieffer Rudolf: Die Karolinger. W. Kohlhammer GmbH Stuttgart Berlin Köln 1992, Seite 40 --------------------------------

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Bernard Carolingian ... [1]

Occupation

Occupation: Duke of Franks; Count and Abbot of Saint-Quentin Note

Note: @N7653@ @N7653@ NOTE Married a daughter of Charibert of Laon. Note

Profession : Comte & Abbé de Saint-Quentin Note

Note: Younger brother of Pepin the Short (Weis). Name

Name: Bernhard /?/ Birth

Date: ABT 720 DATE AFT 714 Marriage Source: #S617 Death Date: ABT 784 Sources

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http://www.our-royal-titled-noble-and-commoner-ancestors.com/p322.htm#i9665


Regarding the immediate family of Count Bernard:

Wala was born as a son of a Saxon woman and Count Bernard who was a brother of Pepin the Third and a natural son of Charles Martel. Wala was the first cousin of Charlemagne and a half brother of Adalard the Younger, who served as abbot of Corbie until 826. Wala also had a full brother named Bernarius, and two sisters Gundrada and Theodrada, abbess of Notre-Dame de Soissons. In Wala’s early years, he had been brought up in the school of the royal Palace with his brother Adalard the Younger. At Court, both Wala and his brother Adalard were known as being honest, honorable and zealous. As a youth, Wala incurred the temporary disapproval of his cousin Charles. In 792, it has been supposed that he was in some way involved with the conspiracy of Charles son’, Pepin the hunchback. As a result, he was banned from court and forced to live under the close watch of some of the loyal magnates. During this time, it is presumed that he married daughter of William, count of Toulouse, Rothlindis, and Wala became a brother in-law of Bernard of Barcelona. He was widowed before he became a monk in 814. In his early years, Wala regained royal favor. During Charlemagne’s rule, he rose to become the Emperor’s second-in-command. Charlemagne appears to have appointed his cousin Wala to oversee administration on Saxony, just as he had elevated his brother in law Gerold in Bavaria. During his rule Charlemagne appears to have relied confidently on his capable cousins, including Adalard, Bernarius and Wala.

Source: Wikipedia Added by Janet Milburn 5/18/18

Om Bernard, duc de Saint Quentin (Norsk)

Kilde:

  1. http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/FRANKISH%20NOBILITY.htm#Bernarddied787B

A. FAMILIE av ADALHARD og WALA


BERNARD , uekte sønn av CHARLES "Martel" og hans elskerinne Chrothais --- (før 732-787). De Genealogica Arnulfi Comitis navn (i rekkefølge) " Pipinum, Karlomannum, Griphonem et Bernardum " som sønner av " Karolus senior ... ex regina " [10] . Bernards forhold til de karolingiske kongene bekreftes av Einhards Annales som heter " Walanem filium Bernhardi patruelis sui " da han registrerte at han ble sendt til Italia i 812 som verge for " Bernhardum filium Pippin nepotem suum [Karoli imperatoris] " [11] . Royal Frankish Annals registrerer detCharles I, kongen av frankerne, sendte Bernard for å lede en del av sin hær til Italia, gjennom Great St Bernard Pass, som svar på pavens oppfordring om hjelp mot lombardene i 773 [12] . Den Chronicon Moissiacensis registrerer at “ Bernardum avunculum suum ” (henviser til King Charles) ledet en del av hæren “ per Jovis-montem i Italia ”, i 770, men datert til 773 [13] . Den Annales Moselleni registrere død i 787 av " Remigius et Bernehardus " [14] .

m for det første ---. Settipani uttaler at den første kona til Bernard var av frankisk opprinnelse, men siterer ikke kilden som dette er basert på [15] .

m for det andre ---. Settipani uttaler at den andre kona til Bernard var av saksisk opprinnelse, men siterer ikke kilden som dette er basert på [16] .

Bernard og hans første kone hadde ett barn:

1. ADALHARD [I] ([752] -2 jan 826). Den Vita Adalhardi refererer til " Quinque ... Viri propagati ... maior nat Senex noster sanctissimus ", med henvisning til Adalhard, innspilling i en tidligere passasje at han gikk hellige ordrer i en alder av 20 [17] . Selv om passasjen ikke navngir faren til Adalhard, navngir den hans yngre bror " Wala ", hvis far er navngitt i Einhards Annales som registrerer " Walach come filius Bernhardi " [18] . Den Annales Laurissenses posten at kong Charles kom til " Corbonaeum villam " i 771 med ". Selv om det ikke er sikkert at denne " Adalhardus " var sønn av Bernard eller en annen person, er det hittil ikke funnet noen henvisning til en annen samtid med samme navn. Abbé de Corbie 781. En hovedstad av Karl I, Frankrikes konge, daterte juni 800 navn " Adalardo comiti palatio nostri " [20] . " Comiti Hadalhardus, Fulradus, Unrocus seu Hrocculfus " er navngitt som imperial missi i et dokument av keiser Karlemagne datert 806 [21] . Adalhard var lærer for Pepin King of Italy, sønn av Charlemagne, og ble utnevnt til regent for Pepins sønn Bernard King of Italy i 813[22] . Han ble eksilert til Noirmoutier etter Karlemagnes død i 814, men kom tilbake til favør i 821. EinhardsAnnales protokoll at "Adalhardum quoque de Aquitania" ble utnevnt til "Corbeiæ monasterio abbatem" i 821 [23] . Den primære kilden som registrerer datoen for Adalhards død er ennå ikke identifisert.

Bernard og hans andre kone hadde [fem] barn:

2. WALO [Walacho] ([772/73] -Bobbio 31. aug 836). Einhards Annales- plate " Walach come filius Bernhardi " som en av underskriverne for fred med vikingene i 811 [24] . Den Vita Adalhardi refererer til " Quinque ... Viri propagati ... maior nat Senex noster sanctissimus ... ", med henvisning til Adalhard, " ... deinde Wala ... " [25] . Det ser ikke ut til å være noe direkte bevis på at Walo ble født fra farens andre ekteskap, annet enn den indirekte indikasjonen fra den tjue år lange forskjellen mellom de estimerte fødselsdatoene til Walo og Adalhard [I]. En liste over saksere i Ostfalen datert jan / feb 802 registrerer at " Fredegarium filium Wicharii habuit Walah", antagelig antydende at den sistnevnte hadde ansvar for troskapen som ble svoret til keiseren av den førstnevnte [26] . Forutsatt at dette refererer til Walo sønn av Bernard, viser det at han bar titteltellingen først etter denne datoen, som kilden spesifiserer titlene for mange andre personer som er navngitt. Translatio Sancti Viti benevner " Walonem " som " frater prioris Adalhardi " [27] . Sysselmannen. Einhard benevner " Walacho kommer " som et av de 15 vitnene fra testamentet til keiser Charlemagne datert 811 [28] . Einhards Annales registrerer at "Walanem filium Bern patruelis sui "ble sendt til Italia i 812 som verge for" Bernhardum filium Pippin nepotem suum [Karoli imperatoris] " [29] . Den Vita Hludowici Imperatoris navn" Walam et Warnarium, necnon et Lambertum sed et Ingobertum "som Missi [ i 813], og registrerte at " Warnarius kommer ... accito nepote Lantberto " handlet uten viten om " Wala et Ingelberto " [30] . Walo ble munk i [814/15] etter keiseren Charlemagnees død. Einhards Annales registrerte at keiseren Louis jeg sendte "Walahum monachum propinquum suum [imperatoris] fratrem ... Adalhardi abbatis "til Italia i 822 med" Hlotharius ... filium suum " [31] . Abbé de Corbie 826-836, i rekkefølge etter broren. Han ble abbed av Bobbio i Italia i 836. de Vita Hludowici Imperatoris poster som " Wala Corbeiensis Abbas, Matfridus, Hugo, Lantbertus, Godefridus, itemque FILIUS eius Godefridus, Agimbertus kommer Pertensis ... sed et Richardus " døde mellom " Kal september usque annonse missam Sancti Martini " [i 836] [32] . m ---. Ingen eksplisitte henvisninger til kona til Walo er hittil funnet i primære kilder. Vita Wala- navnene "sceleratus Naso… Amisarius "ved innspilling av Walos utnyttelser i Spania, uttaler at Walo giftet seg med" sororem ipsius, filiam nobilissimi viri ... ", og legger til at broren hennes ble blind [33] . Settipani siterer kilder som fra disse referansene identifiserer Walos kone som søsteren til Bernard Marquis de Septimanie og Heribert (som ble blendet) og derfor datter av St. Guillaume Comte de Toulouse. Hvis vi antar at denne identifikasjonen er riktig, eliminerer Settipani Helmburgis fra de kjente døtrene til Guillaume, og antyder at hun døde ung , samt Gerberga, som ble myrdet i 834 i Chalon av allierte av Walo, som etterlater Chrodlindis [Rothlindis], datter av [St] Guillaume Comte de Toulouse,som eneste mulighet[34] . Koblingen er troverdig, men er ikke uten tvil, spesielt på grunn av usikkerhetene om foreldrene til Heribert som er omtalt nedenfor. Walo og kona hadde ett barn:

