Joan (or Cecilia) Welles

Joan "Cecilia" Welles

• Gender Female
• Birth c 1401 Methley, Yorkshire, England
• Marriage Aug 15 1417 at St. Oswald's, Metley, Yorkshire, England
• Death Oct 18 1434 Methley, Yorkshire, England
• Father Robert Waterton
• Mother Joan Everingham
• Husband Lionel de Welles

Joan Waterton was born circa 1400 at of Methley, Yorkshire, England.2 She married Sir Lionel Welles, 6th Baron Welles, Lt. of Ireland, son of Eudo de Welles and Maud Greystoke, on 15 August 1417 at St. Oswald's, Methley, Yorkshire, England;

They had 1 son

1. Sir Richard, 7th Lord Welles

and 4 daughters

1. Cecily, wife of Sir Robert Willoughby;
2. Margaret, wife of Sir Thomas Dymoke;
3. Eleanor, wife of Sir Thomas Hoo, of Sir James Lawrence, & of Hugh Hastings; &
4. Katherine, wife of Sir Thomas de la Lounde, & of Robert Tempest, Esq.

Joan Waterton died between 14 October 1434 and 14 April 1447; Buried at Waterton Chapel, Methley, Yorkshire.

Supporting data

Daughter of the 2nd Robert Waterton according to the Overton site.

https://overtown.org.uk/cw/Charles_Waterton/waterton-methley.htm

Wikitree claims this article is some what garbled (see https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Waterton-12)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Waterton#CITEREFRichardson_IV2011

Robert Waterton married, Cecily, daughter of Sir Robert Fleming of Woodhall, sister of Richard Fleming, Bishop of Lincoln, and aunt of Robert Flemming, Dean of Lincoln (1416–1483), by whom he had a son and daughter:[2][12][13][14][15]

• Sir Robert Waterton (I) [see below],
• Joan (Jane) or Cecily Waterton, who married Lionel de Welles, 6th Baron Welles, by whom she had a son and four daughters.[12][2][16][17]

His son, Sir Robert Waterton (I) married firstly, by 1398, Joan Everingham (born 1362), widow of Sir William Elys (d. 1391), and daughter and coheir of Sir William Everingham (d. August 1369 v.p.) of Skinningrove by Alice, daughter of John Grey, 3rd Baron Grey of Codnor (d. 1392) and of her grandfather, Adam de Everingham 2nd Baron Everingham of Laxton (cr. 4 March 1309). By her first husband, Joan Everingham had one son, Robert Elys.[18] By Sir Robert Waterton, she had a further son Sir Robert Waterton (II).

http://www.stirnet.com/genie/data/british/ww/welles01.php#hoo (membership required to view without interruption) “Sir Lionel (Leo) de Welles, 6th Lord, Lieutenant of Ireland (b 1406, d Towton 29.03.1461) Lionel supported the House of Lancaster in the War of the Roses and was attainted after his death. His barony was forfeited but later pardoned. m1. (15.08.1417) Joan (or Cecily) Waterton (dau of Sir Robert Waterton of Waterton & Methley (by Joan, dau of William de Everingham of Laxton), widow of Sir William Elis of Kiddal).”

http://www.cracroftspeerage.co.uk/online/content/welles1299.htm#WELLES_1299_7

Lionel [de Welles], 6th Baron Welles, KG born 1406 mar. (1) 15 Aug 1417 Joan Waterton (d. after 1434; bur. in the Waterton Chapel in St Oswald's Church, Methley, co. York), sister and hrss. in her issue of Sir Robert Waterton, of Waterton and Methley, co. York, and dau. of Sir Robert Waterton, of Waterton and Methley, co. York, by his wife Joan Ellis (widow of Sir William Ellis, of Kiddal, co. York), dau. of William de Everingham, of Laxton, co. Nottingham

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Husband's Name

Lionel (Leo) WELLES (AFN:9FG5-6C)  Pedigree   

Born:  1406  Place:  Of, Welle, Lincolnshire, England   

Died:  29 Mar 1461  Place:  Battle Of Towton, Yorkshire, England   

Buried:    Place:  , Methley, Yorkshire, England   

Married:  15 Aug 1417  Place:  , Methley, Yorkshire, England   

Father:  Eudo WELLES (AFN:9BBZ-M9)  Family  

Mother:  Maud Or Matilda De GREYSTOK (AFN:9BBZ-NG)   

