John "Cherokee" Vann, Translator / Interpreter
|Birthplace:||Running Water, Tennessee|
|Death:||Died in Murray, Georgia, United States|
|Cause of death:||Smallpox|
Son of John "Young Trader" Vann and Elizabeth Raven-Hop Moytoy, Raven's Sister
|Managed by:||C. (Carr) Hulshizer|
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Notes for JOHN CHEROKEE VANN III, son of JOHN TRADER VANN II (JOHN1) Abt. 1715- Aft. 1770 and SISTER OF RAVEN Abt. 1746, daughter of A-NU-WA-GI MOYTOY :
Don Greene, Shawnee Heritage XI #133: In 1770 he was appointed official translater by Alexander Cameron.
Spouse 1: 1762: Agnes Weatherford
- Keziah Vann b 1763 married in 1781 to Martin Maney b 1748
- John Vann b 1765 d after 1817
Spouse 2: 1765, Catherine French
- John Oowayne Vann b. 1766 d. aft. 1814 marr 1787 Mary Hughes b. 1770
- child b 1768
- child b. 1770
- child b. 1772
- Rebcca Vann b. 1774; marr 1788 Unknown; marr 1802 Charles Ulutse Moore (b. 1774)
- Otiyu Vann b 1776 marr 1804 John Bowles "Chief Bowl" (b 1756)
- Lucinda Vann b. 1780 d. 1802 marr. 1799 Charles Uutse Moore (b. 1774 d. aft 1837)
- child b. 1782
- child b 1784
Spouse 3: 1788: Polly Terrapin-Watts
- George Vann b 1790 d. aft. 1851 marr 1810 Elisi Swimmer (b. 1795); marr. 1824 Chioyuka Swimmer (b. 1806)
- John Boy Vann b. 1792 d. aft. 1830. marr 1812 Unknown; marr. 1830 Tiana Fields b. 1800
From the Cherokee genealogical database of James R. Hicks: http://www.genealogy.com/ftm/h/i/c/James-R-Hicks-VA/GENE1-0003.html
JOHN CHEROKEE VANN III (JOHN TRADER2, JOHN1) (Source: C002, SPMS.) was born Abt. 1746 in Eastern Tennessee, and died Abt. 1805.
He married (1) AGNES WEATHERFORD Bef. 1763.She was born Abt. 1746.
He married (2) CHEROKEE WOMAN Abt. 1766.She was born Abt. 1748.
He married (3) POLLY TERRAPIN (Source: C002, SPMS.) Bef. 1793, daughter of THE TERRAPIN and OLD JENNIE.She was born Abt. 1768, and died Abt. 1833.
Notes for JOHN CHEROKEE VANN III:
Moravian Journals, 12/20/1806; refers to Polly Terrapin's husband as having died of Small Pox at Hightower.Presumably, this was John "Cherokee" Vann.His father, John "Trader" Vann, was also a "linguister" (or interpreter).
To confuse the issue more...In 1770 Alexander Cameron appointed John Vann (apparently a white trader) as official interpreter, replacing another white trader, John Watts (deceased).In 1775 another interpreter, Joseph Vann, was involved with the Henderson land sale at Sychamore Shoals acting contrary to the orders of his employer, Alexander Cameron.In 1779 Robert Due (another white trader) wrote to Cameron that a number of white men, including John Vann and Joseph Vann, had joined war parties.
Therefore; there are probably two seperate Vann mixed-blood families descending from their white projenitors, John and Joseph Vann, and their Cherokee wives.
More About JOHN CHEROKEE VANN III: Clan: Ani'-Ga'tâge'wi = Kituah or Wild Potato (Wa-Wli Vann)
More About AGNES WEATHERFORD: Blood: Non-Cherokee
More About POLLY TERRAPIN: Cause of Death: Drowning
Child of JOHN VANN and AGNES WEATHERFORD is:
13. i. KEZIAH4 VANN, b. 1763; d. December 20, 1849, Yancy Co, NC.
Child of JOHN VANN and CHEROKEE WOMAN is:
14. ii. JOHN U-WA-NI4 VANN IV, b. Abt. 1766.
Children of JOHN VANN and POLLY TERRAPIN are:
iii. GEORGE4 VANN (Source: C002, SPMS.), b. 1793; d. Aft. 1851.
More About GEORGE VANN:
- 1851 Drennan roll: Saline, 522
- Education: August 09, 1804, Spring Place Mission School
- Moravian Journals 1: July 09, 1806, George is cousin to Chief James Vann
- Moravian Journals 2: December 31, 1809, George was called a "Slanderer" and a "Tempter"
iv. BOY VANN, b. Abt. 1800
Said to be part Cherokee through his father. Unfortunately, all claims to membership through this line have been denied, so there is not much proof this can ever be proved. In the 1800 Census, Martin was listed as a head of household in Buncombe Co, NC. In the 1810 Census, Martin was listed as a head of household in Buncombe Co, NC. It is said that Nehemiah Blackstock jestingly suggested to Martin that he should make a claim to an allotment under the Cherokee Treaty of 1819. Martin and his family made an effort to secure the allotment, and it appears that he occupied the land, although there was controversy as to his right to do so. He was not included on the entitlement list reported by the Secretary of War to Congress 23 Jan 1823.
John "Cherokee" Vann, Translator / Interpreter's Timeline
Cherokee Nation, probably on the Long Island of the Holston in what is now Sullivan Co, TN
December 20, 1806
Murray, Georgia, United States