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Ide Cornelisen van Vorst

Also Known As: "Corneliszen", "van Voorst"
Birthdate: (49)
Birthplace: Nieuw-Amsterdam, Nieuw-Nederland
Death: December 28, 1683 (49)
Ahasymus, Bergen County, Province of East Jersey
Place of Burial: Jersey City, Hudson County, New Jersey, United States
Immediate Family:

Son of Cornelius Hendricks Van Vorst; Beatrix Var van der Laen and Vrouwtje Ides Van Voorst
Husband of Hilletje Jans van Vorst
Father of Vrouwtje Meyer (Van Vorst); Pieterje Idese Marselis; Annetje Idense Meyer; Cornelis Idesen van Voorst; Joanna Idens Sip and 1 other
Brother of Hendrick Corneliusen Van Voorst; Annetje Cornelis Cornelisse Van Vorst; Garrit Jansen Van Vorst; Arij Cornelisz VanPutten; Jan VanVorst and 1 other
Half brother of Annetje Cornelis Cornelisse Van Vorst

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About Ide Cornelisen van Vorst

Ide Corneliszen Van Vorst

Said to have been the 1st white male born and married in New Amsterdam

1652 18 Oct; Ide Corneliszen van Voorst, van N. Amsterd; Hilletje Jans, van Oldenburg

History of County of Hudson, NJ pg 430: Ide was born and married in Netherlands. In the war of 1643 the "little boy" was captured by the Indians and taken to Tappaen. Capt. de Vries and a couple of friendly natives, a few days afterward, went up and ransomed him. He married Hilletje Jans of Oldenbergh 10/18/1652. That he had a good time at his wedding is learned incidentally from the record of a law suit between him and his stepfather about two years afterward. It appears that Stoffelsen had some time previous given a dinner to Capt. Geurt Lysen and his friends, and in return the Captain had presented Stoffelsen with a negro. Two sheep were required for the entertainment, and these being taken from the common flock. Ide claimed to own one-half of them and therefore one-half of the negro. Stoffelsen replied that Ide had two sheep at his wedding and these having also come out of the common flock balanced accounts leaving the negro to him.

He continued to reside at Ahasimus as a farmer, accumulating wealth which was to eneable him to become the owner of a considerable part of the domain of Pauw.

He braved the danger of border life and exposed his property and family to the attack of the stealthy savages rather than abandon his home. During the war of 1655 he took refuge in New Amsterdam but returned to his farm when peace was established. Yet he was in danger and obliged to flee for his life. One day in Oct. 1659 the Indians came down upon him as he was engaged in dressing some meat near his house. Seizing the meat he fled to his boat and pulled across the river to New Amsterdam. The Solons who administered justice in that great city could not wink at such a gross breach of the law and they solemnly fined him 20 guilders and costs for bringing meat to the city without taking out an excise license.

From Dutch NY by Esther Singleton 1909: Tavern & Excise Laws 1658: Nicaseus de Silla prosecuted Dirck Braeck "for that deft. on last Sun afternoon during the sermon tapped for and gave drinks to 3 or 4 different persons. Def denies the same saying he only treated Nicolaes Vareth, Cornelis Aersen and Ide van Vorst and their wives to a drink of beer through friendship and good neighborhood without taking a penny as they did him many favors heretofore when after his cattle. This being a first offense the def was warned and discharged. It seems that while the masters were being entertained by one Braeck their servants were taking advantage of their absence to enjoy themselves. De Silla sues Cornelis Aersen and Ide van Vorst for their servantmen raced last Sun evening after the sermon within the city with horses and wagons and damage and disaster might have arisen. Defendants were fined three guilders each.

On Sept. 16, 1657 "Yden Corneilszen" and Hilletje Jans were present at the baptism of Tryntie, child of Claes Janszen and Anneken Cornelis.

