Jane Collier (unknown)
|Also Known As:||"Jane (---) Kirby Clark Collier"|
|Birthplace:||London, Middlesex, England|
|Death:||Died in Duxbury, Plymouth , Massachusetts|
Daughter of unknown father of Jane Collier and Elizabeth Hobson
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About Jane Collier
- Birth: 1590, London, CM, England 420
- Death: aft 28 Jun 1666, Duxbury, Plymouth, MA 511
- Parents: unknown
"He [William Collier] married at St. Olave, Southwark, 16 May 1611 (TAG, 49:215), Jane (___) Clark, perhaps a widow at marriage. Jane died after 28 June 1666 when she consented to a deed (PCLR, 3:152)."
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- William Clarke
- 16 May 1611, St. Olave, Southwark, England217,760,757,758,511 to William Collier Birth 1585, London, CM, England757,511 Death bef 5 Jul 1671, Duxbury, Plymouth, MA757,511. He was the son of Abraham Collier (<1590-)
13 children include
- Mary (<1611-<1662)
- Elizabeth (<1618->1678)
www.PlymouthAncestors.org retrieved May 2014
- She is the widow of William Clarke. Clark(e) is not her maiden name. Her "parents" need to be removed. (done May 2014)
- Most Likely died before her husband, William Collier, and 4 daughters came to America.
- She is actually listed as dying sometime after Jun3 28, 1666.(done April 2014)
- Much discussion the literature about her maiden name. Clarke or Curtes/Curtis has been proposed but there is no evidence supporting this. Was a widow when she married him as Jane Clark. Died after 28 June 1666, prob. Duxbury.
- See other entry for more information.
Here is a detailed discussion of the above, from Ancestry.com: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~barbpretz/PS03/PS03_096.HTM contact firstname.lastname@example.org (added by LDC, note go to site for the annotated refs).
Notes for Jane Clark
"With Collier there had come to this country his four grown daughters and his wife, Jane, of whom it is not known whether she was his first wife and the mother of his children. . . The first mention of Collier's wife is on February 18, 1634/35, when the inventory of Thomas Evans showed a debt 'To mrs Colier.' "565
"She is said to be the sister of Thomas Clarke and probably daughter of John Clarke and Elizabeth Hobson."760
"She died after 28 June 1666 when she consented to a deed made by her husband."757
"In L. Effingham deForest's Moore and Allied Families it stated (p. 202): 'On June 11, 1653, Mrs. Jane Collyare, on behalf of her grandchild, Sarah, the wife of Nathaniel Warren, sued Nathaniel's mother, Elizabeth Warren, about some land. The question was submitted to arbitration and finally settled.
The whole question is of particular interest, as the fact that William Collier did not join in the petition suggests that Sarah was Jane's grandchild, but not his, and that Jane may have been married before her marriage to Collier.'
Nathaniel Warren married Sarah Walker, 19 Nov. 1645 at Plymouth, but no records were found at St. Olave's which would show how Sarah Walker would be the granddaughter of Jane (Clark) Collier." 758
"[p. 75] 1653 Bradford Govr These are to siignifye that upon a claime made by Nathaniell Warren as heire to the lands of Richard Warren late of Plymouth and by Reason alsoe of a petition prefered to the court held att Plymoth the seaventh of June 1653 by mis Jan Collyare in behalfe of her grandchild the wife of the said Nathaniell Warren conserning sundry passages and Discourses between her and mis Elizabeth Warren ye mother of the said Nathaniell Warren about the time of theire contract; by which the said mis Collyare Did conceive her grandchild should by promise have been Invested and entersed in more lands then the said mis Warren Doth now acknowlidge. By Reason wherof many great and sad Differences were like to arise between the prties abovsaid and the said mis Warren and her other children to whom shee had Desposed som prte of her lands to theire great Discontent if not undoeing; The case was Refered by both prties; videlecett the said Nathaniell Warren and mis Jane Collyare on the one prtie and mis Elizabeth Warren on the other prtie.
