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About Col John Hinton
Generation No. 4
4. COLONEL JOHN4 HINTON (JAMES3, JOHN CHAPMAN2, THOMAS1) was born 1673 in ,England, and died June 06, 1731 in Precinct, Chowan, North Carolina, USA. He married MARY HARDY Abt. 1690 in of Precinct, Chowan, North Carolina, USA. She was born Abt. 1675 in Precinct, Chowan, North Carolina, USA, and died Aft. 1732.
Notes for COLONEL JOHN HINTON:
!A man of prominence, wealth, and had widely-spread connections, therefore, he
was traditionally called Colonel. Source for ordinances: IGI B C073321
- **No proof of descent from Sir John Hinton, royal physician, or his son Sir James Hinton. No proof of connection between the Virginia Hintons and the North Carolina Hintons.***
John Hinton is traditionally called “Colonel”, but just how he acquired this military title is not known.
The following are excerpts from a talk given by genealogist Forrest King to a group in Warren County, NC in 1998, explaining why our Hintons are unlikely to be closely connected to nobility: "Hinton Family: The Hintons are another family where a genealogist has connected our ancestor to one of the noble class in England. This published genealogy has John Hinton as a grandson of Sir John Hinton of Wiltshire County, England, one of the owners of the Virginia Company. The theory states that three of Sir John’s grandchildren (supposedly including our John) migrated to Virginia before 1700 and bought land. Eventually, all three grandchildren moved to North Carolina.
By 1715, the name John Hinton is showing up on both sides of the Virginia-North Carolina border at the same time. The Virginia John Hinton (even if he were a grandson of Sir John Hinton) can be differentiated easily from the North Carolina John Hinton. The Virginia John was a good-sized landowner who owned land in Nansemond County up into the 1720s. The North Carolina John (our ancestor) had his transportation expenses to the colonies paid for by another individual, indicating that he probably did not have much wealth. John of North Carolina has a brother William whose passage was also paid for by the same individual previously mentioned.
John Hinton was born about 1673 probably in England and married Mary Hardy after his immigration to North Carolina. He showed up first as a juror in 1715. He was able to accumulate a little land during his brief lifetime (Map B Number 5). He attained the rank of colonel in the local militia. He was also a justice of the peace in Chowan County in 1725. He was primarily a farmer, but he also had carpentry and cooper skills. He died about 1732. His wife Mary married Thomas Holiday and had children by that marriage who relocated to Connecticut. His daughter Ann Nancy married Solomon Alston.
Sir James Hinton...was very, very wealthy and a financier of the Virginia Company in the 1620s. [However,] when John Hinton came to North Carolina, someone else paid his way here and he was illiterate, behaviors more typical of the servant or lower class than the upper class. One would expect Sir James’ children and grandchildren to be well educated and to have positions of prominence in the English society, so our John Hinton as a grandchild of Sir James does not make sense. "
"John [son of Sir John Hinton and Elizabeth Dilke],...did not come to America, but was Prebendary of Salisbury Co. Wilts from 1693 until his death in 1720.......According to Dickinson, Dr. Hinton's son, John, remained in Salisbury from 1693 until his death in 1720, with a documentable position as Prebendary there.
Notes from http://genforum.genealogy.com/cgi-bin/pageload.cgi?elizabeth,blanchard::hinton::965.html According to Dickinson, John, son of Dr. Hinton, married Anne Martin, daughter of Edward Martin and Anne Brice, in 1670.
However: Notes from http://genforum.genealogy.com/hinton/messages/799.html Re: John Hinton of Nansemond Posted by: Darlene Hood Hinton Date: June 17, 2000 at 13:16:14 In Reply to: John Hinton of Nansemond by Frances Cullom Harper 799 of 2502 According to information in HINTON and RELATED FAMILY HISTORY, Third edition, Volume Two (published by George W Hinton, 5116 Dogwood Place Everett, Washington, 98203-3157 ((no date, no copyright notice)) ) the JOHN HINTON of the 1665 Land Grant was a son of SIR DOCTOR JOHN HINTON, born in London in 1643, married JOAN MASLIN.
He and his wife caimed one thousand acres in NANCEMOND COUNTY, VIRGINIA in 1665 (book states 1765 but from his birth date would have to be 1665) for transporting himself and 19 others to Va to the Colony...."
There is no proof, however, that the Hintons of Nansemond VA are connected to the Hintons of Chowan, NC. Having the same surname is not cause to assume that they are connected.