a) BERTRUDIS (-13 aug


). Nekrologien i klosteret Saint-Germain-des-Prés registrerer døden " Id Aug " av " Bertrut filia Walonis comitis " [35] .

3. GUNDRADA . Den Vita Adalhardi navn " Quibus ... soror [eius] Gundrada ", denne teksten følgende avsnittet som poster " Quinque ... Viri propagati ... " [36] . I følge Settipani ble Gundrada en nonne i 814, men han siterer ikke den primære kilden som dette er basert på [37] .

4. BERNHAR ([776] -after 821). Bernhar er navngitt som bror til Adalhard i de kongelige franske annaler[38] . DenVita Adalhardirefererer til "reliqui ... duo ... Bernarius noster ... et Theodrada soror eius", denne teksten følgende avsnittet som poster "Quinque ... Viri propagati ..." [39] . Munk på Corbie 801. Han bodde i eksil med broren Walo i 821, men ble tilbakekalt og restaurert til Corbie [40] . EinhardsAnnalesregistrerer at "Adalhardum quoque de Aquitania" ble utnevnt til "Corbeiæ monasterio abbatem" i 821 og at "Bernharium frater eius" returnerte til klosteret på samme tid [41] .

5. THEODERADA . De De Sancto Ratberto Abbate Corbeiensi navnene " Thedradam Apud Sanctam Mariam Suessionis abbatissam ... Adalardi et Wale sororem " [42] . De Vita Adalhardi navnene " Bernarius ... et Theodrada soror eius ", denne teksten følgende avsnittet som registrerer " Quinque ... Viri forplante ... " [43] . I følge Settipani ble Theodrada en nonne i 814, men han siterer ikke den primære kilden som dette er basert på [44] . Abbess av Sainte-Marie de Soissons. m ---. Navnet på mannen til Theoderada er ikke kjent.

a) IMMA . Settipani navngir Imma som datter av Theoderada, og registrerte at hun etterfulgte sin mor som abbedess for Sainte-Marie de Soissons, men siterer ikke kilden som dette er basert på [45] .

6. [ IDA . De Vita Sancti IDAE navn Ida som eneste datter av en ikke navngitt count [46] , innledningen til MGH SS utgaven siterer " annalibus Corbeiensibus i Bibliotheca Regia " som navn Ida som " Adalhard et Walæ soror, Uxor Egberti quem Brunonis Angrariorum principis filium fuisse ", og kommenterte at hun døde i alderen 100 [47] . Hun er ikke navngitt som søsteren til Adalhard i Vita Adalhardi . m EKBERT , sønn av BRUNO & hans kone ---.]

'Bernard of Heristal, son of Charles Martel of The Franks and Ruodhaid, was born 725 in Herstal, Liège, Belgium. He was comte et abbé de st-quentin and comte, abbé by profession. He got married with Unknown of Laon, daughter of Charibert of Laon and ???

They had 2 children:

• Thiedrada • Théodrade of Herstal

Bernard died 787 in Toulouse-Le-Château, Jura, Franche-Comté, France

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Ben M. Angel's summary:

Relationships:

Parents: Charles Martel and his mistress Chrothrais (Ruadtrud, Ruadheid)

Spouse 1: Unknown Frankish woman:

Children 1: Adalhard I (c.752-826), Abbot of Corbie (731-826)

Spouse 2: Unknown Saxon woman:

Children 2:

1. Walo/Walacho (772/773 - 836), Abbot of Corbie (826-836)

2. Gundrada, nun in 814

3. Bernhar (c.776-c821), monk at Corbie

4. Theoderada, Abbess at St-Marie-de-Soissons

5. Ida or Ingeltrude, m. Ekbert

Basic information justification:

Name: Bernard, son of Charles Martel (he was a comte, but his territory wasn't defined, he also was a military leader in Charlemagne's campaign against the Lombards)

Birth c.732, somewhere in Neustria (father was defending region from Muslim invasion in Poitiers around time of birth)

Death 784, somewhere in Austrasia (death was recorded in the Annales Mosellani - a yearbook published in Metz, along with brother Remigius, who was Bishop in Rouen, both on the Austrasian side of the Neustria-Austrasia frontier).

Marriages, based on children's birth dates:

Frankish woman, sometime around 750

Saxon woman: sometime around 770

Locations: somewhere in the Carolingian Empire.

Alternate names: Bernard, Bernaud, Bernhard,

Offices: Comte, military leader in Lombard campaign

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From the Foundation for Medieval Genealogy page on Merovingian Nobility (covering his birth family):

http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/FRANKSMaiordomi.htm#_Toc184117352

CHARLES “Martel”, son of PEPIN [II] "le Gros" or "d'Herstal" & his second [wife] Chalpais [Alpais] ([690]-Quierzy-sur-Oise, Aisne 16 or 22 Oct 741, bur église de l'abbaye royale de Saint Denis).

The Chronicon Moissiacense names "Karolum" as son of "Pippinus præfatus princeps…ex alia uxore nomine Alpaigde"[151].

He was imprisoned by his father's first wife after his father died[152]. However, the Neustrians revolted against Plectrudis, Charles escaped, was at first defeated by the Neustrians, but won the battle of Amblève, near Liège, in 716. He was victorious at Vinchy, near Cambrai, 28 May 717 after which Chilperic II King of Neustria fled with his maior domus, leaving Charles unchallenged to succeed as maior domus in Austrasia.

"Karolus" donated his part in "villa Bollane" to "monasterium Efternacum" by charter dated dated 23 Feb 717, which names "genitore meo Pippino"[153].

He conquered the Saxons in 718 and the Frisians in 719 when he captured Utrecht. He conquered the Neustrians, together with their ally Eudes Duke of Aquitaine, in 719.

He released and recognised King Chilperic II, becoming maior domus in Neustria.

"Theudericus rex Francorum" confirmed a donation to the abbey of St Denis on the request of "Carlo maiorem domus nostro" by charter dated 1 Mar 723[154].

He defeated the Muslim invaders, under Abd-al-Rahman bin Abd Allah al-Ghafiqi [Governor of Andalucía], at Moussais near Poitiers 25 Oct 732. The dating of the various Muslim incursions in southern France in the 720s/730s is discussed in the Histoire Générale de Languedoc[155].

He extended his authority to other French provinces: Hunald Duke of the Aquitanians swore allegiance to him in 736, he subjugated Burgundy and Provence in 736-738. In 737, he omitted to nominate a successor on the death of King Theoderic IV, signalling the effective end of the Merovingian monarchy.

The Annales Sancti Amandi record the death "741 Id Oct" of "Karolus dux Francorum"[156]. The necrology of the abbey of Saint-Denis records the death "XVII Kal Nov" of "Karolus princeps"[157]. The Continuator of Fredegar records the same date for his death and his burial place[158].

m firstly CHROTHRUDIS, daughter of --- ([690]-[724/25]).

The Annales Laureshamenses record the death in 724 of "Hortrudis"[159]. The Annales Mosellani record the death in 725 of "Chrothrud"[160].