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Wife's Name

Joan (Cecily) WATERTON (AFN:9FGC-FD)  Pedigree  

Born:  Abt 1407  Place:  Of, Methley, Yorkshire, England   

Died:  Aft 18 1434 Oct  Place:     

Buried:    Place:  Waterton Chapel, Methley, Yorkshire, England   

Married:  15 Aug 1417  Place:  , Methley, Yorkshire, England   

Father:  Robert WATERTON (AFN:9HFW-3W)  Family  

Mother:  Joan De EVERINGHAM (AFN:9HFW-2Q)   

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Children

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1.  Sex  Name    

 F Eleanor(Alianor) WELLES (AFN:9FGC-K3)  Pedigree  

   Born:  Abt 1428   Place:  Of, Welle, Lincolnshire, England   

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2.  Sex  Name    

 M Richard De WELLES (AFN:9FGC-GK)  Pedigree   

   Born:  Abt 1428/1430   Place:  Of, Welle, Lincolnshire, England   

   Died:  12 Mar 1469/1470   Place:  Queen, Stamford, Lincolnshire, England   

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3.  Sex  Name    

 F Cecily WELLS (AFN:8TX2-QX)  Pedigree   

   Born:  Abt 1430   Place:  Of, Welle, Lincolnshire, England   

   Died:  1480   Place:    

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4.  Sex  Name    

 F Margaret WELLES (AFN:9FGC-JW)  Pedigree   

   Born:  Abt 1434   Place:  Of, Grimsby, Lincolnshire, England   

   Died:  3 Jul 1480   Place:  , Stamford, Northumberland, England   

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5.  Sex  Name    

 F Catherine WELLES (AFN:9FGC-L8)  Pedigree   

   Born:  Abt 1442   Place:  Of, Welle, Lincolnshire, England   

   Died:  8 Nov 1505   Place:    

References

• https://overtown.org.uk/cw/Charles_Waterton/waterton-methley.htm
• http://our-royal-titled-noble-and-commoner-ancestors.com/p512.htm#i15378 Citations

1. [S4130] Unknown author, Magna Charta Sureties, 1215, 4th Ed., by F. L. Weis, p. 86; Plantagenet Ancestry of 17th Century Colonists, by David Faris, p. 277.
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3. [S15] Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, p. 875-876.
4. [S16] Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. III, p. 428.
5. [S16] Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. IV, p. 305.
6. [S16] Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. IV, p. 339.
7. [S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. III, p. 307-308.
8. [S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. IV, p. 461-462.
9. [S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. V, p. 331-332.
10. [S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. V, p. 365.
11. [S5] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry, p. 758.
12. [S5] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry, p. 762.
13. [S5] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry, p. 605.

• https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/74659412/Joan-Welles
• Yorkshire Archaeological Journal Vol. 30. John Whitehead & Son, Leeds, 1931, p. 383. Archive.Org
• *http://www.stirnet.com/genie/data/british/ww/welles01.php#hoo (membership required to view without interruption) “Sir Lionel (Leo) de Welles, 6th Lord, Lieutenant of Ireland (b 1406, d Towton 29.03.1461)
• https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Waterton-2
• Gary Boyd Roberts. Ancestors of American Presidents New England Historic Genealogical Society, Boston, Massachusetts, 2009.
• Mary Hillard Hinton, Genealogist, Raleigh, NC •Extinct and Dormant Peerages, 1831 •Magna Carta Barons and their Descendants, pgs. 159, 241, 269, 270, 292 •Virginia Heraldica, pgs. 66, 69, 87, 88 •Ancestral Papers #119, of the National Society of Runnymeade •Wurt's Magna Carta •The Carter Family
• Visitation of Norfolk “Brampton” page 52. [https://archive.org/stream/publicationsofha32harluoft#page/51/mode/1up Archive.Org
• http://freepages.rootsweb.com/~hwbradley/genealogy/aqwg2638.htm#70230
• Yorkshire Archaeological Journal Vol. 30. “Burgh and Waterton Families.” Page 386 Archive.Org
• “The Lincolnshire Gentry and the Wars of the Roses.” By Jonathan S. Mackman. Welles pedigree, page 300.