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Joan Darras (de Corbet)

Also Known As: "Johanna", "de Harley"
Birthdate: (68)
Birthplace: Moreton Corbet, Shropshire, England
Death: circa 1400 (64-72)
Shropshire , England
Immediate Family:

Daughter of Robert Corbet, Lord of Moreton and Elizabeth Strange
Wife of Sir Robert de Harley, of Harley and John Darras, MP
Mother of Alice Pershall
Sister of Thomas Corbet, Esquire; Fulk Corbet, Kt.; Sir Roger Corbet, Kt.; Amice le Strange; Eleanor de Harley / Cotes and 5 others

Managed by: Olivia Rose Horan
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About Joan Darras

https://archive.org/stream/familyofcorbetit02corb/familyofcorbetit02corb_djvu.txt

We have mentioned that Thomas, the eldest son [of Robert Corbet and Elizabeth Strange], who had lately died, left no male heir. His only child, born, Eyton thinks, about 1357, was a daughter called Elizabeth. She married Sir John de Ipstone in 1375, when she was scarcely of age. Her mother's name is simply recorded as " Amice." The second son, Fulk, married ; his wife's name also is only recorded as Elizabeth ; and he too had one only child, a daughter, who bore her mother's and grandmother's name, Elizabeth. Roger was evidently the youngest son. He married Margaret de Erdington of Shawbury, and eventually carried on the succession. We have note of three of Robert's daughters :

Joan and Eleanor married two brothers -- the former married Robert de Harley, and Eleanor Brian de Harley, ancestor of the Earls of Oxford. Amice, as explained in the Papal Registers, married Edward Le Strange of Muddle.


From page 236 of The peerage of England. 3 vols. [in 4. Sig. N6,7 of vol. 1, 3B1 of vol. 2 ... By Arthur Collins

In 4 Rich. Il being styled Joan, -widow of Robert de Harley, she claimed the third part of the manors of Bueld, and Cherlecote, as her dower against Hamond de Pesliall, and Alice hie wife; and her claim was allowed. She was also living in 13 Hen IV. They had if sue an only daughter and heir, Alice, married to Sir Hamond de Pestiall, of the county of Stafford, Knt. (ancestor to the present Sir John Peshall, Bart:) and carried the castle and lordship of Harley, and a great estate, out of the family


From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Darras

Darras married Joan Corbet. The marriage took place before 1390. However, as Darras is not recorded as active on Joan's behalf in the Corbet property disputes of 1385, it must have been in the second half of the 1380s. Darras formally entered the Arundel affinity in 1387, which may coincide approximately with his marriage.

Joan Corbet was the daughter of Sir Robert Corbet (died 1375) of Moreton Corbet.[27] The Corbets of Moreton Corbet had taken over as the senior line of Corbets in the region, as the Corbets at Caus Castle had petered out in 1347.[28] Elizabeth Le Strange, daughter of Fulk, 1st Baron Strange of Blackmere.[29][30] The Le Strange family were another important dynasty of Marcher Lords with many branches. The Blackmere barony was of fairly recent foundation. Elizabeth's father was called to parliament by Edward II and served him as Seneschal of Gascony,[31] the head of the administration of the remaining Plantagenet possessions in France. The title could be passed through both male and female, and the tortuous line of descent of the Le Stranges may have been one of the factors predisposing the Corbets towards reinforcing male primogeniture through dubious property transactions. From 1383 it passed via female descent and marriage to the Talbot family,[28] and was one of the many titles collected together by John Talbot, Baron Furnivall and later Earl of Shrewsbury.

Joan was the widow of Robert de Harley of Willey and had a daughter and heiress, Alice, who married Sir Hamo Peshall or Hamon Peshale. Joan brought a range of properties, acquired from her own family and her first husband, which must have greatly increased Darras's comfort and security while she was alive. She had a considerable amount of jointure property from her first marriage in Shropshire at Harley, Gretton, Willey and Kenley, and in Worcestershire part of a manor at Hampton Lovett,[1] known as Over Hall.[32] Some of theses properties passed to Roger Willey, a relative of Sir Robert Harley, in 1400,[1] presumably on Joan's death: Willey was a business associate of Darras.[33] The Hampton Lovett property, however, was destined for Alice, Joan and Robert Harley's daughter, who married Sir Hamo Peshall.[32]

Joan was almost certainly some years older than Darras. It is not clear whether they had children, although Darras may have left a son named Roger.[1] Joan seems to have died around the turn of the century, with her properties largely leaving his control, prompting Darras to an active and fairly successful search for further sources of income in the years following.

Joan's family, the Corbets of Moreton Corbet Castle were one of the rising gentry families, steadily increasing their estates and their influence.[28] However, they were not of the first rank, and both they and Darras were increasingly to seek advancement through the affinity of the FitzAlans, the Earls of Arundel, who were supreme both economically and politically in Shropshire as well being among the greatest magnates in England.

Joan Corbet's brother, Sir Roger, was preoccupied with family disputes over property, many of which involved Joan. Darras inevitably took his wife's side, sometimes bringing him into disrepute with the king and his government.

Darras hanged himself at Neenton, probably during March 1408. The evidence for the date is a commission from the king, issued on 30 March, to four Shropshire gentry to investigate possible concealment of the deceased's goods,[71] which as a suicide, escheated to the Crown. A formal order for the escheator to take his estates into the hands of the king was issued on 24 May.[72] His holdings would normally have reverted to their feudal overlords but the young Edmund Mortimer, 5th Earl of March was the centre of plots against Henry IV and much of his property was temporarily or permanently forfeit.

Considerable confusion and disputes seem to have followed Darras's unusual and untimely death. ...


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Joan Darras's Timeline

1332
1332
Moreton Corbet, Shropshire, England
1349
1349
Age 17
Brampton Bryan, Herefordshire, England
1400
1400
Age 68
Shropshire , England
1948
August 31, 1948
Age 68
August 31, 1948
Age 68
August 31, 1948
Age 68
1949
May 6, 1949
Age 68
May 6, 1949
Age 68