Settipani quotes a name list in the Liber confraternitatum augiensis which reads in part "Karolus maior domus, Pippin rex…Karolus imperator…Ruadtrud, Ruadheid, Svanahild regina, Bertha regina, Hiltikart regina, Fastrat regina, Liutkart regina…"[161]. He makes the obvious links between "Karolus maior domus…Svanahild regina", "Pippin rex…Bertha regina" and "Karolus imperator…Hiltikart regina, Fastrat regina, Liutkart regina", deducing that "Ruadtrud, Ruadheid" must also be linked logically to "Karolus maior domus" because of the order in which the names are listed. The primary source which specifically names the first wife of Charles "Martel" has not been identified.

m secondly (725) SUANACHILDIS [Suanhilde], niece of ODILO Duke of Bavaria, daughter of --- (-after 17 Sep 741).

The precise parentage of Suanachildis is not known. The Continuator of Fredegar records that "matrona quondam…Beletrude et nepta sua Sunnichilde" were captured and taken to Austrasia by Charles "Martel" in [724/25][162]. Einhard names "Swannhilde neptem Odilonis ducis Baioariorum" as the mother of Grifo[163]. The precise relationship between Suanhilde and Pilitrude, who was the wife in turn of the brothers Grimoald and Theodoald, has not been identified.

She instigated the marriage of her stepdaughter to Odilo Duke of Bavaria according to the Continuator of Fredegar[164].

After the death of her husband, she incited her son to rebel against her stepsons. She was defeated and sent to the monastery of Chelles, Seine-et-Marne. "Karlus maiorum domus filius Pippini quondam" donated property "villa Clippiacum in pago Parisiaco" to the abbey of St Denis by charter dated 17 Sep 741, subscribed by "Radberti comitis, Raygaubaldi comitis, Salaconis comitis, matrone Sonechildis, Grifonis filii sui"[165].

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Mistress (1): CHROTHAIS, daughter of ---.

Settipani quotes a name list in the Liber confraternitatum augiensis, quoted above under Chrothrudis first wife of Charles "Martel", concluding that "Ruadtrud, Ruadheid" must be linked logically to "Karolus maior domus" because of the order in which the names are listed[166].

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Mistress (2): ---.

The name of the second mistress of Charles "Martel" is not known.

Charles "Martel" & his first wife had three children:

1. CARLOMAN ([705/10]-4 Dec 754, bur Vienne, Isère).

Einhard names "Karlomannum…et Pippinum atque Grifonem" as the three sons of "Karlus maior domus" when recording the latter's death[167]. The Genealogica Arnulfi Comitis names (in order) "Pipinum, Karlomannum, Griphonem et Bernardum" sons of "Karolus senior…ex regina"[168]. "Karlomanni filii eius" subscribed the charter dated 1 Jan 722 under which "Karolus maiorum domus filius Pippini quondam" donated property "castrum…Fethna sitam in pago Nifterlaco" to the monastery "infra muros Traiecto castro"[169].

He succeeded his father as maior domus, jointly with his brother Pepin. They deprived their half-brother Grifo of his inheritance, and defeated him after he rebelled against them. In the division of territories agreed with his brother, Carloman governed Austrasia, Alemannia, Thuringia and northern Alsace. The brothers were faced with revolts in Frisia, Bavaria, Alemannia and Aquitaine.

As a symbolic assertion of their authority, they nominated Childeric III as [Merovingian] king in 743. Einhard records that "Karlomannus" was in Saxony at "castrum Hohseoburg" and there accepted the surrender of "Theodericum Saxonem illius loci primarium" in 743[170]. "Childerichus rex Francorum" with "Karolomanno maiores domus, rectori palatio nostro" confirmed donations to the monastery of Stablo and Malmedy by charter dated Jul 744[171].

In 745, Carloman's brother Pepin appropriated the province of Alemannia for himself. Carloman reasserted his authority with an expedition against the Alemans in 746, massacring the leaders who had betrayed him to his brother. This triggered the defection of his other supporters, and Carloman relinquished power.

The Chronicon Sancti Medardi Suessionensis records that “Carlomannus frater Pippini junioris” became a monk in 745 and that “Pippinus junior parvus frater eius” obtained the whole of “Principatum Francorum”[172].

The Royal Frankish Annals record that, after 15 Aug 747, he left for Rome, where he built the monastery of St Sylvester on Monte Soracte before moving to the monastery of St Benedict at Monte Cassino where he became a monk[173]. He returned to France in 753 to oppose the request by Pope Stephen III (II) for Frankish help against the Lombards[174].

The Annales Moselleni record the death in 754 of "Karlamannus"[175].

m ---. The name of Carloman's wife is not known.

Carloman & his wife had [three or more] children (including Drogo 730/35 - after 753).

2. PEPIN [III] (715-Saint-Denis 24 Sep 768, bur église de l'abbaye royale de Saint Denis).

Einhard names "Karlomannum…et Pippinum atque Grifonem" as the three sons of "Karlus maior domus" when recording the latter's death[178]. The Genealogica Arnulfi Comitis names (in order) "Pipinum, Karlomannum, Griphonem et Bernardum" sons of "Karolus senior…ex regina"[179].

He succeeded his father as maior domus jointly with his brother Carloman. He succeeded in 751 as PEPIN “le Bref” King of the Franks.

3. CHILTRUDIS [Hiltrude] (-754, bur Hostenhoven, Kloster Gengenbach).

The Continuator of Fredegar names "Chiltrudis" as daughter of Charles "Martel", stating that her "wicked stepmother" incited her to joined Odilo of Bavaria whom she married without the permission of her brothers[180].

After the death of her husband, she was regent in Bavaria for her son Duke Tassilo III. The Annales Moselleni record the death in 754 of "Hildtrud"[181].

m (741) ODILO Duke of Bavaria [Agilolfinger], son of --- (-18 Jan 748, bur Hostenhoven, Kloster Gengenbach). His brother-in-law Carloman invaded Bavaria, and Odilo was forced to recognise Frankish suzerainty in 744.

Charles "Martel" & his [first/second wife/mistress] had two possible children:

4. [LANDRADA .

Settipani quotes an Aquitaine necrology which lists "Willelmus…pater eius Theodericus, mater Aldana soror Hiltrudis et Landradæ"[182]. He suggests that "Hiltrudis" was the wife of Odilo Duke of Bavaria, and therefore that all three sisters were daughters of Charles "Martel". The theory is attractive but not conclusive, as its validity depends on there being no other contemporary Hiltrudis, which is not provable. If it is correct, there is no indication about the mother of Landrada and Aldana.

Hlawitschka highlights the case against the affiliation[183]. However, the evidence of the 25 May 765 charter, quoted below, suggests that Settipani´s hypothesis may be correct.]

same person as …? LANDRADA . The Gesta Episcoporum Mettensis names "Chrodegangus antistes…ex pago Hasbaniensi oriundus, patre Sigramno, matre Landrada, Francorum ex genere primæ nobilitatis progenitus" as Bishop of Metz[184]. The co-identity between Landrada, wife of Sigramnus, and Landrada, supposed daughter of Charles "Martel" is suggested by the charter dated 25 May 765 under which "Grodegangus…archiepiscopus" [son of Sigramnus and Landrada] donated property "in pago Wormacensi…[et] in villa Dagosbesher…in Hostoven, Burdus, in villa Flamersheim ecclesiam" to Gorze, with the consent of "Pipini…Francorum regis, avunculi mei"[185].

m SIGRAMNUS, son of ---.

5. [ALDANA .

Settipani quotes an Aquitaine necrology which lists "Willelmus…pater eius Theodericus, mater Aldana soror Hiltrudis et Landradæ"[186]. He suggests that "Hiltrudis" was the wife of Odilo Duke of Bavaria, and therefore that all three sisters were daughters of Charles "Martel". The theory is attractive but not conclusive, as its validity depends on there being no other contemporary Hiltrudis, which is not provable. If it is correct, there is no indication about the mother of Landrada and Aldana.

