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Jane Nicholas (St. John)

Birthdate:
Birthplace: Lydiard Tregoze, Swindon, Wiltshire, England
Death: 1608 (42-52)
England
Immediate Family:

Wife of Richard Nicholas
Mother of Elizabeth Richmond alias Webb and Elizabeth Richmond

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Immediate Family

About Jane Nicholas

Not the wife of Richard Nicholas. This Jane St. John married Robert Nicholas, not Richard.


Biography

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Saint_John-59

Jane was born about 1560.

Jane St John [1] was the daughter of Nicholas St John of Lydiard Tregoze, Wiltshire, England.[2]

Jane married Robert Nicholas of Manningford, Bruce, Wiltshire.[3][4]

Robert Nicholas died about 1602, as evidenced by the following record:

"Inquisitio post mortem of Robert Nicholas, of Brokenborough, in the manors of Manningford Bruce, and Cherrington, al. Chirton ( for the dowry of Jane St. John his wife), and in Brokenborough, Bishop's Cannings, and Chippenham ; Marlborough, 17 Sept. 1602."[5] Children of Jane St John and Robert Nicholas

For the Robert Nicholas-Jane Sr. John family, see See Henry Saint-George (Sir), The visitation of Wiltshire 1623 (London : G. Bell & Sons, 1882), 41; digital images, InternetArchive.

  1. Katherine Nicholas d. about 1 Dec 1678[6][7]. Married Sir Thomas Brodrick of Wandsworth.[8]

Nicholas, Richmond and Webb differentiation

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Nicholas-121

Just for clarity, it is good to differentiate between a couple families who were conflated in the past.

  • Elizabeth Nicholas (c. 1590-bef. 1634), daughter of this profile, married John Richmond alias Webb of Rodbourne Cheney, Wiltshire (c. 1590-1641) (location and date of their marriage is not yet known). After Elizabeth's death, John married Elizabeth Philipps (daughter of Sir John Philipps, MP). This John Richmond/Webb died in Wiltshire and did not emigrate to New England.
  • John Richmond alias Webb of Ashton Keynes or Amesbury, Wiltshire (c. 1594-1664) who DID emigrate to New England, had a wife who's name is not known. Because both Johns were Richmond alias Webb and were both from Wiltshire, they were conflated and many internet trees showed the New England emigrant to be married to Elizabeth Nicholas.
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  • Richard Nicholas was born in Camden, Berkshire, England.
  • He may have been the Richard NICHOLAS, Birth: 1560 in Camden, Berkshire, England Death: Aft 1615, who married Jane SAINT JOHN b: 1575 in England, Married: 1595 in of Camden, Berkshire, England, and had daughter Elizabeth NICHOLAS b: 1596 in Camden, Berkshire, England
  • Richard Nicholas was the father of the Elizabeth Nicholas who married John Richmond alias Webb of Rodbourne Cheney, Wiltshire.[1][2]
  • See research note on profile of linked daughter for "Removed Jane St John (Saint_John-59) as mother. She married Robert Nicholas, not Richard Nicholas and had a daughter Katherine. The 1623 "Visitation of Wilshire" lists the various children of Robert Nicholas and Jane Saint John but there is no direct proof of if or how the Richard of THIS profile is related to that Nicholas family.[3]
  • Other matters. Location of Camden needs to be verified. Camden Town or Camden was in Middlesex. Can find no evidence of a Camden in Berkshire.

According to the Richmond Family Ancestry pedigree page on Jane St. John:

http://www.richmondancestry.org/pedigrees2000_2999/pedigree2996.htm

Birthdate: ABT 1560

Birthplace: Lidieard, Wiltshire, England

Spouse: Richard (Rici) NICHOLAS

Married: ABT 1595

Place: Camden, Berkshire, England

Death date and place: Unknown.

Her birthplace is identified as Lydiard Tregoze:

http://www.visionofbritain.org.uk/place/place_page.jsp?p_id=11919

n 1870-72, John Marius Wilson's Imperial Gazetteer of England and Wales described Lydiard Tregoze like this:

LIDDIARD-TREEGOOZE, a village and a parish in Cricklade district, Wilts. The village stands near the Great Western railway, 2 miles N W of Swindon r. station, and 3 ENE of Wootton-Bassett; was known, at the Conquest, as Lidiar; and gives the title of Baron to Viscount Bolingbroke. The parish comprises 5,142 acres. Rated property, £7,721. Pop., 795. Houses, 160. The property is divided among a few. The manor belonged to the Treegoozes: passed to the Grandisons, the Pateshulls, and the Beauchamps; and has belonged, since the time of Henry VI., to the St.Johns, Viscounts Bolingbroke. Liddiard Park is the seat of Viscount Bolingbroke. The living is a rectory in the diocese of Glon cester and Bristol. Value, £628.* Patron, Viscount Bolingbroke. The church is ancient; was partly rebuilt in 1683; underwent thorough restoration about 1852; has a tower; and contains banners, helmets, pedigrees, and monuments of the Viscounts Bolingbroke 'There are a school for both sexes, and charities about £21.


Sources

  1. https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Saint_John-59
    1. Burke's Genealogical and Heraldic History of the Peerage, Baronetage and Knightage, London, 1938. page 1732.
    2. The Peerage - Nicholas St John : accessed 7 Feb 2018.
    3. See Henry Saint-George (Sir), The visitation of Wiltshire 1623 (London : G. Bell & Sons, 1882), 41; digital images, InternetArchive.
    4. The Peerage - Robert Nicholas : accessed 8 Feb 2018.
    5. Catalogue of Additions to the Manuscripts of the British Museum. William Clowes and Sons, Limited. London. 1894, p. 161; GoogleBooks.
    6. The Peerage - Jane St John : accessed 7 Feb 2018.
    7. Mosley, Charles, editor. Burke's Peerage, Baronetage & Knightage, 107th edition, 3 volumes. Wilmington, Delaware, U.S.A.: Burke's Peerage (Genealogical Books) Ltd, 2003.
    8. Genealogics by Leo van de Pas - Katherine Nicholas : accessed 8 Feb 2018.
    9. See also: https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/sources/MB2K-YRY
    10. Genealogics by Leo van de Pas - Jane St. John : accessed 8 Feb 2018.
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Jane Nicholas's Timeline

1560
1560
Lydiard Tregoze, Swindon, Wiltshire, England
1590
1590
1596
1596
Camden, Berkshire, England
1608
1608
Age 48
England
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