John James Long

JOHN LONG

Portrait of John Long contributed by: CAROLYN LONG

(Written in lower margin): John Long (b. 1778 in Ireland - died in 1861 West Gwillimbury, Simcoe, Ontario, Canada)

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John Long is my great-great grandfather. My father was told by his uncle, Chris Long, one of John's grandsons, that the Long family had spend some time in the Netherlands before coming to Ireland. So, Anne Piper's speculation below is likely correct: "The Long connection to the Palatines may be tenuous - their origin may be different but they may have teamed up with the Palatines at Rotterdam." ___________________________________________________________________________________________

I have been able to access the archived pages for Wayne Cook's site via The Wayback Machine, and it gives the following details re. land ownership in West Gwillimbury: Long, James: 8th Concession, Lot 1; Long, John: 8th Concession, Lot 4; Long, Richard: 8th Concession Lot 5, Long, Samuel, 9th Concession, Lot 2. Robert Atkins, another Palatine, who emigrated around the same time as John, settled on the 8th Concession. Lot 5, and the 9th concession, Lot 1.

William Long settled in Tecumseth on the 14th Concession, N 1/2 of Lot 23. I am unsure of his connection to John Jame's family.

https://web.archive.org/web/20040411030000/http://waynecook.com:80/...

The article I posted from the Long family reunion states that John arrived in Ontario in 1824, and settled in West Gwillimbury. I have now been able to access the land grant archives, and have discovered that John arrived in 1823, with his wife and 6 children. It was previously assumed, as stated in the newspaper article about the Long family reunion, that his wife had died in Ireland, and he remarried after coming to Ontario. This causes a problem with previous assumptions about the parentage of his children.

I have uploaded JPG's of the land petition to 'Sources'. The files are located here: https://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/microform-digitization/006003-1...

The 1861 Census must have been done very early in the year, as John died on February 8, 1861. The enumerator gives his age as 84, but his gravestone says he was 82, therefore born in 1779. __________________________________________________________________________

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Source Details - Title: TORONTO CITY and HOME DISTRICT DIRECTORY, 1837 (West Gwillimbury)

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Toronto City and Home District Directory, 1837, Part II Townships of the Home District, pages 87-92, West Gwillimbury pg 89 -

Listed: Long family members: Jno Long, Jas Long, Samuel Long, Richard Long

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• From: "Annette Piper" <annette.piper@bigpond.com>
• Subject: Re: [IP] Long Family
• Date: Mon, 26 May 2003 06:29:39 +1000
• References: <20030525194933.38086.qmail@web10903.mail.yahoo.com>

Hi Berta

I only know a little but can put you in touch with LONG researchers who are not IP listers if you would like.

The following is information from two Long researchers, one in Ireland, one in Canada (except PIPER connection):

The Long connection to the Palatines may be tenuous - their origin may be different but they may have teamed up with the Palatines at Rotterdam.

John Long (with wife and 4 or 5 children) settled in Co. Cork by Palatine Commissioners and family was still there in 1723. First trace of Longs in Co. Limerick is at Ballingrane in 1747 with John's son Philip, who later moved to Ballycahane.