Hlawitschka highlights the case against the affiliation[187]. However, the evidence of the 25 May 765 charter, quoted above under Aldana´s supposed sister Landrada, suggests that Settipani´s hypothesis may be correct.

In addition, Einhard indicates that Theoderic [I] was related to Charles I King of the Franks when he records that in 782 King Charles sent his three missi "Adalgiso camerario et Geilone comite stabuli et Worado comite palati" to meet "in…Saxonis…Theodericus comes, propinquus regis"[188]. One possible relationship being between the king and Theoderic [I] would have been through his wife, if she had been the king's paternal aunt.

"Willelmus…comes" names "genitore meo Theuderico et genitrice mea Aldana" in his charter dated 14 Dec 804 (version two: dated 15 Dec 804) for the foundation of the monastery of Gellone[189].

m THEODERIC [I] Comte d'Autun, son of --- (-before 804).]

Charles "Martel" & his second wife had one child:

6. GRIFO ([726]-killed in battle Saint Jean de Maurienne 753).

Einhard names "Karlomannum…et Pippinum atque Grifonem" as the three sons of "Karlus maior domus" when recording the latter's death, specifying that "Grifo…minor natu…matrem habuit Swannhilde neptem Odilonis ducis Baioariorum"[190]. The Genealogica Arnulfi Comitis names (in order) "Pipinum, Karlomannum, Griphonem et Bernardum" sons of "Karolus senior…ex regina"[191]. "Karlus maiorum domus filius Pippini quondam" donated property "villa Clippiacum in pago Parisiaco" to the abbey of Saint-Denis by charter dated 17 Sep 741, subscribed by "Radberti comitis, Raygaubaldi comitis, Salaconis comitis, matrone Sonechildis, Grifonis filii sui"[192].

His father bequeathed to Grifo the central part of his territory, but his stepbrothers Carloman and Pepin deprived him of this inheritance and split the land between themselves. Grifo rebelled, incited by his mother, but was defeated at Laon and imprisoned by Carloman at Neufchâteau in the Ardennes[193].

He was released in 747 by his brother Pepin and fled to Saxony, where he raised an army although armed conflict was avoided[194]. He invaded Bavaria where he was recognised as Duke in 748 in succession to Duke Odilo, but was deposed by Pepin who installed their nephew Tassilo III as duke.

According to the Royal Frankish Annals, in 748 Pepin granted Grifo the duchy of Mans and 12 counties in Neustria, although the source does not identify these counties more precisely[195]. The Continuator of Fredegar records that in 748 "germanus ipsius rege…Gripho" fled once more and allied himself with Waifar Duke of the Aquitanians[196]. Grifo rebelled yet again, in alliance with the Bretons.

He fled to Lombardy to join Aistulf King of the Lombards but was caught and killed while he was passing the Alps by "Theudoeno comite Viennense…et Frederico Ultraiurano comite"[197], two of Pepin's supporters. His escape to Italy, capture and death at the hands of "Theodoino comite in valle Maurienna" is also recorded in the Annales Laurissenses[198].

m ---. The name of Grifo's wife is not known.

Grifo & his wife had [two possible] children: Grifo and Charles.

Charles "Martel" had one illegitimate son by Mistress (1):

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7. BERNARD (before 732-787).

The Genealogica Arnulfi Comitis names (in order) "Pipinum, Karlomannum, Griphonem et Bernardum" as sons of "Karolus senior…ex regina"[201].

Comte.

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Charles "Martel" had two illegitimate sons by Mistress (2):

8. HIERONYMUS (-after [782]).

The Genealogica Arnulfi Comitis names (in order) "Remigium et Geronimum" as sons of "Karolus senior…ex concubina"[202]. Comte. Abbé de Saint-Quentin.

9. REMIGIUS (-787).

The Genealogica Arnulfi Comitis names (in order) "Remigium et Geronimum" as sons of "Karolus senior…ex concubina"[203]. Bishop of Rouen 755-771. The Annales Moselleni record the death in 787 of "Remigius et Bernehardus"[204].

References:

[151] Chronicon Moissiacense 713, MGH SS I, p. 289.

[152] Fredegar (Continuator), 8, MGH SS rer Merov II, p. 173.

[153] MGH Diplomatum Imperii I, Diplomata Maiorum Domum, no. 7, p. 96.

[154] MGH Diplomatum Imperii I, Diplomata Regum Francorum, no. 93, p. 82.

[155] Devic, Dom C., Dom Vaissete, Dulaurier, E. (1875) Histoire générale de Languedoc, 3rd Edn. (Toulouse), Tome II, Note LXXXIV, p. 204.

[156] Annales Sancti Amandi Continuatio 741, MGH SS 1, p. 10.

[157] Obituaires de Sens Tome I.1, Abbaye de Saint-Denis, p. 328.

[158] Fredegar (Continuator), 24, MGH SS rer Merov II, p. 1179.

[159] Annales Laureshamenses, MGH SS I, p. 24.

[160] Annales Mosellani, MGH SS XVI, p. 494.

[161] Settipani, C. 'L'apport de l'onomastique dans l'étude des genealogies carolingiennes', Keats-Rohan, K. S. B. and Settipani, C. (eds.) (2000) Onomastique et Parenté dans l'Occident medieval (Prosopographica et Genealogica, Vol. 3), pp. 167-8, quoting Liber confraternitatum augiensis, MGH Lib Confr II, 460, p. 292.

[162] Fredegar (Continuation), 12, MGH SS rer Merov II, p. 175.

[163] Annales Einhardi 741, MGH SS I, p. 135.

[164] Fredegar (Continuator), 25, MGH SS rer Merov II, p. 180.

[165] MGH Diplomatum Imperii I, Diplomata Maiorum Domum, no. 14, p. 101.

[166] Settipani, pp. 167-8, quoting Liber confraternitatum augiensis, MGH Lib Confr II, 460, p. 292.

[167] Annales Einhardi 741, MGH SS I, p. 135.

[168] Genealogiæ Comitum Flandriæ, Witgeri Genealogica Arnulfi Comitis MGH SS IX, p. 302.

[169] MGH Diplomatum Imperii I, Diplomata Maiorum Domum, no. 11, p. 98.

[170] Annales Einhardi 743, MGH SS I, p. 135.

[171] MGH Diplomatum Imperii I, Diplomata Regum Francorum, no. 97, p. 87.

[172] Chronica Sancti Medardi Suessionensis, Spicilegium II, p. 487.

[173] Scholz, B. W. with Rogers, B. (2000) Carolingian Chronicles: Royal Frankish Annals and Nithard's Histories (University of Michigan Press) (“RFA”), 746, p. 38.

[174] RFA 753, p. 40.

[175] Annales Moselleni 754, MGH SS XVI, p. 495.

[178] Annales Einhardi 741, MGH SS I, p. 135.

[179] Genealogiæ Comitum Flandriæ, Witgeri Genealogica Arnulfi Comitis MGH SS IX, p. 302.

[180] Fredegar (Continuator), 25, MGH SS rer Merov II, p. 180.

[181] Annales Moselleni 754, MGH SS XVI, p. 495.

[182] Settipani (1993), p. 173, quoting Mabillon Acta Sanctorum ord. s. Ben. IV 1, p. 71.

[183] Hlawitschka, E. 'Die Vorfahren Karls des Großen', Beumann, H. (ed.) (1965) Karl der Große (Düsseldorf), pp. 76-78, cited in Settipani (1993), p. 174.

[184] Pauli Gesta Episcoporum Mettensis , MGH SS II, p. 267.

[185] Calmet, A. (1748) Histoire de Lorraine (Nancy), Tome II, Preuves, col. cv.

[186] Settipani (1993), p. 173, quoting Mabillon Acta Sanctorum ord. s. Ben. IV 1, p. 71.

[187] Hlawitschka, E. 'Die Vorfahren Karls des Großen', Beumann, H. (ed.) (1965) Karl der Große (Düsseldorf), pp. 76-78, cited in Settipani (1993), p. 174.

[188] Einhardi Annales 782, MGH SS I, p. 163.

