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John Thomas, of Queen's Creek

Birthdate: (68)
Birthplace: Caramarthenshire, Wales
Death: circa 1653 (59-72)
Queens Creek, York, Virginia
Immediate Family:

Husband of Dorothy Thomas, of Cymru
Father of John Thomas, Jr.; Phillip Thomas, Sr; Richard Thomas; Mark Thomas and William Thomas

Managed by: Richard Arthur Neary
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About John Thomas, of Queen's Creek

JOHN THOMAS, born in Wales 1585-1590, arrived in Jamestown 24 May 1610. He later lived near Williamsbug, Viriginia, on the north side of Queen's Creek in the County of Yorke, raising his sons with his wife DOROTHY. His passage to Jamestown in 1609 had been paid by SERGEANT WILLIAM SHARPE, so no doubt he had to work off this obligation before acquiring land of his own.

This list of sons is from Worth S. Ray. (456)


  1. Mark. No known wife.
  2.  John. Married (probably) Elinor Montague
  3.  William. Married ??
  4.  Phillip. Married Sarah McKinnie
  5.  Richard. Married ??


IN 1609 JOHN THOMAS embarked on the Sea Venture in England, bound for the new colony overseas, with SIR THOMAS GATES. The ship sailed from Plymouth, England, on 2 June that year. It was the flagship of a fleet of seven vessels and two pinnaces, a fleet called the "Third Supply" by the Virginia Company. On 24 July, about eight days from Virginia, the fleet encountered a hurricane. In his book on the family Edison H. Thomas quotes an account of the journey written by WILLIAM STRACHEY, secretary-elect of the new Virginia colony.

"A dreadful storme and hideous began to blow from out of the north-east, which swelling, and roaring as it were by fits, some houres with more violence than others, at length did bete all light from heaven, which like an hell of darkenesse turned blacke upon us, so much the more fuller of horror ... Waters like whole rivers did flood in the ayre..."


STRACHEY sent a copy of his journal back to England to his friend WILLIAM SHAKESPEARE, who wrote a play titled The Tempest, using much of the journal in the play's dialogue.

The Sea Venture floundered off the coast of Isle of Bermuda, washing ashore there three days later. Nothing daunted the victims of this disaster who rallied and built two pinnacles capable of withstanding the rough seas, which they named Deliverance and Patience, and on the 24th of May 1610 they came sailing up the James River to the headquarters of the new colony with all safe on board, save LIEUT. EDWARD WATTERS and one other, who had elected to remain in the Bermudas to which they had taken a fancy. Another member of this fateful journey was JOHN ROLFE who later would marry the Indian princess POCOHONTAS.

Queen's Creek, Virginia


Coordinates: 37°17′44″N 76°40′0.0″W Queen's Creek is located in York County in the Virginia Peninsula area of the Hampton Roads region of southeastern Virginia in the United States. From a point of origin near the Waller Mill Reservoir in western York County it flows northeasterly across the northern half of the Peninsula as a tributary of the York River.

As Jamestown in the Colony of Virginia was first settled by English colonists beginning in 1607 along the James River, the colonists had frequent and violent encounters with the Native Americans who had long lived there, and were increasingly squeezed out by the every-growing number of colonists, exacerbated by their cultivation of land-hungry tobacco as a cash crop to export after 1612.

Queen's Creek first came into a significant role in the colony as an important part of an important fortification in the 1630s. The idea of a palisade or fortification across the peninsula was discussed as early as 1611. But, during the era of the marriage of colonist John Rolfe and Native Princess Pocahontas, who were married in 1614, there was a period of peaceful relations with the Natives, and nothing was immediately done in furtherance of the suggestion.

The idea of building a palisade was renewed around 1623, following the Indian Massacre of 1622. At that time, of the settlers in Martin's Hundred at Wolstenholme Towne, situated on the James about 6 miles (9.7 km) below Jamestown, seventy-three were slain, and the survivors were so alarmed and weakened that the settlement was temporarily abandoned. Governor Francis Wyatt and his Council wrote to the Earl of Southampton that they had under consideration a plan of "winning the forest" by running a pale between the James and York.

Dr. John Potts blazed the way by obtaining on July 12, 1632 a patent for 1,200 acres (4.9 km2) at the head of Archer's Hope Creek (later renamed College Creek), midway between the James River at Archer's Hope and the former Native American village of Chiskiack near the York River. On September 4, 1632, the General Assembly directed that the encouragement of land offered two years before to inhabitants at Chiskiack, should also be granted to all persons settling between Queen's Creek and Archer's Hope Creek.