• 1. Philip Long (b.c. 1703 d.c. 1788) m. ?
• a. David Long b. 1741 d. 1823 m. Mary Switzer
• i. Martin Long b. 1776 d. 1851 m. Margaret Atkins
• a) Joseph I Long b. 1819 d. 1882
• b) Adam Long b. 1820 d. 1896
• c) James Long b. 1822 d. 1904
• d) Maria Long b. 1824
• e) Harriot Long b. 1826
• f) Catherine Jane Long b. 1832 d. 1896
• g) John Long b. 1835 d. 1857
• ii. JOHN LONG b. 1779 m. ELLEN REIDY & ELIZA HEIFEL
• a) Sam Long b. 1820
• b) David Long
• c) John Long b. 1814 m. Dolly Lartley
• d) Millie Long b. 1816 d. 1907
• e) Ellen Long b. 1820 d. 1904
• f) Mary Ann Long b. 1826 d. 1886
• g) Selena Long b. 1827 d. 1911
• h) Eliza Long b. 1829
• i) Benjamin Long b. 1830
• j)Joseph Long b. 1835
• k) Richard Long b. 1837
• iii. Frances Long b. 1780 m. John Piper
• a) Catherine Piper b. 1 Nov 1799 d. 2 March 1887 m. John Shier b.25 May 1792 d. 17 Aug 1874
• b) Mary Piper b. 11 Dec 1803 d. 1892 m. Henry Ball b.c. 1803
• c) Philip Piper b. 12 Feb 1806
• d) James Piper b. 1 Jan 1809 d. 28 Dec 1865 m. Margaret Drew b.. 1812 d. 18 Aug 1866
• e) Jane Piper b. 6 July 1811 m. Henry Miller chr. 9 Oct 1814 d. 1845
• f) Ann Piper b. 28 April 1814 m. Richard Walsh
• g) John Piper b. 9 May 1816 m. Dora Supple b. 11 May 1817
• h) Frances Piper b. 22 Oct 1820 d. 6 Jan 1888 m. Thomas Sparling d. 29 Nov 1888
• i) William Piper b. 4 Feb 1823 d. 15 Dec 1876 m. 1) Ann Drew b. c. 1822 d. 23 Dec 1862 2) Dorothea Helen Scott b. 1829 d.1893
• j) Samuel Piper b. 1 Feb 1829 d. June 1914 (possibly two other children of Frances Long & John Piper - 'child' Piper b. 1808 & William Piper b. 1818)
• iv. CATHERINE LONG b. 1768 d. 1849 m. JAMES ATKINS
• a) ROBERT ATKINS b. 1798 d. 1877
• b) JOSEPH ATKINS b. 1814 d. 1900
• b. Amelia Long m. BARTHOLOMEW ATKINS
• i. MARGARET ATKINS b. 1793 d. 1859 m. Martin Long
• c. James Long m. ?
• i. Peter Long b. 1783 d. 1879 m. Anne ?
• a) John Long b. 1823
• b) Amelia Long
• c) Eliza Long b. 1825
• ii. Philip Long
• iii. James Long b. 1799
• iv. Mary Long b. 1800
• v. William Long
• vi. Richard Long b. 1804 d. 1862
• d. John Long m. Barbara Switzer
• e. Eliza Long

Cheers

Annette Piper

Coolah NSW Australia

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FAMILYSEARCH Member Family Tree Profile for: JOHN LONG

JOHN LONG in FAMILYSEARCH FAMILY TREE JOHN LONG LZNW-4BG

Toronto City and Home District Directory, 1837 (West Gwillimbury)

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Ancestry.com. Canada, City and Area Directories, 1819-1906 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2013.

Notes

Toronto City and Home District Directory, 1837, Part II Townships of the Home District, pages 87-92, West Gwillimbury pg 89

Listed Long Family members:

• Jno Long
• Jas Long
• Samuel Long
• Richard Long

Attached 20 hours ago by Carolyn Long

Reason This Source Is Attached | Establishes names, year, land owned in 1837.

PROFILE MANAGER NOTE Regarding: A Link Path Titled:

"The Toronto Branch of ONTARIO GENEALOGICAL SOCIETY" was created and saved to SOURCES. It provides access the same document elsewhere referenced. And should replace the poor quality pdf version I transferred previously.

Jlphawn 12/12/16

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JOHN LONG

SOURCE: LIBRARY and ARCHIVES CANADA: CENSUSES COLLECTION:http://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/census/1861/Pages/item.aspx?itemid=114...

Digitized page of Census of 1861 (Canada East, Canada West, Prince Edward Island, New Brunswick and Nova Scotia), Page number 19 for John Long

View digitized page of Census of 1861 (Canada East, Canada West, Prince Edward Island, New Brunswick and Nova Scotia) for Image No: 4108338_00473 JPG (Image No: 4108338_00473) PDF (Image No: 4108338_00473)

• Surname: Long
• Given Name: John
• Gender: Male
• Age: 84
• Marital Status: Married
• Place of Birth: Ireland
• Religion: W Methodist
• Province: Canada West (Ontario)
• District Name: Simcoe
• Sub-District Name: West Gwillimbury
• Page Number: 19
• Line Number: 15
• Microfilm: C-1072
• Item Number: 1145148

HOUSEHOLD MEMBERS NOT SHOWN:

Jane Fuller adds a correction: John Long's children had grown up and moved away by the time of this census. He was living with his son, Joseph Switzer Long, who had recently married Letticia Switzer, and as yet had no children. The 12 year old boy living with them has been identified as the child of John's oldest son, Richard, who had passed away. The census says two families were living in the house: that would have been John and his wife and Joe and his wife.