[189] Reproduced in Thomassy, R. 'Critique des deux chartes de foundation de l'abbaye de Saint-Guillem-du-Désert', Bibliothèque de l'Ecole des Chartes, Série 1, Tome II (Paris 1840-1844), p. 179.

[190] Annales Einhardi 741, MGH SS I, p. 135.

[191] Genealogiæ Comitum Flandriæ, Witgeri Genealogica Arnulfi Comitis MGH SS IX, p. 302.

[192] MGH Diplomatum Imperii I, Diplomata Maiorum Domum, no. 14, p. 101.

[193] RFA 741, p. 37.

[194] RFA 747, p. 38.

[195] RFA 748, p. 39.

[196] RFA 748, p. 39.

[197] Fredegar (Continuator), 35, MGH SS rer Merov II, p. 183.

[198] Annales Laurissenses minores 755, 14, MGH SS I, p. 116.

[201] Genealogiæ Comitum Flandriæ, Witgeri Genealogica Arnulfi Comitis MGH SS IX, p. 302.

[202] Genealogiæ Comitum Flandriæ, Witgeri Genealogica Arnulfi Comitis MGH SS IX, p. 302.

[203] Genealogiæ Comitum Flandriæ, Witgeri Genealogica Arnulfi Comitis MGH SS IX, p. 302.

[204] Annales Moselleni 787, MGH SS XVI, p. 495.


From the Foundation for Medieval Genealogy page on Carolingian Nobility:

http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/FRANKISH%20NOBILITY.htm#Bernarddied787B

BERNARD, illegitimate son of CHARLES "Martel" & his mistress Chrothais (before 732-787).

The Genealogica Arnulfi Comitis names (in order) "Pipinum, Karlomannum, Griphonem et Bernardum" as sons of "Karolus senior…ex regina"[10]. Bernard's relationship to the Carolingian kings is confirmed by Einhard's Annales which name "Walanem filium Bernhardi patruelis sui" when recording that he was sent to Italy in 812 as guardian for "Bernhardum filium Pippin nepotem suum [Karoli imperatoris]"[11].

Charles I King of the Franks sent Bernard as head of part of his army to Italy, through the Great St Bernard Pass, in response to the Pope's call for help against the Lombards in 773[12]. The Chronicon Moissiacensis records that “Bernardum avunculum suum” (referring to King Charles) led part of the army “per Jovis-montem in Italia”, in 770 but dated to 773[13].

The Annales Moselleni record the death in 787 of "Remigius et Bernehardus"[14].

m firstly ---. Settipani states that the first wife of Bernard was of Frankish origin but does not cite the source on which this is based[15].

m secondly ---. Settipani states that the second wife of Bernard was of Saxon origin but does not cite the source on which this is based[16].

Bernard & his first wife had one child:

1. ADALHARD [I] ([752]-2 Jan 826).

The Vita Adalhardi refers to "quinque…viri propagati…maior natu senex noster sanctissimus", referring to Adalhard, recording in an earlier passage that he entered holy orders at the age of 20[17]. Although the passage does not name Adalhard's father, it names his younger brother "Wala" whose father is named in Einhard's Annales which record "Walach comes filius Bernhardi"[18].

The Annales Laurissenses record that King Charles came to "Corbonaeum villam" in 771 with "Wilcharius archiepiscopus et Folradus capellanus…Warinus et Adalhardus comites"[19]. Although it is not certain that this "Adalhardus" was the son of Bernard or a different person, no reference to another contemporary of the same name has so far been found.

Abbé de Corbie 781.

A Capitulum of Charles I King of the Franks dated Jun 800 names "Adalardo comiti palatio nostri"[20]. "Comiti Hadalhardus, Fulradus, Unrocus seu Hrocculfus" are named as imperial missi in a document of Emperor Charlemagne dated 806[21].

Adalhard was tutor of Pepin King of Italy, son of Charlemagne, and was appointed regent for Pepin's son Bernard King of Italy in 813[22].

He was exiled to Noirmoutier after the death of Charlemagne in 814, but returned to favour in 821.

Einhard's Annales record that "Adalhardum quoque de Aquitania" was appointed "Corbeiæ monasterio abbatem" in 821[23]. The primary source which records the date of death of Adalhard has not so far been identified.

Bernard & his second wife had [five] children:

2. WALO [Walacho] ([772/73]-Bobbio 31 Aug 836).

Einhard's Annales record "Walach comes filius Bernhardi" as one of the signatories of peace with the Vikings in 811[24]. The Vita Adalhardi refers to "quinque…viri propagati…maior natu senex noster sanctissimus…", referring to Adalhard, "…deinde Wala…"[25].

There does not appear to be any direct proof that Walo was born from his father's second marriage, other than the indirect indication from the 20 year difference between the estimated birth dates of Walo and Adalhard [I].

A list of Saxons in Ostphalia dated Jan/Feb 802 records that "Fredegarium filium Wicharii habuit Walah", presumably indicating that the last named had responsibility for the allegiance sworn to the emperor by the first-named[26]. Assuming that this refers to Walo son of Bernard, it shows that he bore the title count only after this date, as the source specifies the titles in the case of many other individuals named. The Translatio Sancti Viti names "Walonem" as "frater prioris Adalhardi"[27].

Governor of Saxony.

Einhard names "Walacho comes" as one of the 15 witnesses of the testament of Emperor Charlemagne dated 811[28]. Einhard's Annales record that "Walanem filium Bernhardi patruelis sui" was sent to Italy in 812 as guardian for "Bernhardum filium Pippin nepotem suum [Karoli imperatoris]"[29]. The Vita Hludowici Imperatoris names "Walam et Warnarium, necnon et Lambertum sed et Ingobertum" as missi [in 813], recording that "Warnarius comes…accito nepote Lantberto" acted without the knowledge of "Wala et Ingelberto"[30].

Walo became a monk in [814/15] following the death of Emperor Charlemagne. Einhard's Annales record that Emperor Louis I sent "Walahum monachum propinquum suum [imperatoris] fratrem…Adalhardi abbatis" to Italy in 822 with "Hlotharius…filium suum"[31].

Abbé de Corbie 826-836, in succession to his brother.

He became Abbot of Bobbio in Italy in 836. The Vita Hludowici Imperatoris records that "Wala Corbeiensis abbas, Matfridus, Hugo, Lantbertus, Godefridus, itemque filius eius Godefridus, Agimbertus comes Pertensis…sed et Richardus" died between "Kal Sep usque ad missam sancti Martini" [in 836][32].

m ---. No explicit reference to the wife of Walo has so far been found in primary sources. However, the Vita Wala names "sceleratus Naso…Amisarius" when recording Walo's exploits in Spain, states that Walo married "sororem ipsius, filiam nobilissimi viri…", and that her brother was blinded[33].

Settipani cites sources which, from these references, identify Walo's wife as the sister of Bernard Marquis de Septimanie and Heribert (who was blinded), and therefore daughter of St Guillaume Comte de Toulouse. Assuming that this identification is correct, of the possible candidates Settipani eliminates Helmburgis from the known daughters of Guillaume, suggesting that she died young, as well as Gerberga, who was murdered in 834 at Chalon by allies of Walo, which leaves Chrodlindis [Rothlindis], daughter of [St] Guillaume Comte de Toulouse, as the only possibility[34]. The link is credible but is not without doubt, particularly because of the uncertainties about the parentage of Heribert which are discussed below.

Walo & his wife had one child, Bertrudis.

3. GUNDRADA .

The Vita Adalhardi names "quibus…soror [eius] Gundrada", this text following the paragraph which records "quinque…viri propagati…"[36].

According to Settipani, Gundrada became a nun in 814 but he does not cite the primary source on which this is based[37].

4. BERNHAR ([776]-after 821).

Bernhar is named as brother of Adalhard in the Royal Frankish Annals[38]. The Vita Adalhardi refers to "reliqui…duo…Bernarius noster…et Theodrada soror eius", this text following the paragraph which records "quinque…viri propagati…"[39].

Monk at Corbie 801.

