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Joan (or Cecilia) Welles (Waterton)

Also Known As: "Cecily", "Waterton", "Watertown"
Birthdate:
Birthplace: Methley, West Yorkshire, England
Death: October 18, 1434 (26-38)
Methley, West Yorkshire, England
Place of Burial: Methley, West Yorkshire, England, United Kingdom
Immediate Family:

Daughter of Sir Robert Waterton, Esq., of Methley and Joan de Waterton
Wife of Lionel de Welles, 6th Baron Welles
Mother of Cecily Willoughby; Lady Margaret Dymoke; Katherine Tempest; William de Welles; Richard de Welles, 7th Baron Welles and 1 other
Sister of Sir Robert Waterton
Half sister of Robert Elys and Joan Poucher

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About Joan (or Cecilia) Welles

Joan "Cecilia" Welles

  • Gender Female
  • Birth c 1401 Methley, Yorkshire, England
  • Marriage Aug 15 1417 at St. Oswald's, Metley, Yorkshire, England
  • Death Oct 18 1434 Methley, Yorkshire, England
  • Father Robert Waterton
  • Mother Joan Everingham
  • Husband Lionel de Welles

Joan Waterton was born circa 1400 at of Methley, Yorkshire, England.2 She married Sir Lionel Welles, 6th Baron Welles, Lt. of Ireland, son of Eudo de Welles and Maud Greystoke, on 15 August 1417 at St. Oswald's, Methley, Yorkshire, England;

They had 1 son

  1. Sir Richard, 7th Lord Welles

and 4 daughters

  1. Cecily, wife of Sir Robert Willoughby;
  2. Margaret, wife of Sir Thomas Dymoke;
  3. Eleanor, wife of Sir Thomas Hoo, of Sir James Lawrence, & of Hugh Hastings; &
  4. Katherine, wife of Sir Thomas de la Lounde, & of Robert Tempest, Esq.

Joan Waterton died between 14 October 1434 and 14 April 1447; Buried at Waterton Chapel, Methley, Yorkshire.

Supporting data

Daughter of the 2nd Robert Waterton according to the Overton site.

https://overtown.org.uk/cw/Charles_Waterton/waterton-methley.htm


Wikitree claims this article is some what garbled (see https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Waterton-12)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Waterton#CITEREFRichardson_IV2011

Robert Waterton married, Cecily, daughter of Sir Robert Fleming of Woodhall, sister of Richard Fleming, Bishop of Lincoln, and aunt of Robert Flemming, Dean of Lincoln (1416–1483), by whom he had a son and daughter:[2][12][13][14][15]

  • Sir Robert Waterton (I) [see below],
  • Joan (Jane) or Cecily Waterton, who married Lionel de Welles, 6th Baron Welles, by whom she had a son and four daughters.[12][2][16][17]

His son, Sir Robert Waterton (I) married firstly, by 1398, Joan Everingham (born 1362), widow of Sir William Elys (d. 1391), and daughter and coheir of Sir William Everingham (d. August 1369 v.p.) of Skinningrove by Alice, daughter of John Grey, 3rd Baron Grey of Codnor (d. 1392) and of her grandfather, Adam de Everingham 2nd Baron Everingham of Laxton (cr. 4 March 1309). By her first husband, Joan Everingham had one son, Robert Elys.[18] By Sir Robert Waterton, she had a further son Sir Robert Waterton (II).


http://www.stirnet.com/genie/data/british/ww/welles01.php#hoo (membership required to view without interruption) “Sir Lionel (Leo) de Welles, 6th Lord, Lieutenant of Ireland (b 1406, d Towton 29.03.1461) Lionel supported the House of Lancaster in the War of the Roses and was attainted after his death. His barony was forfeited but later pardoned. m1. (15.08.1417) Joan (or Cecily) Waterton (dau of Sir Robert Waterton of Waterton & Methley (by Joan, dau of William de Everingham of Laxton), widow of Sir William Elis of Kiddal).”


