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Joan de Furnival, Baroness Furnivalle

Also Known As: "Joan Furnivalle"
Birthdate:
Birthplace: Yorkshire, England
Death: May 23, 1395 (16-24)
Priory, Nottinghamshire, England
Place of Burial: Worksop, Yorkshire, England, United Kingdom
Immediate Family:

Daughter of Sir William de Furnival, 4th Baron Furnival and Thomasine de Furnival
Wife of Thomas de Neville, 5th Baron Furnivall
Mother of Margaret de Neville; Maud de Neville, Countess of Shrewsbury, Baroness Furnivalle and Joan de Neville

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About Joan de Furnival, Baroness Furnivalle

  • Joan Furnivall1,2,3,4,5,6,7
  • F, #11087, b. October 1368, d. between 23 May 1395 and 31 December 1395
  • Father Sir William de Furnival, 4th Baron Furnivall8,9,10,7 b. 23 Aug 1326, d. 12 Apr 1383
  • Mother Thomasine8,9,10 b. c 1333, d. 20 Jul 1409
  • Joan Furnivall was born in October 1368 at of Sheffield, Yorkshire, England; Age 14 years and 7 months in May 1383.2,4,5 She married Sir Thomas Neville, Lord Furnival, Treasurer of England, Keeper of Annandale, Keeper of the Castles of Berwick-on-Tweed, Alnwick, & Warkworth, Constable of Lochmaben Castle, son of Sir John de Neville, 3rd Baron Neville, Ambassador to France, Admiral of the Fleet Northwards, Lt. of Aquitaine and Maud de Percy, before 1 July 1379; They had 1 daughter (Maud, wife of Sir John, 7th Lord Talbot, 1st Earl of Shrewsbury, Count of Clermont).11,2,3,4,5,6,7 Joan Furnivall died between 23 May 1395 and 31 December 1395; Buried in Worksop Priory, Nottinghamshire.2,4,5
  • Family Sir Thomas Neville, Lord Furnival, Treasurer of England, Keeper of Annandale, Keeper of the Castles of Berwick-on-Tweed, Alnwick, & Warkworth, Constable of Lochmaben Castle d. 14 Mar 1407
  • Child
    • Maud Neville+12,2,4,5,7 b. c 1392, d. 13 Dec 1423
  • Citations
  • [S2881] Unknown author, The Complete Peerage, by Cokayne, Vol. V, p. 589-591; Lineage and Ancestry of HRH Prince Charles by Paget, Vol. II, p. 405; Burke's Peerage, 1938, p. 1057.
  • [S5] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry, p. 737.
  • [S16] Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. III, p. 245.
  • [S16] Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. IV, p. 258-259.
  • [S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. III, p. 52.
  • [S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. IV, p. 231.
  • [S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. V, p. 121-122.
  • [S5] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry, p. 736-737.
  • [S16] Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. IV, p. 258.
  • [S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. III, p. 51.
  • [S5] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry, p. 539-540.
  • [S5] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry, p. 704.
  • From: http://our-royal-titled-noble-and-commoner-ancestors.com/p369.htm#i11087

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  • Joan de Furnevalle, 5th Baroness Furnival1
  • F, #14139, b. circa 1369, d. before 1400
  • Last Edited=9 Jul 2011
  • Joan de Furnevalle, 5th Baroness Furnival was born circa 1369.1 She was the daughter of William de Furnevalle, 4th Lord Furnival.1 She married Thomas de Neville, 5th Lord Furnival, son of John de Neville, 3rd Lord Neville and Maud de Percy, before 1 July 1379.1 She died before 1400.
  • From before 1 July 1379, her married name became de Neville.1 She gained the title of 5th Baroness Furnival [E., 1295] in 1383, suo jure.
  • Child of Joan de Furnevalle, 5th Baroness Furnival and Thomas de Neville, 5th Lord Furnival
    • Maud de Neville, Baroness Furnival+1 b. c 1392, d. c 1423
  • Citations
  • [S8] BP1999 volume 1, page 14. See link for full details for this source. Hereinafter cited as. [S8]
  • From: http://www.thepeerage.com/p1414.htm#i14139

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  • Joan De Furnival De Neville
  • Birth: 1375 West Yorkshire, England
  • Death: May 23, 1395 Nottinghamshire, England
  • Daughter of Baron William de Furnival, IV and Thomasine Dagworth
  • Wife of Baron Thomas de Neville,
  • Mother of Margaret de Neville; Maud Talbot (De Neville) and Joan de Neville
  • Family links:
  • Parents:
  • William Furnival (____ - 1383)
  • Spouse:
  • Thomas De Neville (1362 - 1406)*
  • Children:
    • Maud Neville Talbot (1392 - 1423)*
  • Burial: Worksop Priory, Worksop, Bassetlaw District, Nottinghamshire, England
  • Find A Grave Memorial# 91147285
  • From: http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=91147285