He lived in exile with his brother Walo in 821, but was recalled and restored to Corbie[40]. Einhard's Annales record that "Adalhardum quoque de Aquitania" was appointed "Corbeiæ monasterio abbatem" in 821 and that "Bernharium frater eius" returned to the monastery at the same time[41].

5. THEODERADA .

The De Sancto Ratberto Abbate Corbeiensi names "Thedradam apud Sanctam Mariam Suessionis abbatissam…Adalardi et Wale sororem"[42]. The Vita Adalhardi names "Bernarius…et Theodrada soror eius", this text following the paragraph which records "quinque…viri propagate…"[43].

According to Settipani, Theodrada became a nun in 814 but he does not cite the primary source on which this is based[44].

Abbess of Sainte-Marie de Soissons.

m ---. The name of Theodrada's husband is not known.

6. [IDA .

The Vita Sancti Idæ names Ida as only daughter of an unnamed count[46], the Introduction to the MGH SS edition citing "annalibus Corbeiensibus in bibliotheca Regia" which name Ida as "Adalhard et Walæ soror, uxor Egberti quem Brunonis Angrariorum principis filium fuisse", commenting that she died aged 100[47].

She is not named as the sister of Adalhard in the Vita Adalhardi.

m EKBERT, son of BRUNO & his wife ---.]

References:

[10] Genealogiæ Comitum Flandriæ, Witgeri Genealogica Arnulfi Comitis MGH SS IX, p. 302.

[11] Einhardi Annales 812, MGH SS I, p. 199.

[12] Scholz, B. W. with Rogers, B. (2000) Carolingian Chronicles: Royal Frankish Annals and Nithard's Histories (University of Michigan Press) (“RFA”) 773, p. 49.

[13] Ex Veteri Chronico Moissiacensis seu Musciacensis Cœnobii, RHGF V, p. 69.

[14] Annales Moselleni 787, MGH SS XVI, p. 495.

[15] Settipani, C. and Kerrebrouck, P. van (1993) La préhistoire des Capétiens 481-987, 1ère partie, Mérovingiens, Carolingiens et Robertiens (Villeneuve d'Ascq), p. 355.

[16] Settipani (1993), p. 355.

[17] Vita Adalhardi 32 and 8, MGH SS II, pp. 527 and 525.

[18] Einhardi Annales 811, MGH SS I, p. 198.

[19] Annales Laurissenses 771, MGH SS I, p. 148.

[20] Capitulum pro pago Cenomannico, MGH LL 1, p. 82.

[21] Capitula missorum Dominicorum, MGH LL 1, p. 137.

[22] RFA 812 and 813, p. 95.

[23] Einhardi Annales 821, MGH SS I, p. 208.

[24] Einhardi Annales 811, MGH SS I, p. 198.

[25] Vita Adalhardi 32, MGH SS II, p. 527.

[26] Mandatum de Saxonibus Obsidibus, MGH LL 1, p. 89.

[27] Historia Translationis S. Viti 7, MGH SS II, p. 578.

[28] Einhardi Vita Karoli Imperatoris, MGH SS II, p. 463.

[29] Einhardi Annales 812, MGH SS I, p. 199.

[30] Vita Hludowici Imperatoris 21, MGH SS II, p. 618.

[31] Einhardi Annales 822, MGH SS I, p. 209.

[32] Vita Hludowici Imperatoris 56, MGH SS II, p. 642.

[33] Vita Wala II 8, 9 and 10, MGH SS II, pp. 551-2 and 555.

[34] Settipani (1993), p. 357 footnotes 1132 and 1135.

[36] Vita Adalhardi 33, MGH SS II, p. 527.

[37] Settipani (1993), p. 358.

[38] RFA 821, p. 110.

[39] Vita Adalhardi 33, MGH SS II, p. 527.

[40] RFA 821, p. 110.

[41] Einhardi Annales 821, MGH SS I, p. 208.

[42] De Sancto Ratberto Abbate Corbeiensi , MGH SS XV.I, p. 452.

[43] Vita Adalhardi 33, MGH SS II, p. 527.

[44] Settipani (1993), p. 358.

[46] Vita Sancti Idæ auctore Uffingo Monacho Werthinensi 1, MGH SS II, p. 570.

[47] MGH SS II, p. 569.


From the Wikipedia page of Bernard, son of Charles Martel:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernhard,_son_of_Charles_Martel

Bernard or Bernhard (born c. 720) was a son of Charles Martel by his mistress Ruodhaid. He is an obscure figure, rising out of the mists only to lead half of the Frankish army in his nephew Charlemagne's Lombard campaign. While Charlemagne led his contingent through the pass of Moncenisio, Bernard led his through the Great St. Bernard Pass.

He is known to have had two sons of both disgrace and prominence in the reign of Charlemagne's son Louis the Pious:

1. Adalard, disgraced and then became a steward of Louis the Pious

2. Wala (d. 835), disgraced and then became the chief advisor of Lothair I in his rebellions

3. Ingeltrude, a daughter who was the mistress of King Pippin of Italy and by whom she had King Bernard of Italy.


From the French Wikipedia page on Bernard:

http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernard_(fils_de_Charles_Martel)

Bernard ou Bernhard († 787) est un comte carolingien (Comte de Saint-Quentin), fils de Charles Martel, maire du palais d'Austrasie, de Neustrie et de Bourgogne, et de Chrotais.

En 774, à la demande du pape Adrien Ier, il est envoyé par Charlemagne à la tête d'une armée pour combattre les Lombards. Selon les Annales Mosellani, il meurt en 787 [1].

Avec une première épouse d'origine franque dont on ne connait pas le nom, il a un fils [2] :

1. Adalard (v. 752 † 2 janvier 826), missus dominicus, comte du palais de Charlemagne et abbé de Corbie.

Avec une seconde épouse d'origine saxonne, il a quatre enfants [2] :

1. Wala (v. 772 † 31 août 836), abbé de Corbie

2. Gundrade († ap.814), vierge et religieuse

3. Bernard (v. 776 † ap.821), moine à l'abbaye de Corbie en 801.

4. Théodrada, abbesse de Saint-Marie de Soissons après avoir été mariée et mère d'une fille, Imme, qui lui a ensuite succédé comme abbesse.

In English:

Bernard or Bernaud (d. 787) was a Carolingian count (Comte de Saint-Quentin), and a son of Charles Martel, Mayor of the Palace of Austrasia, Neustria, and Burgundy, and his wife Chrotais.

In 774, at the request of Pope Hadrian I, he was sent by Charlemagne at the head of an army to fight the Lombards. According to the Annales Mosellani, he died in 787 [1].

With his first wife, of whom we do not know the name but we know was of Frankish origin, he had a son [2]:

1. Adalard (c.752 - 2 January 826), Dominicus Missus, Comte of the Palace of Charlemagne and Abbot of Corbie.

With his second wife, of Saxon origin, he had four children [2]:

1. Wala (c.772 - 31 August 836), Abbot of Corbie

2. Gundrade (d. 814), a "virgin nun"

3. Bernard (c.776-821), a monk at the Corbie Monastery as of 801.

4. Theodrada, married unknown and with a daughter, Imme, and then later succeeded as Abbess of Saint-Marie de Soissons

Notes et références

1. ↑ Les Annales Mosellani précisent que « cette année là [787] moururent Remigius et Bernhard ». Bien que Remigius soit mort en 771, il n'y a pas lieu d'écarter l'information pour Bernard (the Annales Mossellani states that "in 787 Remigius and Bernhard died in 771, but there is no reason to exclude the information about Bernhard"). (Settipani 1993, p. 355, note 1118).

2. ↑ La Vita Adalhardi précise que « Bernhard ... engendra cinq enfants : d'abord l'aîné, notre père vénérable (Adalhard) ... puis Wala ... puis Gundrada .. enfin notre Bernhard et sa sœur Theodrada » (The "Vita Adalhard" states that "Bernhard... was the father of five children: the eldest was our venerable father - Adalhard... then Wala... then Gundrada... Bernhard, and finally our sister Theodrada.") (Settipani 1993, p. 355, note 1121).