In February, 1633, it was enacted that a fortieth part of the men in "the compasse of the forest" east of Archer's Hope and Queen's Creek to Chesapeake Bay (essentially all of the lower peninsula) should be present "before the first day of March next" at Dr. John Potts' plantation, "newlie built," to erect houses and secure the land in that quarter. Work on the palisade commenced by March 1, 1633.[1]

From Geni member Daniel Thomas Jan 2016:

"I believe John Thomas Jr's mother was named Dorothy, but he was married to Elinor Montague. Most sources list their marriage as having taken place in 1647. John Jr's son, Richard, was born in 1629 so it is possible John Jr's first wife was Dorothy Jordan, but I think more research is required to determine the birth and death dates for Dorothy Jordan to cast her definitively as either a mother or wife to John Thomas Jr. The problem has more to do with two John Thomas names showing up in most trees without distinctions between John Thomas Sr and John Thomas Jr and Dorothy gets passed back and forth between the two John's. Many trees list John Thomas Sr as John David Thomas Sr which should make his son John David Thomas Jr. In any case, I feel Dorothy of Cymru (no last name in Wales) may have been Dorothy Jordan through a marriage prior to her marriage with John Thomas Sr. As the story goes (as told by Rev William Thomas in "Virginia Gold"), John Thomas Sr may have fathered John Jr before leaving on the ill-fated Sea Venture that floundered onto Bermuda and was feared missing from September 1609 through May 1610. Dorothy married a British sailor who was lost, himself, at sea, leaving Dorothy widowed for a time."


  • 456. Worth S. Ray, “The Lost Tribes of North Carolina, Part IV. Old Albemarle and Its Absentee Landlords,” 1947, Reprinted for the Clearfield Co., Inc., The Genealogical Publishing Company, Baltimore, MD, 1993, pages 623-638.
  • 1225.
  • 1192. The THOMAS and BRIDGES Story 1540 - 1840, by Edison H. Thomas. This book is out of print but much of its content, through numerous family trees, can be found on the website of the Thomas and Bridges Families History site;


  • i. North Carolina Historical and Genealogical Register, by J. R. B. Hathaway, volumes 1, 2 1901, Edenton NC, and 3, 1965, 1970-71, 1879, 1998, 2002, Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., Baltimore MD
  • ii. Lost Tribes of North Carolina, by Worth S. Ray, Part 1, Part 2, Part 3, Part 4 (Old Albemarle and It's Absentee Landlords), 1947, Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., Baltimore MD
  • iii. Ray's Index and Digest to Hathaway's North Carolina Historical and Genealogical Register, by Worth S. Ray, 1956, Southern Book Company, Baltimore MD
  • iv. Cavaliers and Pioneers, by Nugent



John Thomas, born about 1585, Caramarthenshire, Wales, died about 1653, York County, Virginia, married Dorothy Cymru, of Wales, born 1594 in Carmarthenshire, Wales, died in 1660 in Queen's Creek, York County, Virginia. She and John were married in Virginia in 1618. They had four children:

1. John Thomas, Jr. (THE TRIGG COUNTY LINE) 2. Phillip Thomas, married Sarah McKinnie, eight children:

1. Evan Thomas 2. Joseph Thomas 3. Michael Thomas 4. Robert Thomas 5. John Thomas 6. Phillip Thomas, Jr. 7. Mourning Thomas 8. Priscilla Thomas

3. Richard Thomas, married unknown, three children:

1. Richard Thomas, Jr. 2. John Thomas 3. William Thomas

4. William Thomas, married unknown, eight children:

1. William Thomas Jr., married Elizabeth Hill 2. Humphrey Thomas 3. Simon Thomas 4. Gabriel Thomas 5. John Thomas 6. Priscilla Thomas, married Humphrey Marshall 7. Rebecca Thomas, married William Harrison 8. Elizabeth Thomas, married Thomas Hill

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John Thomas, of Queen's Creek's Timeline

Caramarthenshire, Wales
Age 26
Queen's Creek, York, Virginia
Age 27
Queens Creek, York Co. Virginia
Age 29
York, Virginia
Age 32
Queens Creek, York Co. Virginia
Age 40
York County, Virginia
Age 68
Queens Creek, York, Virginia