John "Cherokee" Vann, Translator / Interpreter

Is your surname Vann?

Research the Vann family

John "Cherokee" Vann, Translator / Interpreter's Geni Profile

Share your family tree and photos with the people you know and love

  • Build your family tree online
  • Share photos and videos
  • Smart Matching™ technology
  • Free!

Share

John "Cherokee" Vann, Translator / Interpreter

Birthdate:
Birthplace: Running Water, Tennessee
Death: Died in Murray, Georgia, United States
Cause of death: Smallpox
Immediate Family:

Son of John "Young Trader" Vann and Elizabeth Raven-Hop Moytoy, Raven's Sister
Husband of Agnes Ruth Weatherford; Polly Terrapin and Catherine Hop (Cherokee Woman) Vann
Father of Keziah Maney; John Isaac Vann; George Vann; John Boy Vann; Nancy Vann and 4 others
Brother of Wah-Li (Polly) Vann and Elizabeth "Betty" Quedi Vann
Half brother of Nancy Vann; James Hughes; Charles Hughes and Sarah Waters

Occupation: Plantation owner
Managed by: C. (Carr) Hulshizer
Last Updated:

About John "Cherokee" Vann, Translator / Interpreter

Notes for JOHN CHEROKEE VANN III, son of JOHN TRADER VANN II (JOHN1) Abt. 1715- Aft. 1770 and SISTER OF RAVEN Abt. 1746, daughter of A-NU-WA-GI MOYTOY :

Don Greene, Shawnee Heritage XI #133: In 1770 he was appointed official translater by Alexander Cameron.

Spouse 1: 1762: Agnes Weatherford

children:

  • Keziah Vann b 1763 married in 1781 to Martin Maney b 1748
  • John Vann b 1765 d after 1817

Spouse 2: 1765, Catherine French

children:

  • John Oowayne Vann b. 1766 d. aft. 1814 marr 1787 Mary Hughes b. 1770
  • child b 1768
  • child b. 1770
  • child b. 1772
  • Rebcca Vann b. 1774; marr 1788 Unknown; marr 1802 Charles Ulutse Moore (b. 1774)
  • Otiyu Vann b 1776 marr 1804 John Bowles "Chief Bowl" (b 1756)
  • Lucinda Vann b. 1780 d. 1802 marr. 1799 Charles Uutse Moore (b. 1774 d. aft 1837)
  • child b. 1782
  • child b 1784

Spouse 3: 1788: Polly Terrapin-Watts

children:

  • George Vann b 1790 d. aft. 1851 marr 1810 Elisi Swimmer (b. 1795); marr. 1824 Chioyuka Swimmer (b. 1806)
  • John Boy Vann b. 1792 d. aft. 1830. marr 1812 Unknown; marr. 1830 Tiana Fields b. 1800


From the Cherokee genealogical database of James R. Hicks: http://www.genealogy.com/ftm/h/i/c/James-R-Hicks-VA/GENE1-0003.html

JOHN CHEROKEE VANN III (JOHN TRADER2, JOHN1) (Source: C002, SPMS.) was born Abt. 1746 in Eastern Tennessee, and died Abt. 1805.

He married (1) AGNES WEATHERFORD Bef. 1763.She was born Abt. 1746.

He married (2) CHEROKEE WOMAN Abt. 1766.She was born Abt. 1748.

He married (3) POLLY TERRAPIN (Source: C002, SPMS.) Bef. 1793, daughter of THE TERRAPIN and OLD JENNIE.She was born Abt. 1768, and died Abt. 1833.

Notes for JOHN CHEROKEE VANN III:

Moravian Journals, 12/20/1806; refers to Polly Terrapin's husband as having died of Small Pox at Hightower.Presumably, this was John "Cherokee" Vann.His father, John "Trader" Vann, was also a "linguister" (or interpreter).

To confuse the issue more...In 1770 Alexander Cameron appointed John Vann (apparently a white trader) as official interpreter, replacing another white trader, John Watts (deceased).In 1775 another interpreter, Joseph Vann, was involved with the Henderson land sale at Sychamore Shoals acting contrary to the orders of his employer, Alexander Cameron.In 1779 Robert Due (another white trader) wrote to Cameron that a number of white men, including John Vann and Joseph Vann, had joined war parties.

Therefore; there are probably two seperate Vann mixed-blood families descending from their white projenitors, John and Joseph Vann, and their Cherokee wives.

More About JOHN CHEROKEE VANN III: Clan: Ani'-Ga'tâge'wi = Kituah or Wild Potato (Wa-Wli Vann)

More About AGNES WEATHERFORD: Blood: Non-Cherokee

More About POLLY TERRAPIN: Cause of Death: Drowning

     

Child of JOHN VANN and AGNES WEATHERFORD is:

13. i. KEZIAH4 VANN, b. 1763; d. December 20, 1849, Yancy Co, NC.

     

Child of JOHN VANN and CHEROKEE WOMAN is:

14. ii. JOHN U-WA-NI4 VANN IV, b. Abt. 1766.

     

Children of JOHN VANN and POLLY TERRAPIN are:


iii. GEORGE4 VANN (Source: C002, SPMS.), b. 1793; d. Aft. 1851.


More About GEORGE VANN:

  • 1851 Drennan roll: Saline, 522
  • Education: August 09, 1804, Spring Place Mission School
  • Moravian Journals 1: July 09, 1806, George is cousin to Chief James Vann
  • Moravian Journals 2: December 31, 1809, George was called a "Slanderer" and a "Tempter"
iv.	 	BOY VANN, b. Abt. 1800


Said to be part Cherokee through his father. Unfortunately, all claims to membership through this line have been denied, so there is not much proof this can ever be proved. In the 1800 Census, Martin was listed as a head of household in Buncombe Co, NC. In the 1810 Census, Martin was listed as a head of household in Buncombe Co, NC. It is said that Nehemiah Blackstock jestingly suggested to Martin that he should make a claim to an allotment under the Cherokee Treaty of 1819. Martin and his family made an effort to secure the allotment, and it appears that he occupied the land, although there was controversy as to his right to do so. He was not included on the entitlement list reported by the Secretary of War to Congress 23 Jan 1823.

view all 14

John "Cherokee" Vann, Translator / Interpreter's Timeline

1744
1744
Tennessee
1763
1763
Age 19
Cherokee Nation, probably on the Long Island of the Holston in what is now Sullivan Co, TN
1766
1766
Age 22
1776
1776
Age 32
1777
1777
Age 33
1780
1780
Age 36
1780
Age 36
1793
1793
Age 49
1800
1800
Age 56
1806
December 20, 1806
Age 62
Murray, Georgia, United States