James Alexander, [of Spartanburg Co, SC; son of James d 1753 and Ann]
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Son of James Alexander, [of Anson Co, NC, d 1753] and Ann Alexander
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About James Alexander, [of Spartanburg Co, SC; son of James d 1753 and Ann]
JAMES ALEXANDER SR. of Spartanburg Co., SC is NOT the son of MOSES Alexander, NOR is he the James who married into the PEDENS
Posted: 23 Mar 2015
This James Alexander Sr. I refer to was b abt 1730 and was thought by some (including me) to be the son of Moses b 1697 Cecil Co. MD, who was the son of James The Weaver of Cecil Co., MD fame. However, a number of men who can document themselves back to this James Sr. b abt 1730 have tested their yDNA and they DO NOT match anyone who can trace himself back to Moses or any of the famous 7 brothers of Cecil Co., MD.
The error was based on the fact that Moses DID have a son named James (per Moses' will) born about 1720, and it was ASSUMED before DNA testing that this James was the son of Moses. No one has found what happened to Moses' son James.
There is also confusion with this James Alexander Sr b abt 1730 of Spartanburg Co., SC being the man who married Mary (Polly) Peden. But the James Alexander who married Mary Peden is of different DNA also. Specifically he was James b. abt. 1730 County Antrim, Ireland; m. Mary (Polly) Peden b. abt. 1732, County Antrim, Ireland. Both died in Fairview, Greenville Co., SC.
Where and when exactly this James Sr of Spartanburg Co. b 1730 was born is unknown.
Sons of James Sr. include James Jr. b abt 1755 and Matthew b abt 1757 and William b abt 1759.
The earliest known Alexanders of DNA testers who match the descendants of this James Sr but cannot document a relationship to him are:
- Thomas Alexander b. 13 Oct. 1795 Spartanburg SC, d 16 Apr 1855 Oconee Co., SC; m. Jane Wood b 15 Sept 1801 VA. She was the daughter of John Wood and Susan Burnett of Spartanburg Co., SC.
- William Andrew Alexander, pb. 1818 (NC or TN, census records list both), d. 1867 Ducktown, Polk Co., TN, m. in Union Co., GA, 1838 to Elizabeth Resign Anderson, b. 1818 SC.
- his brother Mathew Alexander b. abt 1810, NC; d. bef 1869 near Atlanta GA; m. 12 Sept. 1844 Judah Anderson , b. 1825, GA
- James Wardlaw Alexander, b oct 9, 1813 Abbeville SC; m 1. Mary McCartney 1835, 2. Nancy Wardlaw 1849, 3. Marthy Maynard 1860, 4. Sarah C. Wade 1869, 5. Mary Easley. James Wardlaw Alexander died May 27, 1897, and is buried in Poplar Springs Cemetery in Vardaman, MS.
Finally, speaking of Alexanders in Spartanburg Co., SC, there is a different family of Alexanders there at the same time: Alexander Alexander b. 1750-52 Ireland, emigrated to SC 1772-74 d.1806 Spartanburg Co, SC, m. Anna McCrory. This family of Alexanders is also in the Alexander DNA Project and matches no other Alexander yet tested.
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The following information may be incorrect:
The link from William as the son of this James is sketchy! The ink up to Moses is probably worse.
- William served in the Rev War (in DAR records)
- In a list of James and Mary's children, there is a William born in 1759
- I have ruled out all the other parents of William Alexanders that I can find in NC at the time.
- William was, like James and Mary, from Rowan County.
If this link holds up, along with a number of sketchy links above it, then this is the only royal descent line I have found on the Hunt side.
One site says James signed up for the Rev War but his son Matthew had to take his place.
Some say James married Mary Steele. There is some good evidence from land records his wife was Mary.
Could be a confusion with his grandmother Mary Steele.
He had a son James b. 1754
- James born ca. 1725 in Cecil Co., married Mary Steel (daughter of James Steele), died ca. 1810 in Spartanburg Co., SC. Removed to Frederick Co.,MD, with brothers Nathaniel & Abraham. Removed to Anson Co., NC, ca.1750. Anson Co. was later divided into Mechlenburg & Rowan Cos., NC, and Spartanburg Co., SC. Patented land in 1753.