To Mr William bradford Mr Thomas Prence captaine Myles standish and captaine Thomas Willett as arbetrators chosen Indiff(e)rently by them to end Deside Issue and finally Determine all contraversies Differences and claimes about this matter than hath arisen ormay for ever arise heerafter for which end the prties abovesaid were all and every of them bound in as assumsett of an hundred pounds appece to stand to theire aware which is as followeth
first That the said Nathaniell Warren shall enjoy to him and his heires for ever all that land which hee is now possessed of; and moreover shall have two thirds of those lands called purchase lands as yett unlayed out;
2condly And mis Warren shall enjoy that three acres of land bee it more or lesse lying neare to the lotts of Nathaniell Warren; Dureing her life; but ater her Decease it shall come to Nathaniell Warren
3dly shee and her children (viz mis Warren aforsaid) shall quietly enjoy all the Rest of her lands and all of them to whom shee hath alreddy att any time heer(to)fore Desposed any prte therof by gift sale or otherwise or shall heerafter Doe the same To them and theire heires for ever without any trouble or molestacon;
4ly Lastly the said Nathaniell Warren shall for ever cease all other or further claimes suites questions or any molestations or Disturbance att any time heerafter conserning the prmises; but that his said mother and allher children or any other to whom sehh hath any way Desposed any lands or shall heerafter Doe the same; But that they may quietly and peacably possese and enjoy the same they and theire heires for ever without any molestation from him and his att any time heerafter;
This Determination and award wee have singed under our hands The Eleventh of June 1653 William Bradford Thomas Prence Myles Standish Thomas Willett The obligation binding to stand to this award is recorded inthe forgoeing leafe of this booke."785
"What the Parish Register of St. Olave's, Southwark, does not say is that Jane Clark, wife of William Collier, grocer, evidently must have been a widow at the time of her marriage in 1611, in order to explain her relationship to her granddaughter Sarah Walker, who was married in 1645. . .
Miss Podmore copied the Walker entries in the Baptismal Registers of St. Olave's from 1 Jan. 1619/20 to 31 Dec. 1627, and from Nov. 1639 to 31 Dec. 1640 (there is an unfortunate gap in these Registers from Jan. 1627/8 to Nov. 639).
She found the baptism of only one Sarah Walker: 1622 November 10 Sara d. of William Walker draper and this is the only child of William Walker in these Registers at this period.
The marriage of William Walker, draper, did not take place at St. Olave's, but we suggest that his wife must have been a Clark, daughter of Mrs. Jane Collier by her first marriage.
Miss Podmore also copied the Walker entries in the Registers of St. Saviour's, Southwark, but found no Sarah christened at the right time and no reference in this parish to William Walker, the draper. Examination of the records of the Drapers' Company might be very rewarding." 786
"The earliest writers upon genealogical matters in this country give but little of his family. All that Savage offers is, 'Whether he brought wife from home, or had any here is doubtful; but four daughters came, of excellent character.'
The files of Plymouth Colony, however, show clearly that Mr. Collier had a wife there as early as 18 Feb. 1634/5, at which time the inventory of the estate of Thomas Evans mentions a debt owing to 'Mrs. Colier,' the amount not being stipulated. The deed of Plymouth Colony show that by 11 June 1653 the wife of William Collier was Jane. On that date the following obligation was appointed to be recorded,
- 'Whereas there hath been a Difference Depending betwixt Mis Elizabeth warren and her sonn Nathaniel Warren about certaine lands which the said Nathaniell conceiveth hee hath right unto as heire unto the lands of Mr Ricahrd Warren Deceased;
These are therfor to Declare and certify unto all whome it may conserne That Jane Collyare in the behalfe of her grandchild Sara the wife of the said Nathaniell Warren and an other petition formerly prefered to the court by Robert Bartlett sonninlaw of the said Elizabeth Warren by each petitions the prties requesting Justice in the prmises;
the said Mis Elizabeth Warren and Mis Jane Collyare and Nathaniell Warren haveing agreed to refer the said Difference unto such of the bench as they have chosen;
viz Mis Elizabeth Warren hath chosen Mr William Bradford and captain Willett and Mis Jane Collyare and Nathaniell Warren haveing Chosen Mr Thomas Prence and capt. Myles Standish and they the said Elizabeth Warrenn in the summe of an hundred pounds and the said Jane Collyare and Nathaniell Warren in the summe of an hundred pounds to stand to whatsoever they shall Doe and finally Determine in the prmises or the Maior prte of them; and incase they can not agree they are to chose a fift to bee Umpire in the case.'
Elizabeth Warren signed by mark and Jane Collyare and Nathaniell Warren signed their names."695
"Nathaniell Warren's marriage to Sarah Walker is on the Plymouth Colony records, 19 Nov. 1645.