The 1861 Census must have been done very early in the year, as John died on February 8, 1861. The enumerator gives his age as 84, but his gravestone says he was 82, therefore born in 1779.

• ELIZ LONG 65 yrs old
• JOSEPH LONG 27 yrs old
• LETTICIA LONG 24 yrs old
• JOHN LONG 12 yrs old

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1861 John Long Gravestone Newton Robinson Cemetery, Simcoe Co., Ontario (See Sources)

url http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&amp;GRid=67647057&...

Notes

See attached picture of gravestone in Sources.

• Attached A day ago by Carolyn Long

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John Long in entry for Joseph Switzer Long and Rhoda Shearson, "Ontario Marriages, 1869-1927"

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Indexed Information

• Name: John Long
• Gender: Male
• Wife: Eliza Long
• Son: Joseph Switzer Long
• Name: Joseph Switzer Long
• Event Type: Marriage
• Event Date: 20 Feb 1883
• Event Place: Tosorontio, Simcoe, Ontario, Canada
• Gender: Male
• Age: 49
• Birth Year (Estimated): 1834
• Father's Name: John Long
• Mother's Name: Eliza Long
• Spouse's Name: Rhoda Shearson
• Spouse's Gender: Female
• Spouse's Age: 38
• Spouse's Birth Year (Estimated): 1845
• Spouse's Father's Name: Abraham Shearson
• Spouse's Mother's Name: Rhoda Elliott

Citation

"Ontario Marriages, 1869-1927," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FMJ8-TVG :10 April 2015), John Long in entry for Joseph Switzer Long and Rhoda Shearson, 20 Feb 1883; citing registration , Tosorontio, Simcoe, Ontario, Canada, Archives of Ontario, Toronto; FHL microfilm 1,869,763.

• Attached 21 hours ago by Carolyn Long
• Reason This Source Is Attached | Matches

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FAMILYSEARCH Member Family Tree Profile Source Documents for: JOHN LONG

John LONG mentioned in an entry for the record of: JOSEPH SWITZER LONG

John Long in entry for Joseph S. Long, "Ontario Deaths, 1869-1937 and Overseas Deaths, 1939-1947" View | Edit | Review Attachments | Detach | Report Abuse | Tag 3 | url https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JXF6-4J9

Indexed Information

• Name: John Long
• Birthplace: Ireland
• Gender: Male
• Wife: Eliza Long
• Son: Joseph S. Long
• Name-Record: Joseph S. Long
• Event Type: Death
• Event Date: 27 Oct 1909
• Event Place: Bradford, Simcoe, Ontario
• Gender: Male
• Age: 76
• Birth Date: 18 Sep 1832
• Birthplace: Ontario
• Father's Name: John Long
• Mother's Name: Eliza Long

Citation Source

"Ontario Deaths, 1869-1937 and Overseas Deaths 1939-1947" database with images FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/JXF6-4J9 : 24 June 2015) John Long in entry for Joseph S. Long, 27 Oct 1909; citing Bradford, Simcoe, Ontario, yr 1909 cn 26314, Archives of Ontario, Toronto; FHL microfilm 1,854,620.

Source Attached 23 November 2016 by Joachim Hawn Reason This Source Is Attached |

1909 Death Record of JOSEPH SWITZER LONG mentioning parents names

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John Long in Ontario Provincial Census, 1861

• Name: John Long
• Event Type: Census
• Event Date: 1861
• Event Place: West Gwillimbury, Simcoe County, Ontario, Canada
• Enumeration District: 02
• Gender Male
• Age: 84
• Marital Status: Married
• Religion: W Methodist
• Birthplace: Ireland
• Birth Year (Estimated): 1777
• Sheet Number: 19
• Affiliate Film Number: C-1072

Citing this Record

"Ontario Census, 1861," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MQQ5-V2D : 8 November 2014), John Long, West Gwillimbury, Simcoe, Ontario, Canada; citing p. 19, line 15; Library and Archives Canada film number C-1072, Public Archives, Toronto; FHL microfilm 349,320.