I have him married to a Mary Wallace b. 1700. his son James b. abt 1725 is among other sons who came into The Carolinas. His (Moses' or James' ??) farm was on The "south fork of The Pacolet River"--originally that was in newly created Anson Co (from Bladen Co) 1750 or so, but by The time North & South Carolina settled their boundary dispute that farm wound up in Spartanburg SC, although it was still on The south fork of The Pacolet :-)
"James Alexander the paternal ancestor of all the Thorlton's today, and the son of Moses, had a son James Jr., born in 1760, in Cecil County Maryland."
Does anyone know more on James, son of Moses Alexander and Mary Wallace? Moses D 1762 Cecil Co., MD and does mentions a son named James in his will (so he can't be the one that D 1753 as some say) and other sons who we know went to Mecklenburg Co., NC. All I can find is James was B ca 1725 and Alexander Kin says he D ca 1810 Mecklenburg Co., NC. There is no will and so far I haven't found anything in the Court records in Meck. on his estate. Can someone point me in the right direction? I want to know who his children were (did he have a Samuel?). This James and the James who D ca 1810 Spartanburg or Greeneville Co., SC (spouse Mary Peden) have been lumped together in Internet sources (possibly along with other James Alexanders), but after two weeks of working on this (and pulling my hair out), the James that D in SC can't be the son of Moses (that's my opinion and a few others agree). Some say James, son of Moses, was married to Mary Steele, dtr. of James who D 1751. Wells on Internet does give a 1759 deed (Anson Co.?) with James, wife Mary, and brother Nathaniel. Nathaniel was a son of Moses and Mary (Wallace). There are other deeds involving a James in early NC, but I'm having trouble deciding which James they belong to. SOME of the children of Moses Alexander and Mary Wallace were: Nathaniel of Rocky River and Poplar Tent; Ruth who married James Dysart; Moses of Rocky River and Sugar Creek; and Mary who married a White and James Cox (not Robert Miller - I haven't found that Mary yet). Could James, son of Moses, be the father of Samuel? Samuel named his son James.
wanda killgore @ 23:16 PM Add Comment
David Brown Posted Nov. 15, 2005: Hi Wanda, It's great hearing from you! Your question on James Alexander, son of Moses Alexander is interesting as I have wondered about him too. I agree that James Alexander, son of Moses, is a different man than James Alexander who married Mary Peden (they have been confused by many researchers, but were actually born later based on information I've seen) (Note for Geni entry: I agree). He is also not the same man as James Alexander who was married to Ann and died c. 1753 in Anson/Rowan Co., NC. James Alexander who died in 1753 is also a bit of a mystery and has not been placed with the other Alexanders (I think this James that died in 1753 was living in Amelia Co., VA with other Scotch-Irish settlers from the 1740's through c.1750). The children I have seen listed for James Alexander, son of Moses, are Samuel, Margaret, William (Note for Geni entry: this would be our line), James, Jr., and Matthew. I think his son Samuel would have been born too late to be "our" Samuel and I think most attribute James' son Samuel as living well past 1784. However, it is interesting to note that some of these sons migrated to Logan Co., KY and some eventually to Henry Co., TN. In looking for more information on James Alexander (son of Moses) this evening, I did find something new, which I am pasting in this post. I think it helps fill in the gaps for James Alexander. Thanks again, and here's the information: Posted on Rootsweb by David Hughey Change Date: 9 Jul 2005 Information on James Alexander, son of Moses Alexander Anson Co NC was a huge terrority extending down into what is now northern South Carolina. Anson was later cut into Mecklenburg Co NC and Rowan Co NC. The SW section of this territory became part of Spartanburg Co SC when the NC/SC border dispute was settled. Jarvis Alexander wrote to Noel Alexander in 22 Jan 1980 that he found a land grant in Anson Co NC to James