Bibliographie

Christian Settipani, La Préhistoire des Capétiens (Nouvelle histoire généalogique de l'auguste maison de France, vol. 1), éd. Patrick van Kerrebrouck, 1993 (ISBN 2-9501509-3-4), p. 355-8

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From the Italian Wikipedia page for Bernardo:

http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernardo_(figlio_di_Carlo_Martello)

Bernardo (n. 720 circa) fu un figlio di Carlo Martello e dell'amante Ruodaide.

Egli è una figura oscura, che si distinse per aver guidato metà dell'esercito franco nella campagna longobarda del nipote Carlo Magno; mentre quest'ultimo guidava il suo contingente attraverso il passo del Moncenisio, Bernardo condusse il suo attraverso il Gran San Bernardo.

Egli è ricordato per aver avuto due figli che conobbero la disgrazia, ma anche grande importanza nel regno di Ludovico il Pio, figlio di Carlo Magno:

1. Sant'Adelardo, caduto in disgrazia ed in seguito divenuto maggiordomo di Ludovico il Pio;

2. Wala (m. 835), anch'esso finito in disgrazia e poi divenuto principale consigliere dell'imperatore Lotario I nelle sue ribellioni;

3. Ingeltrude, che fu l'amante di re Pipino d'Italia, dal quale ebbe re Bernardo d'Italia.

(Apparently a direct translation of the English article, with one reference cited.)

Collegamenti esterni

Genealogia di Bernardo (Miroslav Marek's research):

http://genealogy.euweb.cz/carolin/carolin2.html#Char


From the Bulgarian Wikipedia page on Bernhard:

http://bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%91%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%BD%D1%85%D0%B0%D1%80%D0%B4_(%D1%81%D0%B8%D0%BD_%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%9A%D0%B0%D1%80%D0%BB_%D0%9C%D0%B0%D1%80%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB)

In English:

Bernard or Bernhard (720-787) was a Carolingian count. He was the illegitimate son of Charles Martel and Ruodhade, a Saxon woman [1].

Bernhard assisted his nephew Charlemagne in leading a Frankish army in his campaign against the Lombards (773-774) by crossing the Pass of Mont Cenis, which was later named the Great Pass of St. Bernard. In 787, he died.

With a Frankish woman, he had a son:

1. Adalhard (752 - 2 January 826), Abbot of Corbie, Comte du Palais for Charlemagne

With a Saxon woman, he was the father of:

1. Wala (773 - 31 August 836), Abbot of Corbie

2. Gundrada (d. 814)

3. Bernard (776 - 821), Abbot of Corbie

4. Teodrada, Abbess

5. Ingeltrude or Ida

1. ↑ Schreiber, Karl-Heinz (2002). "Ruodhaid-Nebenfrau Karl Martells" (in German). Genealogie Mittelalter. self-published. http://www.mittelalter-genealogie.de/karolinger/ruodhaid_nebenfrau_karl_martells.html


From Karl-Heinz Schreiber's page on Ruodhaid, his mother:

http://www.mittelalter-genealogie.de/karolinger/ruodhaid_nebenfrau_karl_martells.html

Ruodhaid, Nebenfrau Karl Martells

Tochter des N.N.

Hlawitschka Eduard: Seite 78

"Die Vorfahren Karls des Großen"

32 Chrodtrud - (Ruodhaid)

Chrodtrud wird in keiner erzählenden Quelle und in keiner Urkunde ausdrücklich als Gemahlin Karl Martells erwähnt. Da jedoch in der Gruppe der älteren karolingischen Annalen (Ann. Moselani, Ann. Laureshamenses, Ann. Petaviani, Ann. Nazariani), die dem KAROLINGER-Hause bekanntlich sehr nahe stehen, zu 725 Chrothrud mortua bzw. Hrottrudis mortua bzw. Chrotrudis mortitur überliefert wird (MG. SS. 16, Seite 494, MG. SS. 1, Seite 24, 9, 25) und andererseits Karl Martell gerade im nämlichen Jahr 725 von einem Feldzug nach Bayern Swanahild mitbringt, die er dann zur Gemahlin nimmt, hat man seit A. Valesius (1638) und J. Mabillon (1703) geschlossen, daß diese Chrodtrud Karl Martells erste Gemahlin gewesen sein müsse; vgl. H. Hahn, Jahrbücher des Fränkischen Reiches 741-752, Berlin 1863, Seite 1f., und Th. Breysig, Jahrbücher (wie in Nr. 18), Seite 9. Hahn hat außerdem zur Stützung dieser These auf die Wiederholung des Namens Chrodtrud bei einer Tochter KARLS DES GROSSEN hingewiesen.

Alle Zweifel werden meines Erachtens durch einen Eintrag ins Reichenauer Verbrüderungsbuch beseitigt. Dort findet man an der Spitze der Nomina defunctorum, qui presens coenobium sua largitate fundaverunt, die folgenden Namen: Karolus maior domus - Pippin rex - Karlomannus maior domus - Karolus imperator - Karlomannus - Karolus rex - Pippinus rex - Bernardus rex - Ruadtraud - Ruadheid - Suanahil regina - Berhta regina - Hiltikart regina - Fastrat regina - Liutkart regina - Ruadheid (danach Rasur) - Hirminkar regina; MG. Libri confrat., Seite 292, Spalte 460.

Hier handelt es ganz augenscheinlich um Karl Martell, König Pippin, dann dessen älteren Bruder Karlmann, schließlich um KARL DEN GROSSEN und seinen Bruder Karlmann, um KARLS DES GROSSEN Söhne Karl und Pippin sowie KARLS Enkel Bernhard von Italien. Die Frauenreihe ist nach Suanahil regina (!), der zweiten Gemahlin Karl Martells, auch übersichtlich. Es handelt sich um Gemahlinnen einiger der oben angeführten Männer, und zwar um Swanahild (die freilich niemals echte regina war) als zweiter Gemahlin Karl Martells, Berta als Gemahlin König Pippins, Hildegard, Fastrada und Liutgart als Gemahlinnen KARLS DES GROSSEN, Irmingard, die 818 verstorbene Gemahlin des zur Anfertigung des Eintrages noch lebenden LUDWIGS DES FROMMEN, und bei Ruadheid, nach deren Namen man das gleichfalls eingetragene regina wieder tilgte, wohl um die gleichnamige Schwester oder Tochter KARLS DES GROSSEN (nach L. Levllain, La charte de Clotilde [Bibliotheque de l'Ecole des Chartes 105, 1944], Seite 48-63, um die Gemahlin Pippins von Italien; mit der Annahme, daß diese Zusammenstellung von Abt Adalhard von Corbie (Nr. 51) verfertigt sei, geht er jedoch bei seinem Deutungsversuch jedoch von falschen Voraussetzungen aus, wodurch gerade jene Zuweisung hinfällig wird). Da somit in der Liste auch eine generationsmäßige Abfolge eingehalten zu sein scheint, kann die an der Spitze der Frauen stehende Ruadtrud nur mit dem an der Spitze der Männer stehenden Karl Martell in Verbindung gebracht und als Karl Martells erste Gemahlin betrachtet werden. Zumal nun außerdem feststeht, daß Karl Martells Söhne Bernhard, Hieronymus und Remedius/Remigius weder Vollgeschwister Karlmanns und König Pippins (Nr. 45 und 48) noch Vollgeschwister Grifos (Nr 41) waren, Karl Martell also neben der hiermit gesicherten Chrodtrud und neben Swanahild noch eine Nebenfrau gehabt haben muß, wird man nicht fehlgehen, wenn man jene in der an zweiter Stelle unter den Frauender Reichenauer Liste stehenden Ruadheid zu erkennen meint. Dabei darf man darauf verweisen, daß dann der Name Ruadheid auch bei einer Schwester KARLS DES GROSSEN (Nr. 60) sowie bei einer Tochter KARLS DES GROSSEN (Einhard, Vita Karoli c.18) wieder auftaucht. - Auf Chrodtruds Abstammung könnte etwas Licht fallen, wenn man jenen propinquus Karl Martells namens Wido, der Laienabt von St. Wandrille war und 739 wegen Hochverratsabsichten hingerichtet wurde (Gesta abb. Fontanell. c. 11, MG. SS. 2, Seite 284f.), als einen nahen Verwandten Chrodtruds oder mit A. Halbedel, Fränkische Studien (wie in Nr. 4), Seite 29 Anmerkung, gar als Schwager Karl Martells ansehen und H. Schreibmüller, 'Die Ahnen Kaiser Konrads II. (Herbipolis jubilans, Würzburg 1952), Seite 201, jenen wiederum in das bekannte Geschlecht der WIDONEN einordnen dürfte. Sichere Anhaltspunkte hierfür liegen jedoch keineswegs vor.