Notes from http://genforum.genealogy.com/hinton/messages/965.html Re: John Hinton of Nansemond Posted by: David Beatty Date: September 04, 2000 at 12:13:13 In Reply to: Re: John Hinton of Nansemond by Roger L. Russell 965 of 2502 I have to agree with Roger. I'm afraid I find Adelle Harper's research unconvincing in bearing out the argument that James was Col. Hinton's brother, rather than his father. I have taken the liberty of copying Harper's text, interspersing my arguments (noted "DWB") based on Philip Dickinson's research (see my website: http://www.geocities.com/Athens/3250/gen_lhlinp.html) as follows. Please forgive the lengthiness. Harper: SIR JOHN HINTON, M.D., born at Chilton Foiliot July 10, 1603, baptized at St. Martin's July 17, 1603, ?. for his services during the Great Plague. DWB: Harper agrees with Dickinson (even with at least one error) in the above points. Harper: Dr. Hinton married while a student at Leyden a lady whose name was Elizabeth; it is believed that her surname was Dilke. From 1645 to his wife's death in 1656, he resided in a house in what was known as Fullwood Rents, after 1656, he resided in a house in St. Bride's Parish, here his only daughter, Sarah kept house for him until her death, Nov. 1679; then he removed to a humble dwelling in Parish of St. Martin's-in-the-Field, where he died in extreme pverty. (Oct. 10, 1682) (See Administrative Act Book, P. 1682, Folio 154). As far as is known, Dr. Hinton had five sons and one daughter. DWB: Dickinson (see my website for his documentations, which are cited throughout the genealogy. I don't know what Harper's documentation is.) has convincing documentation of Dr. Hinton's children. They are: i. Thomas b. 1639 (who came to Maryland in 1667 with Dr. Hinton's youngest son, Clement), ii. James b. 1642 (who, as far as can be ascertained, did not come to America), iii. Edward b. 1643 (who is last known in Ireland), iv. John, b. 1644 (who did not come to America, but was Prebendary of Salisbury Co. Wilts from 1693 until his death in 1720), v. Clement (the youngest son, who came to Maryland in 1667 with Thomas, his eldest brother), and vi. Sarah (who remained unmarried and, after her mother's death, kept house for her father until her own death). Harper: Three of Dr. Hinton's sons came to American and finally settled in North Carolina. DWB: According to Dickinson, only 2 of Dr. Hinton's sons are documented as coming to America - Thomas, the eldest, and Clement, the youngest. Harper: James, born 1642, seems to have been the eldest and was in Perina, in 1701 and 1710, then apparently South until we finally find himin Chowan County, N.C. DWB: James, based on Dickinson's documentation, was, in fact, the 2nd eldest son of Dr. Hinton, so documented by his admittance to Lincoln's Inn, 1659. However, the James referred to by Harper is actually the son of James, son of Dr. Hinton, according to Dickinson. If Harper's James were this man, he would be 59 at the time of arriving in America, which would be an impractical or unrealistic undertaking for a man of that age in those times. Harper: His brothers, John and William, had preceded him there, where he purchased land from William Hinton, who was evidently his brother, as there is no record of any other William Hinton. DWB: According to Dickinson, Dr. Hinton's son, John, remained in Salisbury from 1693 until his death in 1720, with a documentable position as Prebendary there. Also, Dickinson does not have evidence of a son of Dr. Hinton named William. So, this becomes an extreme leap of faith for Harper, with no documentation for a son named William, and docomuntable evidence that John stayed in England until his death. Harper: JOHN HINTON, the youngest son came to the Colony of North Carolina, about 1720. DWB: Dr. Hinton's son John was not his youngest son, but 2nd youngest, nor did he come to America ever come to America - see above. If he had come to America, according to Harper, he would have been 76 at the time. Dickinson states that his John came to America "before 1710", which would still make him at close to 66 in Harper's genealogy, another unrealistic expectation for a man of that age at that time. Harper: He was younger son of Sir John Hinton, M.D., and his wife, Elizabeth Dilke, member of the notable Berkshire and Wiltonshire family which had intermarried with the Baronial house of Palmer of Sussex. This John Hinton, the elder, of Chowan precinct, was a 'man of prominence, wealth and widely spread connections', and traditionally called 'Colonel'. Just how he acquired this military title is not known. On April 4, 1722, he was granted 350 acres of land on Bennet's Creek in Chowan and later acquired a large landed estate. DWB: He would have acquired this land at age 78, according to Harper's genealogy. Harper: He married Mary Hardy, daughter of John and Rebecca Hardy, and grand-daughter of Captain John Hardy, born in England, and his wife, AliceBennett, daughter of Thomas Bennett, born in England. DWB: According to Dickinson, John, son of Dr. Hinton, married Anne Martin, daughter of Edward Martin and Anne Brice, in 1670. Harper: In Colonel John Hinton's Will, probated the 25th April, 