Alexander described at "John Clark's lowercorner ." Jarvis found another Anson Co NC Patent Deed to James Alexanderfor 700 acres described to be on the "south side of the PacoletRiver"--which is now in Spartanburg Co SC. We do know that James was in what is now Rowan Co NC in the 1750s where at least three or four sons were born. Family was Presbyterian. Some report that the family moved toSpartanburg CO SC in the 1760s, but it is more likely that the settlementof the NC/SC Border Dispute simply placed the location of their farminside SC rather than in Anson/Rowan Co NC. James Sr sold 490 acres of his Anson Co/Rowan Co NC/Spartanburg Co SC land to a James Dunn in 1759 (witnessed by his wife Mary & brother Nathaniel) and sold the remaining 200 acres of the original 700 acres toThomas Burton about 1806, according to research and documentation obtained by Jarvis Alexander, Franklin IN. In that deed the land is also described as " at John Clark's lower corner." The sale of these remaining 200 acres and the earlier sale of 490 acres match the description of the original 700 acres---of which 490 were in NC when purchased and sold while the final sale is recorded in SC due to boundary change. His wife Mary signed the deed on the first sale in NC but was not required to sign in SC. James Sr entered revolutionary war service there, possibly about 1777 .He soon became ill, and Matthew substituted for him. Matthew served about 3 years and was discharged after Cornwallis's surrender. It is not know if other James Sr male children were involved in the Revolution. Worth Ray cites Probate NC records of Mecklenburg Co showing will of Arthur Alexander of Anson Co NC on Dec 16, 1763 (Mecklenburg--in 1762--was formed from part of Anson & Rowan counties) was witnessed by James Alexander, Ezekiel Alexander, brothers Abraham, Ezra and a son named Elias. John McClatchy's will (1725-1797) shows James Alexnder as a witness and Abraham Alexander as one of the executors. 8 Feb 1777, a James Alexander, brother of Ezekiel and William, was a witness to John Garrison's transfer to Ezekiel for L.300 proc money 267 acres which were part of tract #3 deeded from Selwyn to Jane Craighead--to his son--John Garrison and Hannah. Historical Press Corp. 1979.Tract #4, 111 acres part of land subdivided on Sugar Creek from John Campbell's barony, was deeded to James and Ezekiel Alexander by J.E. McColloh 14 May 1765. There is a deed on file in SC, according to Jarvis Alexander, showing James Alexander sold George Campbell 200 a cres 31 Mar 1808. This is land purchased by James Jr from John Clayton. Our James Sr, according to Jarvis Alexander, eventually left SC and joined his grandson George (oldest son of James Jr) at his home in Blount Co TN. George was the first of this family to migrate over the mountains. Jarvis states a deed he discovered showed George Alexander of Blount Co TN selling 150 acres on Motleys Creek to John Ewing 25 Sep 1809. This George , says Jarvis, is the same George we find in early Roane Co TN. In the minutes of theThomas Alexander family reunion held in Johnson Co IN in 1917 there is a statement that George Alexander was a brother of Thomas Alexander. Jarvis reports that James Sr. died in Blount Co about 1815 at age of 80 or so. Ezekiel, son of David along with his brothers, Aaron, William and James all came to Mecklenburg about 1750 and located in Sugar Creek area. John Alexander firstname.lastname@example.org " Nathaniel Alexander as well as James Alexander Sr.and his wife Mary. Nathaniel, Abraham, Daniel, Zebulon and brother Moses migrated with James and his family to NC about 1750. James Sr sold 490 acres of his Anson Co/Rowan Co NC/Spartanburg Co SC land to a James Dunn in 1759 (witnessed by his wife Mary & brother Nathaniel) and sold the remaining 200 acres of the original 700 acres toThomas Burton about 1806"
This is the other (Ireland-> SC) JA that I have decided against accepting as our line.
James Alexander m. 1748 Mary "Polly" Peden (b. 1730).
[p.160] James Alexander (1725-1810) served as a private in the South
Carolina troops. He was born in Ireland; died in Greenville District, S.C.