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John Bate, of Lydd

Also Known As: "Bates"
Birthdate: (62)
Birthplace: Lydd, Kent, England
Death: July 7, 1522 (62)
Lydd, Kent, England
Immediate Family:

Son of Thomas Bate, Sr., of Lydd and Margaret Bate
Husband of Sara Roberts and Agnes
Father of Andrew Bate; Thomas Bate; Thomas Bate and Andrew Bates, of Lydd
Brother of Richard Bates; Andrew Bate; Alice Bate; William Bates; Agnes Bate and 1 other
Half brother of William Bate

Occupation: Jurat of Lydd of the Parish of All Hallows
Managed by: Daniel Robert May
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About John Bate, of Lydd

Burial Church of All Saints, Lydd, Kent, England. Jurat of Lydd of the Parish of All Hallows. Will dated July 31,1522 & proved September 17, 1522. ______________________________________________________________________________

Bate family reading The Origin of Capitalism in England, 1400–1600 By Spencer Dimmock a John, Andrew, and Heny Bate in Lydd Henry was a butcher and had 4 daughters Andrew appears to be a partner, per Dimmock. He also talks about Andrew Bate-vicious and intimidating.

Henry Bate will of 1478 mentioned page 256 Left money to 4 daughters and wife also mentioned (no name in this book).

another book

This book mentions Andrew the Butcher of Lydd and he had a brother, but no name. _______________________________________________________________________________

. John BATE

      John Bate was a Jurat of Lydd, Parish of All Hallows, England.
      His wife died before 31 Jul 1522. They had 2 children on
      Thomas Andrew d after 22 Feb 1532/3
      John died between 31 Jul and 17 Sep 1522.
      Source : Bates, George E. _Bates - Breed Ancestry, Boston,
      MA, 1975. Section A1 p. 18.
      Harding claims that Thomas' son John died in 1522.
      Source : Harding, Louis B., _Bates_, unpublished family notes.
      Newton Bates writes, "It is possible that this John, son of
      Thomas, is the ancestral John who died in 1522. If this
      conjecture be correct the line would be through Thomas Bate."
      (P. 2.) Given Harding's claim that this is correct, it seems
      reasonable to consider accepting Newton Bates' lineage.
      John Bate of Lydd died in 1522. He was Jurat of Lydd, and left
      about 20 pounds to the Lydd church in his will.
      Source : Bates, Newton W., _Bates Genealogy : the Ancestors and
      Descendants of Asa Bates of Cumminghan, Mass._, 1904
      Wife of John Bate, the mother of Andrew Bate
      This woman died before 31 Jul 1522.
      Source : Bates, George E. _Bates - Breed Ancestry_, Boston, MA,
   d. BEF 17 Sep 1522, Lydd, Kent, Eng.
   ch:   *Andrew [Next Generation]

________________________________________________________________________________ Will Date: 31 JUL 1522 Place: Lydd, Co. Kent, England Note: 'John Bate of Lydd, county Kent, England, jurat, in his will, dated July 31 and proved Sept. 17, 1522, names his sons Thomas and Andrew as executors, mentions the wife of Andrew and Joan the daughter of Andrew. England was a Catholic country at this time and the will provides bequests for the high altar, for the reparation of the church, to a priest to sing for his soul, to poor people for the health of his soul for five years next after his death, for a dirge for his soul, for four masses, one each of 'Our Lady,' of the Trinity, of the Holy Ghost and of Requiem, and as many at his month's day and twelve month's day, and provides payment for the priests for singing these masses.[4]

Text: Sources

↑ Source: #S2324549830 Note: ↑ Source: #S2324549830 Note: ↑ Source: #S2324549830 Note: ↑ Source: #S174 Page: p.9-10 ↑ Source: #S174 Page: p.9-10 Source: S174 Title: Ancestral Line for Eight Generations of Capt. Lemuel Bates, 1720-1820, with some records of his descendants Author: Bates, Albert Carlos Publication: Author, Hartford CT, 1943 Repository: #R18 Call Number: 929.2 B3184B Source S155 Source: S2205467922 Title: Ancestry Family Trees Publication: Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: Original data: Family Tree files submitted by Ancestry members. Text: Repository: #R19 Source: S2324549830 Title: Millennium File Author: Heritage Consulting Publication: Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: Operations Inc, 2003.Original data - Heritage Consulting. The Millennium File. Salt Lake City, UT, USA: Heritage Consulting.Original data: Heritage Consulting. The Millennium File. Salt Lake City, UT, USA Repository: #R19 Repository: R18 Name: Allen County Public Library Address: City: Ft Wayne State: IN Repository R19 Name: Address:

Source: Bates, Bears and Bunker Hill p.15

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Thomas BATE

Born: ABT 1430 - Lydd, Kent, England Marr: - Lydd, Kent, England Died: BET 19 OCT 1485 AND 19 APR 1486 - Lydd, Kent, England Father: Thomas BATE Mother: Other Spouses: Wife


Born: - Died: - Father: Mother: Other Spouses: Children

1. Juliane BATE

Born: - Lydd, Kent, England Marr: 1470 - William ADAMS Died: AFT 14 OCT 1490 - England 2. Thomas BATE , Jr. Born: - Lydd, Kent, England Died: - 3. John BATE , Sr.

Born: - Lydd, Kent, England Died: - 4. Alice BATE

Born: - Lydd, Kent, England Died: -



Bates, Bate Family 2 - related through Thomas and Margaret's daughter Juliane and son John

Thomas BATE born circa 1430 Lydd, died circa 1485-6

Spouse: Margaret CAULKIN

Children: Juliane; Thomas; John; Alice

Juliane BATE died after 1490

Spouse: William ADAMS / ADAM born circa 1470 of Lydd

Children: Andrew

bate family of Lydd Bates, Bears and Bunker Hill with a Correction Or Two

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John Bate, of Lydd's Timeline

January 1460
Lydd, Kent, England
Age 32
Lydd, Kent, , England
Age 34
Lydd, Kent, England
July 7, 1522
Age 62
Lydd, Kent, England
Age 62