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  • Baron Furnivall is an ancient title in the Peerage of England. It was originally created (by writ) when Thomas de Furnivall was summoned to the Model Parliament of 1295 as Lord Furnivall. The barony eventually passed to Thomas Nevill, who had married the first baron's descendant Joan de Furnivall, and he was summoned to parliament in her right. Their daughter, Maud de Neville, married John Talbot, who was also summoned to parliament in her right. He was later created Earl of Shrewsbury. On the death of the seventh earl in 1616, the barony fell into abeyance. The abeyance was terminated naturally in favour of the earl's daughter Alethea Howard in 1651 and passed through her to the Dukes of Norfolk. On the death of the ninth Duke in 1777, the barony again fell into abeyance. In 1913 the abeyance was terminated again in favour of Mary Frances Katherine Petre, daughter of Bernard Petre, 14th Baron Petre. Through her father she was a great-great-great-granddaughter of the ninth Baron Petre and his first wife Anne Howard, niece of the ninth Duke of Norfolk (and 18th Baron Furnivall), who became co-heir to the Barony on her uncle's death in 1777. On Lady Furnivall's death in 1968 the barony fell into abeyance for the third time.
  • Barons Furnivall (1295)
  • Thomas de Furnivall, 1st Baron Furnivall (d. 1332)
  • Thomas de Furnivall, 2nd Baron Furnivall (1301–1339)
  • Thomas de Furnivall, 3rd Baron Furnivall (1322–1364)
  • William de Furnivall, 4th Baron Furnivall (d. 1383)
  • Thomas Nevill, 5th Baron Furnivall (d. 1407)
  • Maud Nevill, 6th Baroness Furnivall
    • John Talbot, 6th Baron Furnivall jure uxoris (1390–1453) (created Earl of Shrewsbury and Waterford in 1442)
  • John Talbot, 2nd Earl of Shrewsbury, 7th Baron Furnivall (1413–1460)
  • John Talbot, 3rd Earl of Shrewsbury, 8th Baron Furnivall (1448–1473)
  • George Talbot, 4th Earl of Shrewsbury, 9th Baron Furnivall (1468–1538)
  • Francis Talbot, 5th Earl of Shrewsbury, 10th Baron Furnivall (1500–1560)
  • George Talbot, 6th Earl of Shrewsbury, 11th Baron Furnivall (1522–1590)
  • Gilbert Talbot, 7th Earl of Shrewsbury, 12th Baron Furnivall (1552–1616) (abeyant 1616)
    • Co-heirs: Mary Herbert, Countess of Pembroke (died 1649 without issue); Elizabeth Grey, Countess of Kent (died 1651 without issue); and Alethea Howard, Countess of Arundel (died 1654 with issue)
  • Alethea Howard, 13th Baroness Furnivall (d. 1654) (abeyance terminated as sole heir 1651)
  • Thomas Howard, 5th Duke of Norfolk, 14th Baron Furnivall (1627–1677)
  • Henry Howard, 6th Duke of Norfolk, 15th Baron Furnivall (1628–1684)
  • Henry Howard, 7th Duke of Norfolk, 16th Baron Furnivall (1655–1701)
  • Thomas Howard, 8th Duke of Norfolk, 17th Baron Furnivall (1683–1732)
  • Edward Howard, 9th Duke of Norfolk, 18th Baron Furnivall (1685–1777) (abeyant 1777)
    • List of co-heirs:
  • .... etc.
  • From: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baron_Furnivall

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  • Thomas NEVILLE (6º B. Furnival)
  • Born: ABT 1362/1367, Raby, Durham, England
  • Died: 14 Mar 1406/7
  • Notes: The Complete Peerage vol.V,p.589. Treasurer of England
  • Father: John NEVILLE (3° B. Neville of Raby)
  • Mother: Maud PERCY (B. Neville of Raby)
  • Married 1: Joan FURNIVAL (B. Furnival) (b. 1361) BEF 1 Jul 1379, Alton, Staffordshire, England
  • Married 2: Ankaret Le STRANGE (B. Strange of Blackmere) 4 Jul 1401, Whitechurch, England
  • Children:
    • 1. Maud NEVILLE (B. Le Strange/C.Shrewsbury)
    • 2. Joan NEVILLE
  • From: http://www.tudorplace.com.ar/NEVILLE1.htm#Thomas NEVILLE (6º B. Furnival)