  • Ide is also recorded as Edo, Ido and Iden " It is a Netherland Christian name, particularly Frisian, with no English equivalent. It is pronounced E--DA. It enters the Marselis line through Pieterje Van Vorst, whose father was Ide Cornelisen Van Vorst. His father was Cronelius Van Vorst, who was superintendent of Pavonia, just across the Hudson River.
  • Ide Cornelisen Van Vorst was also kidnapped by the Indians as a young lad and released. He married and lived in the 3rd house from Wall Street on William Street. An early map of New York City shows this and a MANATVSMAP shows the Van Vorst property in New Jersey.
  • The English captured New Netherland from the Dutch in 1664, and, thereupon, Philip Carteret, by an appointment of the "Lords-Proprietors" of the Province of East New Jersey, became its first governor. The titles of the settlers of Bergen were confirmed by Carteret and his council in 1668. In 1669, following his appointment as governor, Carteret also granted other portions of the lands in Hudson County to the following named persons: Maryn Adrianse, Peter Stuyvesant, Claes Petersen Cors, Severn Laurens, Hendrick Jansen Spier, Peter Jansent Slott, Barent Christianse, Mark Noble, Samuel Moore, Adrian Post, Guert Coerten, Frederick Phillipse, Thomas Frederick de Kuyper, Guert Geretsen (Van Wagenen), Peter Jacobsen, John Berry, Ide Cornelius Van Vorst, Hans Diedrick, Hendrick Van Ostum, Cornelius Ruyven.
  • Title: Harvey, Cornelius Burnham, Genealogical History Of Hudson And Bergen Counties New Jersey, New Jersey Genealogical Publishing Company, New Jersey, 1900

Early in 1638 William Kleft [] became Director General of New Netherland, and on the first day of May following granted to Abraham Isaacsen Planck (Verplanck) a patent for Paulus Hook (now lower Jersey City).

There were now two "plantations" at Bergen, those of Planck and Van Vorst. Parts of these, however, had been leased to, and were then occupied by, Clacs Jansen Van Purmerend, Dirck Straatmaker, Barent Jansen, Jan Cornelissen Buys, Jan Evertsen Carsbon, Michael Jansen, Jacob Stoffelsen, Aert Teunisen, Van Putten, Egbert Woutersen, Garret Dirckse Blauw, and Cornelius Arlessen. Van Putten had also leased and located on a farm at Hoboken. All those, with their families and servants, constituted a thriving settlement. The existence of the settlement of Bergen was now imperiled by the nets of Governor Kleft, whose idea of government was based mainly upon the principle that the governor should get all he could out of the governed. His treatment of the Indians soon incited their distrust and hatred of the whites. The savages, for the first time, began to show symptoms of open hostility. Captain Jan Petersen de Vries, a distinguished navigator, who was then engaged in the difficult task of trying to found a colony at Tappan, sought every means in his power to conciliate the Indians, and to persuade Kleft that his treatment of them would result in bloodshed.

The crafty and selfish governor turned a deaf ear to all warnings and advice and continued to goad the Indians by cruel treatment and harsh methods of taxation. In 1643 an Indiana -- no doubt under stress of great provocation -- shot and killed a member of the Van Vorst family(some doubt about this relationship, see note below). This first act of murder furnished a pretext for the whites and precipitated what is called "The Massacre of Pavonia," [] on the night of February 25, 1643, when Kleft, with a sergeant and eighty soldiers, armed and equipped for slaughter, crossed the Hudson, landed at Communipaw, attached the Indians while they were asleep in their camp.
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Ide Cornelisen van Vorst's Timeline

Nieuw-Amsterdam, Nieuw-Nederland
August 24, 1653
Age 19
August 26, 1657
Age 23
November 9, 1659
Age 25
Age 26
Ahasymus, Nieuw-Nederland
July 30, 1662
Age 28
Ahasymus, Nieuw-Nederland
April 16, 1666
Age 32
Bergen, Bergen, New Jersey
December 28, 1683
Age 49
Ahasymus, Bergen County, Province of East Jersey
Jersey City, Hudson County, New Jersey, United States