1732, he mentioned his wife, Mary, his well beloved son, Hardy, and well beloved brother, William Hinton, who was the overseer and trustee for his four sons. Their children: i. Colonel John DWB: This son was a minor child at the time of his father's death - neither was he a Colonel at the time of the will, nor was he the eldest - see Dickinson's list of children on my website. Harper: ii. Hardy iii. William iv. Malachi, served in the Revolution with the rank of Lieutenant; married name of wife unknown, numerous descendants in Johnston County, N.C. v. Rachel vi. Mary, married Wiley Jones vii. Sarah, married Benjamin Blanchard viii. Nancy (Ann), married Solomon Alston, ancestor of Honorable James Alston Cabell, of Richmond, Va., a member of the N.C. Society of Cincinnati. ix. Charity x. Rose xi. Judith DWB: William and Col. John, the elder, both died with multiple minor children - a most questionable aspect for men who would, under Harper's genealogy, have been in their late 80's or early 90's at their death. Harper does not address when Dr. Hinton's son "William" was born, but in her genealogy he would have to be older than her Col. John, "the younger son of Sir John Hinton, M.D." It is my understanding that Harper considered but rejected James as the father of Col. John. I do not see that argument addressed in the pages of her genealogy deal with Dr. John. Since there are no references or sources given for Harper's information, I have to say that Dickinson's sources - which include the Administrative Act Book of P.C.C.; Sir Henry Ellis' "Original Letters", Vol. IV, p. 196; the Maryland Archives and other official Maryland records; the North Carolina Hist. and Genealogical Register (especially regarding Col. John Hinton); and "Alstons and Allstons of North and South Carolina" - are reputable and can be scrutinized if there is some doubt to Dickinson's work. It appears to me that both Harper and Dickinson may have some unanswered questions, but it is my belief that Harper chose to compress two generations into one to answer her questions.
Will: Hinton, John. Chowan Precinct.
Will dated June 21, 1730. Probate: October Court, 1732. Sons.- Hardy, John, William, Mallacie [Malachai]. Executors: Mary Hinton (wife), Hardie Hinton (son), William Hinton (brother). Witnesses: James Hinton, Joseph Ashley, Thos. Rountree. Clerk of the Court: Rt. Forster. [Robert Forster]
See full will under the Sources tab.
Full list of children mentioned in will:
Daughters: Mary, Judith, Racheall, Rose, Sarah, Charrity.
Sons: Hardy, John, William and Mallacie.
Another daughter, Ann, is mentioned separately from this list of children.
The will was witnessed by James Hinton (brother?), Joseph Ashley, Jr., and Thomas Rountree.
Excerpt: "I give and bequeath unto my well beloved sons Hardey, John, William, and Mallacie Hinton all my tools belonging to the carpenters, coopers, and shoemakers trades." Please note: not the typical belongings of a gentleman, but those of a working man.
Notes from http://genforum.genealogy.com/hinton/messages/1545.html [see problems below] Re: Need help! John Hinton, 1763, Chowan NC Posted by: Lorene Date: June 13, 2001 at 08:25:04 In Reply to: Re: Need help! John Hinton, 1763, Chowan NC by Jeri Beitel 1545 of 2494 James Hinton, b. 1642, d. circa 1700 Escott, Wiltshire, England was a son of Sir JOHN HINTON (medical doctor) & Elizabeth DILKE, a daughter of Dr. JOHN DILKE. James Hinton (1642) md ELIZABETH DILKE, a daughter of Sir JAMES DILKE. This James Hinton (1642) and wife Elizabeth Dilke had three sone to come to America: (1) John Hinton, b. 29 March 1673 England, immigrated to the Colony of NC circa 1720 and settled in Chowan, NC, md MARY HARDY; (2) Wm Hinton, b. 1675 England immigrated to NC prior to Oct 1710 and settled in Chowan, NC, md in England to ELIZABETH BLANCHARD; (3) James Hinton, b. 1677 England, d. 1761 Gates Court, NC. The source for some of this is from research of Miss Mary Hilliard Hinton in 1944 (DAR Lib), of Raleigh, NC with additional data supplied by Helen M. Prescott of Atlanta. Both were registered genealogists in 1937. Chowan County, NC records show that in 1703 HENRY HILL proved his rights for importation of JOHN, WILLIAM and ELIZABETH HINTON (NC Hist. & Gen. Reg. 2-305). Another record says John Hinton was said to be from Prince George Co., Virginia.
- **********The primary problem with the above information is that the John Hinton chr 29 Mar 1673/1674 is the son of Benjamin Hinton md Elizabeth and NOT the son of James. Several IGI listings show this family using the date 29 Mar 1673 and below is a copy from the actual extracted record:
IGI Individual Record FamilySearch? International Genealogical Index v5.0 British Isles JOHN HINTON Male Christening: 29 MAR 1674 Saint Edmund The King And Martyr Lombard Street, London, London, England Parents: Father: BENJAMIN HINTON Mother: ELIZABETH
Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date. Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:
Col John Hinton's Timeline
March 29, 1673
Province of North Carolina
Chowan County, North Carolina, USA
Suffolk, Virginia, United States
Chowan, NC, USA
June 6, 1731
Chowan, NC, USA