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John Marr 1665 had a first wife who some think was a Catherine Fishback who would have been a sister or relative of his second wife Elizabeth Fishback.
The "Genealogies of Virginia Families" Volume II, Gi-Pe had a lengthy biography of John Marr.John Marr's origin doesn't really seem to be known, but it is believed he was a French Huguenot.The biography states that it is not known if John came directly from France or via England. He is believed to have been here about 1688 and that he was married in Virginia. "By 1695 he was established in Lancaster Co and is among the tithables there. He was also there in 1696. By 1700 he was in Stafford Co. and in the county levy received 600 pounds of tobacco for trapping two wolves. On April 8, 1702, William Allen of Stafford Co., cordwainer, (i.e. shoemaker), for 2500 pounds of tobacco sold to John Hooper of Northumberland Co.,all that tract or messuage of land lying westerly "and adjoining the 100 acres I leased to John Marr a frenchman of this county and northerly on a certain tract sold by my brother John Allen ..............."
Change Date: 17 Jul 2001 at 16:13:32
Marriage 1 Spouse Unknown Married: ABT 1688 in ,,Va.
- Mary MARR b: 1695 in ,Lancaster,Va.
- Daniel MARR b: 1693 in ,,Va.
- Catherine MARR b: ABT 1711 in ,,Va.
- Christopher MARR b: ABT 1690
Marriage 2 Anna Elizabeth FISHBACK b: 15 Apr 1685 in Trupbach, Nassau-Siegen, , Ger. Married: 1729
ID: I1971 View Post-em! Name: John MARR Sr. Surname: Marr Given Name: John Suffix: Sr. Sex: M Birth: 1660 in ,,,France Death: 8 May 1744 in , Prince William, Va. _UID: 445E2F907B41D511BD9EBDC3D79617319312 Note: John Marr 1665 had a first wife who some think was a Catherine Fishback who would have been a sister or relative of his second wife Mary Elizabeth Fishback. Do you have an opinion about this? Thanks, Greg Flynn
had a grandson, Thomas Marr who served in the 3rd Va. Regiment commanded by Col. Thomas Marshall under Captain John Chilton. died on 2-12-1777 in Va. according to Crigler gg aunt's DAR App. 2nd wife was named Ann ?.
The "Genealogies of Virginia Families" Volume II, Gi-Pe had a lengthy biography of John Marr.John Marr's origin doesn't really seem to be known, but it is believed he was a French Huguenot.The biography states that it is not known if John came directly from France or via England. He is believed to have been here about 1688 and that he was married in Virginia. "By 1695 he was established in Lancaster Co and is among the tithables there. He was also there in 1696. By 1700 he was in Stafford Co. and in the county levy received 600 pounds of tobacco for trapping two wolves. On April 8, 1702, William Allen of Stafford Co., cordwainer, (i.e. shoemaker), for 2500 pounds of tobacco sold to John Hooper of Northumberland Co.,all that tract or messuage of land lying westerly "and adjoining the 100 acres I leased to John Marr a frenchman of this county and northerly on a certain tract sold by my brother John Allen ..............."Linda Hi All,I'm back from a long sabbatical creating a new nonprofit agency. I've been going through my backlog of emails and want to contribute some possible answers to previous questions.Last summer inquiries were made about the family of John Marr. I descend from him and have spent 6 years trying to piece together his family. I hesitate to share my speculations about John Marr's descendants with the full list as they are highly speculative and unproven at this point. John Marr's origins are unknown.In 1997 John Gott showed me an unpublished manuscript he had written about the family. He said the Virginia Marr's claimed Scottish origin. Warren Marr, descendant of John Quincey Marr and his mistress Eliza Nickens, wrote an unpublished manuscript in 1967. He too believed that he descended from the House of Mar of Scotland. He wrote:"House of Mar is the title applied to that group of people in Scotland who were subjects of the Earl of Mar. Under the title, there were four primary