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  • Dictionary of National Biography, 1885-1900, Volume 40
  • Neville, John de by James Tait
  • NEVILLE, JOHN de, fifth Baron Neville of Raby (d. 1388), was the eldest son of Ralph de Neville, fourth baron Neville of Raby [q. v.], by his wife Alice, daughter of Sir Hugh de Audley of Stratton-Audley, in Oxfordshire, and aunt of Sir James Audley, one of the most gallant followers of the Black Prince (Beltz, Memorials of the Order of the Garter, p. 75). His brothers, .... etc.
  • Neville was twice married: first, to Maud Percy, daughter of Henry, lord Percy (d. 1352), and aunt of the first Earl of Northumberland; and, secondly, to Elizabeth, only daughter and heiress of William, lord Latimer of Danby in Cleveland. Neville had already issue by her when, in 1381, he received livery of her inheritance. She afterwards married Robert, fourth lord Willoughby de Eresby (d. 1396), and died on 5 Nov. 1395 (Dugdale; Surtees, History of Durham, iv. 159).
  • By his first wife Neville had two sons—(1) Ralph III, sixth baron Neville of Raby and first earl of Westmorland [q. v.]; (2) Thomas, who married Joan, daughter of the last Baron Furnival, on whose death, in 1383, he was summoned to parliament as Thomas Neville ‘of Hallamshire,’ though generally called Lord Furnival (Nicolas, Historic Peerage). He was war-treasurer under Henry IV, and died in 1406, and his only child, Maud, carried the barony of Furnival to John Talbot, afterwards the great Earl of Shrewsbury.
  • The daughters of the first marriage were: .... etc.
  • [Rotuli Parliamentorum; Rymer's Fœdera, original and Record editions; Lords' Report on the Dignity of a Peer; Galfrid le Baker, ed. Maunde Thompson; Chronicon Angliæ, 1328–88, and Registrum Palatinum Dunelmense, in Rolls Ser.; Chandos Herald's Black Prince, ed. Francisque-Michel; Froissart, ed. Luce (to 1377) and Kervyn de Lettenhove; Chronique du bon Duc Louis de Bourbon, published by the Société de l'Histoire de France; Wills and Inventories, ed. James Raine for the Surtees Soc., vol. i.; Surtees's History of Durham, vol. iv.; Swallow's De Nova Villa, 1885; Dugdale's Baronage; Segar's Baronagium Genealogicum, ed. Edmondson; Nicolas's Historic Peerage, ed. Courthope; Beltz's Memorials of the Order of the Garter; Barnes's History of Edward III; Selby's Genealogist, iii. 107, &c.]
  • From: https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Neville,_John_de_(DNB00)
  • https://archive.org/stream/dictionaryofnati40stepuoft#page/262/mode/1up to https://archive.org/stream/dictionaryofnati40stepuoft#page/265/mode/1up

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  • IS THERE MORE THEN ONE THOMAS NEVILLE WHO MARRIED A JOAN FURNIVALL OR ARE THESE NOT THE CORRECT PARENTS OR WIFE? THOMAS IS LISTED AS THE SON OF MARGARET de la POLE & SIR ROBERT (III) de NEVILLE
  • Joan Furnivall1
  • F, #107399
  • Last Edited=24 Apr 2002
  • Child of Joan Furnivall and Sir Thomas de Neville
    • Lady Margaret de Neville+1 b. c 1384, d. bt 1413 - 1426
  • Citations
  • [S11] Alison Weir, Britain's Royal Families: The Complete Genealogy (London, U.K.: The Bodley Head, 1999), page 107. Hereinafter cited as Britain's Royal Families.
  • From: http://www.thepeerage.com/p10740.htm#i107399

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  • IS THERE MORE THEN ONE THOMAS NEVILLE WHO MARRIED A JOAN FURNIVALL OR ARE THESE NOT THE CORRECT PARENTS OR WIFE?
  • Thomas NEVILLE of Hornby (Sir)
  • Born: ABT 1345
  • Died: 1387
  • Father: Robert De NEVILLE of Hornby (Sir)
  • Mother: Margaret De La POLE
  • Married: Joan FURNIVAL
  • Children:
    • 1. Margaret NEVILLE
  • From: http://www.tudorplace.com.ar/NEVILLE1.htm#Thomas NEVILLE of Hornby (Sir)1