http://www.cracroftspeerage.co.uk/online/content/welles1299.htm#WELLES_1299_7

Lionel [de Welles], 6th Baron Welles, KG born 1406 mar. (1) 15 Aug 1417 Joan Waterton (d. after 1434; bur. in the Waterton Chapel in St Oswald's Church, Methley, co. York), sister and hrss. in her issue of Sir Robert Waterton, of Waterton and Methley, co. York, and dau. of Sir Robert Waterton, of Waterton and Methley, co. York, by his wife Joan Ellis (widow of Sir William Ellis, of Kiddal, co. York), dau. of William de Everingham, of Laxton, co. Nottingham


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Husband's Name

Lionel (Leo) WELLES (AFN:9FG5-6C)  Pedigree   
Born:  1406  Place:  Of, Welle, Lincolnshire, England   
Died:  29 Mar 1461  Place:  Battle Of Towton, Yorkshire, England   
Buried:    Place:  , Methley, Yorkshire, England   
Married:  15 Aug 1417  Place:  , Methley, Yorkshire, England   

Father:  Eudo WELLES (AFN:9BBZ-M9)  Family  
Mother:  Maud Or Matilda De GREYSTOK (AFN:9BBZ-NG)   

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Wife's Name

Joan (Cecily) WATERTON (AFN:9FGC-FD)  Pedigree  

Born:  Abt 1407  Place:  Of, Methley, Yorkshire, England   
Died:  Aft 18 1434 Oct  Place:     
Buried:    Place:  Waterton Chapel, Methley, Yorkshire, England   
Married:  15 Aug 1417  Place:  , Methley, Yorkshire, England   

Father:  Robert WATERTON (AFN:9HFW-3W)  Family  
Mother:  Joan De EVERINGHAM (AFN:9HFW-2Q)   

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Children

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1.  Sex  Name    
 F Eleanor(Alianor) WELLES (AFN:9FGC-K3)  Pedigree  
   Born:  Abt 1428   Place:  Of, Welle, Lincolnshire, England   

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2.  Sex  Name    
 M Richard De WELLES (AFN:9FGC-GK)  Pedigree   
   Born:  Abt 1428/1430   Place:  Of, Welle, Lincolnshire, England   
   Died:  12 Mar 1469/1470   Place:  Queen, Stamford, Lincolnshire, England   

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3.  Sex  Name    
 F Cecily WELLS (AFN:8TX2-QX)  Pedigree   
   Born:  Abt 1430   Place:  Of, Welle, Lincolnshire, England   
   Died:  1480   Place:    

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4.  Sex  Name    
 F Margaret WELLES (AFN:9FGC-JW)  Pedigree   
   Born:  Abt 1434   Place:  Of, Grimsby, Lincolnshire, England   
   Died:  3 Jul 1480   Place:  , Stamford, Northumberland, England   

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5.  Sex  Name    
 F Catherine WELLES (AFN:9FGC-L8)  Pedigree   
   Born:  Abt 1442   Place:  Of, Welle, Lincolnshire, England   
   Died:  8 Nov 1505   Place:    

References

  1. [S4130] Unknown author, Magna Charta Sureties, 1215, 4th Ed., by F. L. Weis, p. 86; Plantagenet Ancestry of 17th Century Colonists, by David Faris, p. 277.
  2. [S5] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry, p. 758-759.
  3. [S15] Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, p. 875-876.
  4. [S16] Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. III, p. 428.
  5. [S16] Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. IV, p. 305.
  6. [S16] Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. IV, p. 339.
  7. [S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. III, p. 307-308.
  8. [S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. IV, p. 461-462.
  9. [S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. V, p. 331-332.
  10. [S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. V, p. 365.
  11. [S5] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry, p. 758.
  12. [S5] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry, p. 762.
  13. [S5] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry, p. 605.
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Joan (or Cecilia) Welles's Timeline

1400
1400
Methley, West Yorkshire, England
1428
1428
Welles, Lincolnshire, England
1429
1429
Welle, Lincolnshire, England
1431
1431
Welle, Lincolnshire, England
1434
October 18, 1434
Age 34
Methley, West Yorkshire, England
1434
Welle, Lincolnshire, , England
1434
Wells, Lincolnshire, England
1944
December 21, 1944
Age 34
1945
February 6, 1945
Age 34