families, ranked in the following order: Marr, Morren, Strachan and Tough."In the days of the Roman Legions, Gaius Marius conquered the tribes of Germany. As a person he was so respected by the Germans that they took part of his name, 'mar', into the language to mean 'illustrious.'" [He sites no sources]At the end of the 19th C. a group of Marr descendants attemptedunsuccessfully to claim the estate of the late Earl of Mar of Scotland. It was found that they had no connection to the estate as the title had fallen to the House of Erskine (John Erskine, the 11th Earl of Mar born 1675). There are many Marr families who came to America. Some came from Scotland. None of these have been found to be directly connected to John Marr of Stafford Co.Yet another source:From the book, The Bradfords of Va, 1932, by Mrs. Nelle Rhea White, Whittet & Shepperson, Richmond, Va, Chapt. vii"Record of the Marr Family of Virginia"John Marr Sr. was imported from Great Britain and Ireland, 1735. (OrangeCounty Records)" [source not sited]another:from "John Marr of Stafford County" Genealogies of Virginia families; Tyler's Quarterly Historical and Genealogical Magazine"In an effort to get background for John Marr, various books were consulted. Reitsap's 'Planches de l'Armorial General,' vol. 2, suppliment p. 161, describes the coats of arms of several families by the name of Marr, Marre and de la Marre. The Marr family is said to be of Ratisbonne (Regensburg) Bavaria, but since this book deals with French armorial families, the Ratisbonne Marrs must have originated in france. A Marre family is given as of Flanders and de la Marre as of Ile de france, Brittany, Larraine and Champaign. Since the Huguenots were strong in Brittany and Flanders it would seem likely that the Marr's and the de la Marre's found in English Huguenot Church records were from these provinces that lie so near England. Among the settlers of 'Manakin Town' in Virginia was a Nicti Mar with his wife and two children."another:RECORDS RELATING TO THE HUGUENOT EMIGRATION TO VIRGINIA IN 1700.3LIST OF ALL YE PASSINGERS FROM LONDON TO JAMES RIVER, IN VIRGINIA, BEING FFRENCH REFUGEES IMBARQUED IN THE SHIP YE PETER AND ANTHONY, GALLEY OF LONDON, DANIEL PERREAU COMMANDER (VIZ'T):Nicholas Mare, sa femme and 2 enfans - 4LISTE DES PERSONNES DU SECOND CONVOY QUI SERENT TOUTE L'ANNEE A MANICANTON.Nicholas Mare, sa femme et 2 enfans, - 4Noe de la Mare, sa fem me et Un enfant, - 3and the lastfrom "The Twentieth Century Biographical Dictionary of Notable Americans Volume VII"Robert Athelstan Marr, Jr [a descendant of John Marr]; educator, was born at Nashville, Tenn., Sept. 29, 1856; son of William Jackson and Jane (Nelson) Marr and grandson of John and Catherine Inman (Horner) Marr. His ancestry on the Marr side was French, the original name being de la Mar; and on the maternal side was Scotch and English.I'm currently following the French idea because of the following deed"On 8 April 1702, William Allen of Stafford County, cordwainer (i.e., shoemaker), for 2500 pounds of tobacco sold to John Hooper ofNorthumberland County, all that tract or messuage of land lyingwesterly 'and adjoining the 100 acres I leased to John Marr afrenchman of this county and northerly on a certain tract sold by mybrother John Allen to Lewis Renoe, a frenchman of WestmorelandCounty, and part of the land my brother John and I bought ofAugustine Kneaton, Blacksmith.'"Because of the believed family connections between the Marr's and Allen's I think the French connection is the most likely.Cindy Crigler
