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Berta d'Ivrea (degli Obertenghi)

Birthdate: (57)
Birthplace: Italy
Death: December 29, 1037 (57)
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Daughter of March. Oberto II, conte di Luni and Rolinda
Wife of Arduin of Ivrea, king of Italy
Mother of Arduino II d'Ivrea, Ardicino; Ottone di Ivrea; Guiberto di Ivrea and Ichilda di Ivrea
Sister of Ugo; March. Adalberto IV; Obizzo degli Obertenghi, margravio della Liguria and Berta degli Obertenghi
Half sister of March. Alberto Azzo I, conte di Luni

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About Berta d'Ivrea

- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bertha,_Queen_of_Italy Her parentage is unknown, but:

  • she is often said to be identical with Bertha of Milan,[1] who was a member of the Obertenghi dynasty. (Treccani & Medlands agree)
  • Other scholars suggest that Bertha may have been the daughter of Hubert of Tuscany[2] or of Amadeus (son of Anscar II)[3]

- http://www.treccani.it/enciclopedia/re-d-italia-arduino_(Dizionario-Biografico)/ Sposò una Berta, molto probabilmente la figlia di Oberto II, marchese della Liguria orientale, dalla quale ebbe tre figli:


- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bertha_of_Milan
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otbert_II,_Margrave_of_Milan :

  • nei Wikipedia del padre in metà delle lingue riportata la tesi che sia una sola Berta.
  • L'altra metà non specifica.
  • MedLands semplicemente le cita al posto 3) e 6) distintamente senza specificazioni.

certo è una bella coincidenza che re Arduino sia costretto ad abdicare e farsi frate in esilio sulle montagne nel 1013.. e una sorella omonima di Berta va in matrimonio nel 1014.. e Arduino muore nel 1015.. ma la ex regina che fine ha fatto? :)

Non c'è nessun documento in MedLands che contraddica la tesi di una sola Berta.. solo la data di nascita c.997 assegnata alla Berta(6) da chi o cosa?

- http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NORTHERN%20ITALY%20900-1100.htm#ObertoIILunidiedafter1013B >>> Oberto [II] & his wife had six children:

3) BERTA . "Ardoinus…rex" confirmed the rights of the church of Como in the bridges and county of Chiavenna "quæ Hicila filia comitis Ottonis in villa Slopence in pago Ratenzgowe et in comitatu Adalberti comitis habuit" by charter dated 25 Mar 1002 which names "Berta regina nostra coniunx nostrique regni consors"[341]. The primary source which confirms her parentage has not yet been identified. m ARDOINO Marchese d'Ivrea, son of DADO Marchese d'Ivrea & his wife [Bertrada ---] (-Fruttuaria Abbey 15 Dec 1015). He was crowned ARDOINO King of Italy at Pavia 15 Feb 1002.

6) BERTA ([997]-[29 Dec 1037/1040]). "Heinricus…imperator" confirmed the property of the abbey of Fruttuaria, referring to property donated by "Manfredus marchio et Berta uxor eius et fratres eiusdem Manfredi, id est Alricus episcopus et Oddo comes, et Ardoinus consobrinus eorum", by charter dated 1014[367]. "Oldericus Maginfredus marchio f. quondam…Maginfredi marchionis et Berta comitissa jugales filia q. Obberti marchionis" sold property "in comitatu Parmensi, Placensiensi, Ticinensi, Tortonensi, Vercellensi, Aquensi, Astensi, Eporediensi, Torinensi, Oradiensi, Albensi, Avigenensi, Aberganensi, Vigintimiliensi" to "Sigifredo presbitero filio q. Adelgisi", with "notitia propinquorum parentum suorum, id est Adalberti marchionis germani sui et Alberti infantis nepotis sui", by charter dated 6 Jun 1021[368]. Her parentage is confirmed by a charter dated 1029 under which "Alricus…Astensis Ecclesiæ Episcopus et Odelricus qui et Magenfridus…Marchio germanus et filii bone memorie itemque Magnifredi…Marchionis, et Berta…Comitissa, jugales, filia quondam Autberti…Marchionis" founded the monastery of Segusini Sancti Justi[369]. She inherited land in the counties of Tortone, Parma and Piacenza[370]. "Odelricus qui et Manfredus marchio f. quondam Manfredi marchionis et Berta comitissa jugales f. quondam Autberti marchionis" granted privileges "in comitatibus Taurinensi, Vercellensi, Iporiensi, Astensi, Albensi, Albiganensi, Vigintimiliensi, Parmensi, Placentinensi, Ticinensi, Aquensi" to the monastery of "S. Mariæ et Ss. Solutoris, Adventoris et Octavii braidam juxta Palatium" by charter dated 1031, signed by "Maginfredi march., Adalberti et Opizzoni utriusque marchionis qui Bertæ germane…Cuniberti et Wilelmi seu marchionis…"[371]. "Chuonradus Romanorum imperator augustus" confirmed donations to the monastery of San Giusto at Susa made by "Mainfredus marchio nec non Berta comitissa", by charter dated 29 Dec 1037[372]. "Adaleida f. quondam Maginfredi marchionis et coniux Ermanni ducis et marchionis" donated property "in loco Porciana" to the monastery of San Stefano at Genoa by charter dated 4 Jul [1038], signed by "Bertæ comitissæ…"[373]. "Heinricus…Romanorum imperator augustus" confirmed the possessions of the church at Asti by undated charter placed in the compilation with other charters dated 1091, which notes among others the donations by "marchio Manfredus et Berta comitissa et Alricus episcopus"[374]. m ([1014]) MANFREDO UDALRICO Marchese di Susa and Turin, son of MANFREDO [I] Marchese of Turin & his wife Prangarda di Canossa (992-Turin 29 Oct 1034, bur Turin, cathedral of San Giovanni).

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980
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Italy
1037
December 29, 1037
Age 58
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Ivrea, Piedmont, Italy