No image available for Ontario Census 1861

• Line Number 15
• GS Film Number 349320
• Digital Folder Number 4108338

PLEASE NOTE: (See Sources for Link to LIBRARY and ARCHIVES CANADA Original Document Image) Jlphawn

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John Long in FIND A GRAVE CANADA (See Sources)

• Name: John Long
• Birth Date: 1779
• Birth Place: Raheenagh, County Limerick, Ireland
• Death Date: 8 Feb 1861
• Death Place: Newton Robinson, Simcoe County, Ontario, Canada
• Cemetery: Newton Robinson United Church Cemetery
• Burial or Cremation Place: Newton Robinson, Simcoe County, Ontario, Canada *Has Bio?: N

Children:

• James Long
• Joseph Switzer Long
• Samuel Long
• Eliza Newburn

URL: http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-...

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• Record added: Mar 29, 2011
• Find A Grave Memorial# 67647057

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John Long mentioned in the Death Record of daughter: Silvia Orchard

• Name: John Long
• Birthplace: Ireland
• Gender: Male
• Wife: Liza Long
• Daughter: Silvia Orchard
• Other information in the record of Silvia Orchard from Ontario Deaths and Overseas Deaths, 1939-1947
• Name: Silvia Orchard
• Event Type: Death
• Event Date: 15 Jan 1909
• Event Place: York, Ontario
• Gender: Female
• Age: 72
• Birth Date: 12 Jun 1836
• Birthplace: Si... Co.
• Father's Name: John Long
• Mother's Name: Liza Long

Citing this Record

"Ontario Deaths, 1869-1937 and Overseas Deaths, 1939-1947," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JKWZ-8DZ : 24 June 2015), John Long in entry for Silvia Orchard, 15 Jan 1909; citing York, Ontario, yr 1909 cn 32871, Archives of Ontario, Toronto; FHL microfilm 1,854,622.

View the original document. The original may contain more information than was indexed.

Ontario Deaths 1869-1937 and Overseas Deaths, 1939-1947

• Reference ID: yr 1909 cn 32871
• GS Film number: 1854622
• Digital Folder Number: 4175812
• Image Number: 754

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Smart Matches™ (3) John Long in MyHeritage Family Trees : McIntosh Web Site, managed by James McIntosh (Contact)

• Birth: Circa 1779 - Ballycahan, Kilcornan Parish, Co. Limerick, Ireland
• Death: Feb 8 1861 West Gwillimbury, Simcoe County, Ontario, Canada
• Parents: David Long and Mary Long (born Switzer) Siblings:
• Catherine Atkins (born Long)
• Martin Long
• Frances Piper (born Long)
• Mary Long
• Peter Long

Wife: Eliza Long (born Heifel)

Wife: Ellen Long (born Reidy)

Children:

• Samuel Long
• John Long II
• Emelia Long
• Ellen Atkins (born Long)
• Mary Ann Long
• Richard Long
• Eliza Newburn (born Long)
• Joseph Switzer Long
• Benjamin Long
• Selma Long

Adds: more complete burial place, sibling(s), spouse(s) and child(ren)

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John Long in MyHeritage Family Trees : Markey Family Site (23andMe), managed by Suzanne Markey (Contact)

• Birth: Circa 1779 Ballycahan, Kilcornan Parish, Co. Limerick, Ireland
• Death: Feb 8 1861 West Gwillimbury, Simcoe County, Ontario, Canada
• Parents: David Long and Mary Long (born Switzer)

Siblings:

• Catherine Long
• Martin Long
• Frances Piper (born Long)
• Mary Long
• Peter Long

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John Long in MyHeritage Family Trees : Rawlinson Web Site, managed by Sharon Rawlinson (Contact)

• Birth: Circa 1779 Ballycahan, Kilcornan Parish, County Limerick, Ireland
• Death: Feb 8 1861 West Gwillimbury, Simcoe County, Ontario, Canada
• Parents: David Long and Mary Long (born Switzer) Siblings:
• Catherine Atkins (born Long)
• Martin Long
• Frances Piper (born Long)
• Mary Long
• Peter Long

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John Long was one of the first settlers in what is now West Gwillibury. He emigrated from Rathkale, Co. Limerick, Ireland. His family were tenant farmers on the Southwell Estate.

He settled on Lot 4, Concession 8 of West Gwillimbury. Another Palatine settler, Robert Atkins, was his neighbour (Lot 5, Concession 8) Robert emigrated in 1825. A newspaper article I have that has been passed down through the family says John emigrated in 1824.

The farm remained in the Long family until my grand-mother, Annie married George Jeffery and moved away from home. John's son, Joe, found it too difficult to manage on his own, so he sold the farm and moved to a house on Holland St. in Bradford.

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