oo Karl Martell

um 688-15. oder 22.10.741

Kinder:

1. Bernhard, vor 732- 787

2. Hieronymus

3. Remigius Bischof von Rouen (755-771), -771

4. Aldana, oo Theoderich Graf von Autun

Literatur:

Konecny Silvia: Die Frauen des karolingischen Königshauses. Die politische Bedeutung der Ehe und die Stellung der Frau in der fränkischen Herrscherfamilie vom 7. bis zum 10. Jahrhundert. Dissertation der Universität Wien 1976, Seite 54

Schieffer Rudolf: Die Karolinger. W. Kohlhammer GmbH Stuttgart Berlin Köln 1992, Seite 40 --------------------------------

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Led half of the Frankish army in his nephew Charlemagne's Lombard campaign. While Charlemagne led his contingent through the pass of Moncenisio, Bernard led his through the Great St. Bernard Pass. _________________________

Pedigree Resource File

name: Bernard/de Francia/ comte et abbé de St Quentin sexo: male nacimiento: 0730 defunción: 0809

Padres Padre: Charles/de Francia/ madre: /Chrothais Ou Rothaide/

Matrimonios (1) cónyuge: UNKNOWN

	Ocultar hijos (1)

hijo 1: Wala/de Bobbio/ abbé laïc de Corbie sexo: male nacimiento: 0754 defunción: 0836

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SearchFind Matches Duke Bernard Saint-Quentin formerly Carolingian aka de Saint Quentin Born about 0714 in Saint Quentin, Nord, Nord-Pas-de-Calais, Francemap

Son of Charles (Carolingian) Martel and Ruodhaid Unknown Brother of Female Child Of Swanhilde And Karl of Austrasia, Grifo UNKNOWN, UNKNOWN Hildegard, Remigius v. Rouen, Gerniud (Austrasia) Mayence, Carloman of Austrasia, Carloman (Carolingian) Martel, Pepin (Carolingian) Franken, Hieronymous Martel, Chiltrud (of the Franks) Franken, Landree (of the Franks) Hesbaye, Hiltrud Bavaria Austrasia Franks Martel and Aude or Aldana or Audefleda of (des Francs) Autun Husband of Unknown (Laon) De Laon — married [date unknown] [location unknown] Husband of Gundelinda Alsace — married [date unknown] [location unknown] Father of Adalhard UNKNOWN, Thietrade (der Karolingen) van Saksen, Wala Bobbio and Ingletrude (des Francs) van Autun Died about 0809 in Picardie, Francemap Profile managers: Barbara Bonanni private message [send private message], Bob Fields private message [send private message], Roger Travis private message [send private message], Steve VanderLeest private message [send private message], and Jeff Johnson private message [send private message] This page has been accessed 811 times.

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Biography

Bernard Carolingian ... [1]

Occupation

Occupation: Duke of Franks; Count and Abbot of Saint-Quentin Note

Note: @N7653@ @N7653@ NOTE Married a daughter of Charibert of Laon. Note

Profession : Comte & Abbé de Saint-Quentin Note

Note: Younger brother of Pepin the Short (Weis). Name

Name: Bernhard /?/ Birth

Date: ABT 720 DATE AFT 714 Marriage Source: #S617 Death Date: ABT 784 Sources

Source: #S-1968866219 http://trees.ancestry.com/pt/AMTCitationRedir.aspx?tid=2886322&pid=1756247885 Source: #S-1968866219 http://trees.ancestry.com/pt/AMTCitationRedir.aspx?tid=2886322&pid=1756247885 Source S-1968866219 Repository: #R-1969211483 Title: Ancestry Family Trees Repository R-1969211483 Address: http://www.Ancestry.com Source: #S93 Page: Bernard de Saint-Quentin Event: Smart Matching Role: 1003387 Source S93 Record ID Number: MH:S93 User ID: D5BFD6D2-D0CB-41AF-90C6-E38A56AD5A44 Author: Thierry Gandilhon Title: Gandilhon Web Site Text: MyHeritage.com family tree Family site: Gandilhon Web Site Family tree: 0097507-1 Media: 131031-1 Type: Smart Matching Source S617 Abbreviation: Ancestral Roots; Fredrick Weis; Seventh Edition, 1992. Note: Ancestral Roots; Fredrick Weis; Seventh Edition, 1992. Source: S-2087525741 Repository: #R-2142232775 http://trees.ancestry.com/pt/AMTCitationRedir.aspx?tid=27418815&pid=3463 Repository: R-2142232775 Name: Ancestry.com Address: http://www.Ancestry.com Note: Bernard was born in 0725. Bernard van Saint-Quntin ... He passed away after 0787. [2]

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↑ Entered by Vic Watt, Mar 2, 2013 ↑ Entered by Steve VanderLeest, Jun 29, 2013 Acknowledgments

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Biography

Bernhard was born in 0725. Bernhard der Karolingen ... [3]

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Regarding the immediate family of Count Bernard:

Wala was born as a son of a Saxon woman and Count Bernard who was a brother of Pepin the Third and a natural son of Charles Martel. Wala was the first cousin of Charlemagne and a half brother of Adalard the Younger, who served as abbot of Corbie until 826. Wala also had a full brother named Bernarius, and two sisters Gundrada and Theodrada, abbess of Notre-Dame de Soissons. In Wala’s early years, he had been brought up in the school of the royal Palace with his brother Adalard the Younger. At Court, both Wala and his brother Adalard were known as being honest, honorable and zealous. As a youth, Wala incurred the temporary disapproval of his cousin Charles. In 792, it has been supposed that he was in some way involved with the conspiracy of Charles son’, Pepin the hunchback. As a result, he was banned from court and forced to live under the close watch of some of the loyal magnates. During this time, it is presumed that he married daughter of William, count of Toulouse, Rothlindis, and Wala became a brother in-law of Bernard of Barcelona. He was widowed before he became a monk in 814. In his early years, Wala regained royal favor. During Charlemagne’s rule, he rose to become the Emperor’s second-in-command. Charlemagne appears to have appointed his cousin Wala to oversee administration on Saxony, just as he had elevated his brother in law Gerold in Bavaria. During his rule Charlemagne appears to have relied confidently on his capable cousins, including Adalard, Bernarius and Wala.

Source: Wikipedia Added by Janet Milburn 5/18/18

О Bernard, duc de Saint Quentin (русский)

Бернхард (Bernard; Bernhard; * 720; † 787) е граф от Каролингите. Той е незаконен син на Карл Мартел и Руодхайд, една саксонка.[1]

Бернхард помага на франкската войска на племеника си Карл Велики в лангобардската му кампания (773 - 774) и пресича прохода Мон-Сенис, който e кръстен Проход Голям Сен-Бернар. През 787 г. е убит.

С една жена от франките има син:

1. Адалхард (* 752; † 2 януари 826), игумен na Корби, comte du palais при Карл Велики.

С друга жена от саксите е баща на:

1. Вала (* 773; † 31 август 836), игумен na Корби

2. Гундрада († 814)

3. Бернард (* 776 † 821), игумен на Корби

4. Теодрада, игуменка

5. Ингелтруда или Ида

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Bernard, duc de Saint Quentin's Timeline

725
725
Neustria (Present Normandy), Frankish Empire (Present France)
752
752
Age 27
France
755
755
Age 30
France
772
772
Age 47
France
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784
Age 59
Austrasia (Present Lorraine), Frankish Empire (Present France)
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