On the 2d of December 1661, William Collier gave a deed of land to Benjamin Bartlett who had married Sarah Brewster, granddaughter of William Collier, and daugher of his daughter Sarah (Collier) Brewster.
The deed was freely given with the consent 'of Mistris Jane Collyare his wife,' to take effect upon the death of William Collier and his wife Jane. This deed was made null and void and another deed made the 28th of June 1666.
As there was a 'Mrs. Colier' in the Colony, by 18 Feb. 1634/5 as previously mentioned, it seems apparent either that William Collier brought his wife with him in 1633 or that she came soon after.
Had he married her here the marriage would have been recorded, probably, as were those of his four daughters. The question naturally arises as to whether Jane Collier was the wife of 1634/5 or a later wife.
No doubt would have crept in as to her being the wife of 1634/5 and the mother of his daughters born in England were it not for the document in which Mrs. Jane Collier represents the interest of her 'grandchild' Sarah (Walker) Warren as though this grandchild was kin to her and not to her husband William Collier." 695
"The deed to Daniel Cole, elsewhere quoted, where he is called by Collier 'soninlaw' has given rise to the natural supposition that Ruth, the wife of Daniel Cole, was a fifth daughter of William Collier. If she were Collier's daughter, her age at death, 15 Dec. 1694, in her 67th year, would place her birth 1627/8.
That there is no record of the marriage of Daniel Cole to wife Ruth, which must have occurred before 15 July 1644 when the son John Cole was born and when Ruth was but 17 or 18 years of age, seems incredible for a daughter of the magistrate, the marriages of whose four known daughters were painstatkingly recorded.
Daniel Cole died six days after his wife Ruth , or 21 Dec. 1694, aged 80 years. This would make him some thirteen years his wife's senior. May it have been that Daniel Cole had married previously in England a daughter of William Collier, and that this Ruth was a second wife?
Other possible explanations of the relationship 'son-in-law,' meaning usually in those days 'stepson' would be that Jane, wife of William Collier, had married the faather of Daniel Cole or else had married the father of Daniel Cole's wife Ruth before her marriage to Mr. Collier. Jane was, however, grandmother of Sarah (Walker) Warren whose birth must have occurred about the same time as Ruth's, so that if Ruth were her daughter and Sarah Walker her granddaughter shw would have become a mother and a grandmother at about the same time, not an uncommon occurrence in those days.
Jane must have been born not much later than 1592, and probably somewhat earlier than that, to have had a granddaughter of marriageable age by 1645." 695
"The will of John Cole which was proved 7 Jan. 1637/8 bears no date of signature. After the statement that he was sick and weak in body but in perfect mind and memory it goes on to state, 'I give and bequeath unto my brother Job Cole by beding and all my cloathes and my Sow and I give unto Elizabeteh Collyer five shillinges and unto eich of master Collyers men half a crowne a peece as namely unto Edward IIs VId unto Joseph IIs VId & unto Arthur IIs VId & also to Ralph IIs VId and unto John IIs VId these prticulars above named being payd and given the remaynder I would have devided between my brother Job and my brother Daniell and if my brother Daniell should be dead before his part can be delivred unto him then my brother Job shall have it all And I does ordayne and make my brother Job Cole my sole executor.' It is reasosnalbe to suppose that the Elizabeth Collier remembered by John Cole was the daughter of William Collier.
In the absense of the date of signature it is likely that the will was made before Nov. 2, 1637, when Elizabeth Collier became Eizabeth Southworth, by marriage to Constant Southworth." 695
"It is unfortunate that the identity of Jane Collier has not been determined. Besides the possibility that she had married a Walker previous to her marriage to William Collier there is the possibility that her daughter by a former husband had married a Walker, becoming the mother of Sarah (Walker) Warren.
There is even another possibility for the identity of Jane Collier. William Collier subscribed to the following, 6 March 1649, 'Know all men by these prsents yt I Wilam Colliar have made over vnto my kinsman Willam Clark all my Right title & Enterest of & into a pcell of vpland ground lying att North hill in the township of Duxburrow being Esteemated at about ten acars bee it more or less lying on the south east side of the said North hill; being bounded on the south with the hieway & otherwise bounded as it is now Inclosed The said ten acers of vpland bee it more or les with all & Singlular he appurtenances . . . ' (Signed) Willam Colliar.
