Geoffrey II de Saye, 1st Lord of West Greenwich, Magna Carta Surety

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Geoffrey II de Saye, 1st Lord of West Greenwich, Magna Carta Surety

Also Known As: "Geoffrey de Saye"
Birthdate: (79)
Birthplace: West Greenwich, Kent, England
Death: May 19, 1214 (75-83)
West Greenwich, Kent, England
Place of Burial: Dover, Kent, England
Immediate Family:

Son of Sir William de Saye, II and Lady Beatrice de Mandeville
Husband of Alice de Vere and first wife of Geoffrey de Saye
Father of Geoffrey de Saye, IV; Geoffrey de Saye, III, Lord of West Greenwich II, Surety of the Magna Carta and William de Saye
Brother of Sir William de Saye, III (II)
Half brother of Richard Talbot, II

Occupation: Magna Charta Baron
Managed by: Pam Wilson
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About Geoffrey II de Saye, 1st Lord of West Greenwich, Magna Carta Surety

Geoffrey (II) de Say (1135–1214) was an English nobleman, Lord of West Greenwich, and Magna Carta surety.

He held land at Edmonton and Sawbridgeworth. He had family claims to larger estates, but they had gone to the kinsman Geoffrey Fitz Peter, 1st Earl of Essex.

Geoffrey was the son of William de Saye II and Beatrice de Mandeville. He married (1) Alice de Chesney and (2) Alice de Vere. He had a son named Geoffrey with each of his wives, and an older son named William with his first wife. His son Geoffrey (III) (1155-1230) by his first marriage inherited the honour of West Greenwich and was a Magna Carta Surety.

http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ENGLISHNOBILITYMEDIEVAL3P-S.htm

GEOFFREY de Say ([1155]-Poitou 1230 before 26 Aug, bur Dover, Hospital of St Mary). “Galfridus de Say, filius Galfridi de Say et Aliciæ de Ver, dominus de Rikelyng” donated property to Waldon abbey by undated charter, witnessed by “domino Willielmo de Mandevilla comite Essexiæ…”. The Red Book of the Exchequer records "Galfridus de Say junior" holding 7 knights´ fees "de honore Patricii" in Kent in [1210/12]. "Galfr de Say" made a fine for "terris q fuerunt G. de Say patris sui" in Sussex and Middlesex, dated 1214. The Annals of Tewkesbury record the death in 1230 of “Gaufridus de Sey” and his burial “apud Dovere”. m ---. Geoffrey & his wife had one child:

(a) WILLIAM de Say . "Upon the death of Geoffrey de Say…William de Say his son and heir" paid homage to the king "for all that Geoffrey held of the king in chief" [in Bedfordshire], dated [Sep] 1230


He was involved in financial transactions and law suits against his cousin and nephew by marriage, Geoffrey fitz Piers, to gain the lands of the Mandeville Earls of Essex
He was involved in financial transactions and law suits against his cousin and nephew by marriage, Geoffrey fitz Piers, to gain the lands of the Mandeville Earls of Essex.

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Geoffrey II de Saye, 1st Lord of West Greenwich, Magna Carta Surety's Timeline

1135
1135
Kent, England
1155
1155
Age 20
Kent, England
1214
May 19, 1214
Age 79
Kent, England
1230
August 30, 1230
Age 79
Dover, Kent, England
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