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  • IS THERE MORE THEN ONE THOMAS NEVILLE WHO MARRIED A JOAN FURNIVALL OR ARE THESE NOT THE CORRECT PARENTS OR WIFE?
  • John of Gaunt, 1st Duke of Lancaster, KG (6 March 1340 – 3 February 1399) was a member of the House of Plantagenet, the third surviving son of King Edward III of England and Philippa of Hainault. He was called "John of Gaunt" because he was born in Ghent, then rendered in English as Gaunt. When he became unpopular later in life, scurrilous rumours and lampoons circulated that he was actually the son of a Ghent butcher, perhaps because Edward III was not present at the birth. This story always drove him to fury.[2]
  • .... etc.
  • By Katherine Swynford (née de Roet/Roelt), mistress and later wife (children legitimised 1397):
    • John Beaufort, 1st Earl of Somerset (1373–1410)—married Margaret Holland.
    • Henry Beaufort, Bishop of Winchester and Cardinal (1375–1447)
    • Thomas Beaufort, Duke of Exeter (1377–1427), married Margaret Neville, daughter of Sir Thomas de Neville and Joan Furnivall.
    • Joan Beaufort (1379–1440)—married first Robert Ferrers, 5th Baron Boteler of Wem and second Ralph Neville, 1st Earl of Westmoreland.
  • By Marie de St. Hilaire of Hainaut, mistress: .... etc.
  • From: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_of_Gaunt

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  • IS THERE MORE THEN ONE THOMAS NEVILLE WHO MARRIED A JOAN FURNIVALL OR ARE THESE NOT THE CORRECT PARENTS OR WIFE?
  • Sir Thomas de Beaufort
  • Birth: Jan., 1377, England
  • Death: Dec. 27, 1426 Greenwich, Greater London, England
  • Third of four children and third son of John of Gaunt and Katherine de Roet. Grandson of King Edward III of England and Phillipa de Hainhault, and Sir Payne de Roet.
  • Husband of Lady Margaret de Neville, the daughter of Sir Thomas de Neville of Horneby and Joan de Furnivalle. They were the parents of Henry de Beaufort who died very young.
  • Thomas was legitimitised in 1397 by Parliament, even though he was born before his parent's marriage. He was invested as a Knight, Order of the Garter circa 1400, became the Earl of Dorset on 05 July 1411, Lieutenant of Aquitaine in 1413, the 1st Duke of Exeter on 18 November 1416, Lieutenant of Normandy in 1416, achieved the title of Lord of Lillebonne on 01 July 1418, and the title of Count of Harcourt on 1 July 1418.
  • Thomas was a military commander during the Hundred Year War and the Chancellor of England 1410 to 1412. He held many posts including the constable of Ludlow, admiral of the fleet of the northern parts, and admiral of the northern and western seas for life. He commanded forces against the northern rebellion in 1405.
  • Family links:
  • Parents:
  • John Duke of Lancaster Plantagenet (1340 - 1399)
  • Katherine Roet Swynford (1350 - 1403)
  • Siblings:
  • Philippa of Lancaster (1360 - 1415)**
  • Elizabeth Lancaster (1363 - 1425)**
  • Henry Plantagenet-Lancaster (1367 - 1413)**
  • Thomas Swynford (1368 - 1432)**
  • John de Beaufort (1371 - 1410)*
  • Catherine Plantagenet Of Lancaster (1373 - 1418)**
  • Henry Beaufort (1374 - 1447)*
  • Joan Beaufort Neville (1375 - 1440)*
  • Thomas de Beaufort (1377 - 1426)
  • *Calculated relationship
  • **Half-sibling
  • Burial: Bury St Edmunds Abbey, Bury St Edmunds, St Edmundsbury Borough, Suffolk, England
  • Find A Grave Memorial# 86765923
  • From: http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=86765923

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JOAN de Furnival

daughter of WILLIAM de Furnivalle Lord Furnivalle & his wife Thomasine de Dagworth of Dagworth, Suffolk née --- (1368-before 1401, bur Worksop Priory).  She succeeded as Baroness Furnivalle, suo iuris.

Child:

MATILDA Neville ([1392]-[1423], bur Worksop Priory, Nottinghamshire).  She succeeded as Baroness Furnivalle, suo iuris.  m (12 Mar 1407) as his first wife, JOHN Talbot, son of RICHARD Talbot Lord Talbot & his wife Ankaret Lestrange Baroness Strange (1384-killed in battle Castillon, Dordogne 17 Jul 1453, bur St Alkmund's, Whitchurch, Shropshire).  He succeeded his niece in 1421 as Lord Talbot, Lord Strange.  He was created Earl of Shrewsbury 20 May 1442. 

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Joan de Furnival, Baroness Furnivalle's Timeline

1375
1375
Yorkshire, England
1384
1384
Age 9
or from Hornby Castle, Lancashire, England
1392
December 21, 1392
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Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England
1394
1394
Age 19
Of, Raby, Durham, England
1395
May 23, 1395
Age 20
Priory, Nottinghamshire, England
1935
July 29, 1935
Age 20
July 29, 1935
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July 29, 1935
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