This William Clark is supposed to have been the son of the Thomas Clark who served as administrator with the other three on the estate of William Collier.
In a deed from Thomas Southworth and Constant Southworth of Duxbury to Nathaniel Warren and Joseph Warren of New Plymouth, dated 1 May 1666, a farm at Eel river sometime the land of their William Wright, deceased, was conveyed as also land that had been granted to their father-in-law William Bradfordm deceased, which land abbutted on land belonging 'to Mr Thomas Clarke; now in the Ocupation of his son Willam Clarke.'
May it have been that the kinship of William Clark and William Collier came through Mrs. Jane Collier? In Nottingham, Engl, Parish Registers are several married of thomas Clarks to women by the Jane, -
Thomas Clarke & Jane Drurye, 23 sept. 1583, at St. Anne's of Sutton in Bonington. Thomas Clarke & Jane Wright, 20 Dec. 1584, at St. Marys. Thomas Clarke & Jone Resonn, 24 Sept. 1593, at St. Mary's. William Fisburne & Jane Clarke, 29 Oct. 1560, at St. Michale's of Sutton in Bonington.
May it have been that Mrs. Jane Collier was a daughter of one of the above marriages and may Thomas Clarke of New England have been her brother or nephew? The name Wal;ker also appears frequently among the Nottingham marriages. Two early ones were of Francis Walker and Jane Tompson, 4 May 1614 in Radford; and of Robert Walker and Jane Thorp, 26 Nov. 1580, So. Collingham. "695
"There is another mention of kin of William Collier upon the Plymouth Colony records.
On the 6th of December 1659, Joseph Prior was summoned and apeared 'to answare for pilfering and prloyning practice, and other vnworthy carriages relateing thervnyo, viz &, in alluring a younge maide, a kinswoman to Mr Willam Collyares, to healp him, the said Prior, to sundry thinges ptaining to the said Mr Collyare, without knowlidg of or leave from Mr Collyare or Mrs Jane Collyare, his wife.'
While the name of Collier is to be found in Lancashire and Chesire, Wiltshire and other places in England, it is more probably that the early home of William Collier, the Adventurer, was in or near LOndon where we at least know that he had a brew-house.
Two marriages near London seem worth of investigation, the one at St. Saviour's, Southwark, 13 Mayy 1610, or William Colliar and Margaret Timmes; the other at Hayes, Middlesex, 21 June 1612, of Wm. Collier and Isabel Parrett.
They are suggestions for genealogical research, provided, only that Jane was a second wife of William Collier and not the mother of his four daughters, all of which points need proof as yet."695
"On June 11, 1653, Mrs. Jane Collyare, on behalf of her grandchild, Sarah, 'the wife of Nathaniel Warren, sued Nathaniel's mother, Elizabeth Warren, about some land.
The questions was submitted to arbitrations and finally settled. The whole question is of particular interest, as the fact that William Collier did not join in the petition suggests that Sarah was Jane's grandchild, but not his, and that Jane may have been married before her marriage to Collier." 565
"Walker-Warren. Since the publication of this query the Editor has found the following record, which furnishes an interesting clue to the ancestry of Sarah (Walker) Warren. The fact that this petition was not made by William Collier, but by his wife Jane, seems to indicate that Sarah was her granddaughter by a former husband, but unfortunately it is not conclusive evidence. It appears, therefore, that there were three ways in which Sarah Walker could have been Jane Collier's granddaughter.
First, Sarah's mother might have been the daughter of William and Jane Collier.
Second, Sarah's father might have been the son of Jane Collier by a former husband named Walker. Third, Sarah's mother might have been a daughter of Jane Collier by a former husband of unknown surname." [Text of deed dated 11 June 1653 to be entered] 787
He married at St. Olave, Southwark, 16 May 1611 (TAG, 49:215), Jane (___) Clark, perhaps a widow at marriage. Jane died after 28 June 1666 when she consented to a deed (PCLR, 3:152). Last Modified 27 Feb 2007
Jane Collier's Timeline
October 20, 1591
London, Middlesex, England
February 18, 1612
January 10, 1614
Southwark, Surrey, England
April 30, 1616
Southwark, Surrey, England
March 9, 1619
Saint Olave, Southwark, Surrey, England
March 8, 1626
Southwark, Surrey, England
June 28, 1666
Duxbury, Plymouth , Massachusetts