There is another connection in that it is believed that Henry >Holtzclaw, second son in the family, married Nancy Harden. Now some >members of the Harden family went to southwest Pennsylvania. Were >the Thomases and the Hardens acquainted and did the actions of one >influence the other?>John,I'm a little behind on reading my emails. There are also connections between the Holtzclaw and Hardin families through the Marr family of Fauquier Co.Ann Nancy Hardin Holtzclaw was d/o Mark Hardin and Mary Hogue. Ann's brother Martin "Ruffle Shirt" Hardin d. 1780 Monongahela Co. PA.John Marr, the immigrant, m. 2 Mary Elizabeth Fishback, d/o Philip Fishback and Elizabeth Heimback. Mary Elizabeth gave land to her sons by her first marriage to John Jacob Rector.Deed Abstracts of Prince William County, Virginia 1745-1746/1748-1749Pp. 157-158TO ALL CHRISTIAN PEOPLE to whom these presents shall come I ELIZABETH MARRwidow of the Parish of Hamilton and County of Prince William send Greeting.Know ye that I the said ELIZABETH MARR for the Natural love that I do bearunto my Son HARMON RICTOR Planter I the said ELIZABETH MARR being in perfectmemory have given unto the said HARMON RICTOR his heirs a parcel of landcontaining One hundred acres in the aforesaid County of Prince William and in the GERMAN TOWN it being part of a GRAND PATENT taken up by JOHN FISHBACK, JOHN HUFMAN and JACOB HOLTZCLAW and by them conveyed by a lease for Ninety nine years yet to come to the aforesaid ELIZABETH MARR Widow then ELIZABETH RICTOR the said Lease bearing date the Eleventh day of August in the year 1729 and is recorded in the County Court of STAFFORD and thesaid land bounded beginning at a red Oak corner to PETER HITT and fromthence down to a Hiccory joining to the land of HENRY OTTERBACK and alongthe said OTTERBACKs line crossing LICKING RUN to a white Oak in Colo. CARTERsline thence up CARTERs line to a red Oak corner to PETER HITT thence alongthe said HITTs line to the beginning which said land HARMON RICTOR nowlives on and is in its possession To Have and To Hold the said parcel ofland to him the said HARMON RICTOR and his heirs without any manner ofclaim from me the said ELIZABETH MARR my heirs. In Witness whereof I haveset my hand and affixed my Seale this 28th day of July one thousand sevenhundred and forty six in presence of JAMES GENN.John Marr and his first wife (unknown) had a daughter (note her death place):Catherine Marr, b. c. 1710, d. c. 1770 Fayette Co. PA, m. Maj. John Hardin, c. 1732, Prince William Co. VA. He was b. c. 1710, Northumberland Co. VA and d. 13 Oct 1789, Nelson KY, s/o Mark Hardin and Mary Hogue. (info from descendant Lou Poole)Issue:John Hardin, b. Oct 1733 VA, d. 2 Jun 1804 Fayette Co. PA, m. Isabella Strawbridge or StubrachMary Hardin, b: Abt 1735 VA, m. Gen Owen Thomas, b. Georges Creek, PA s/o Lewis ThomasBenjamin Hardin, b. 1739 VA, d. 1817 KY, m. 1 Sarah Ellen Hardin, m. 2 ?Thomas Hardin, b. 1741 VA, m. Mary ?William "Indian Bill" Hardin, b: Abt 1746 Prince William Co. VA, d: Jul 22, 1821 Hardinsburg Ky, m. Winnifred Holtzclaw, d/o Henry Holtzclaw and Ann HardinMark Hardin, b. 1749 VA, d. 8 May 1792 KY, m. Ann HartleyJessie Hardin [female], b. 1751 VA, m. ? SinnettAbigail Hardin, b. 1752 VA, m. ? LynchCatherine Hardin, b. 1755, VA m. 1 ? Johnson, m. 2 Alexander BarnettElizabeth Hardin, b. 1757 VA, m. ? MartinSusanna Hardin , m. ? WalkerI haven't done much work on the descendants of Catherine Marr since there are so many others working on this family.More riddles and enigmas.Cindy
it can be e.g. Maur ( a welsh name ?)this name may be usually spelled across the soughas Lamar (as in De le Marr)the family is early in Maryland and then bouces toSo Car to Ga etcso that the Va spelling of Marr is a shortening of the longer De Le Marr name that is usually in Marylandspelled as Lamar Change Date: 17 Jul 2001 at 01:00:00
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Marriage 1 Spouse Unknown Married: ABT 1688 in ,,Va. Children Has Children Mary MARR b: 1695 in ,Lancaster,Va. Has Children Daniel MARR b: 1693 in ,,Va. Has Children Catherine MARR b: ABT 1711 in ,,Va. Has No Children Christopher MARR b: ABT 1690
Marriage 2 Anna Elizabeth FISHBACK b: 15 Apr 1685 in Trupbach, Nassau-Siegen, , Ger. Married: 1729 http://worldconnect.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=jbh&id=I1971
John Marr, Sr.'s Timeline
Lesbury, Northumberland , England
Lancaster County, Virginia
May 8, 1744
Prince William, Virginia
May 8, 1744