Karl Singer

Carl Karl SINGER: b. 8 Oct 1875, Wien - d. after 19 Sept 1942, Treblinka, HOLOCAUST

Basic birth data from IKG-Wien archives courtesy of www.genteam.at

Nr. 154414
Familienname Singer
Vorname Carl
Code 1
Vorname des Vaters Simon
Name der Mutter Grammer
Vorname der Mutter Regina
Ort Fünfhaus
Buch Nr. Fünfhaus1
Band Fh1
Datum 08.10.1875
Zahl 1075

Details from actual IKG-Wien birth registration, viewable courtesy of:

1875.10.08 - Karl SINGER - IKG-Wien BR:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33SQ-GBKY-Q2D?i=144&cc=...

Father: Simon SINGER, "Wäschefabrikant?" of Szenitz, Ungarn

Mother: Regina née GRAMER (KRAMER crossed out)

Witness: Dr. Leopold SPITZ

cf. death notices of mother Regine SINGER and father Simon SINGER ...

Details of deportation and subsequent death courtesy of:

www.doew.at

Vorname: Karl
Nachname: Singer
Geburtstag: 08.10.1875
Geburtsort: Wien
Wohnort: Wien 2, Große Stadtgutgasse 14/8

Sterbeort: Treblinka
Deportation: Wien/Theresienstadt
Deportationsdatum: 20.06.1942
Überstellung: Theresienstadt/Treblinka
Datum der Überstellung: 19.09.1942

Nicht überlebt

Quelle: Shoah-Opfer

Plus -

https://www.holocaust.cz/en/database-of-victims/victim/58513-karl-s...

Born 08. 10. 1875
Transport IV/1, no. 139 ( -> )
Transport Bo, no. 1992 (19. 09. 1942, -> Treblinka)
Murdered

And also, importantly, cf. information on wife Rosa "VALETTI".

N.B. Most sources state that Rosa was married three times and that her daughter Lisl was fathered by Ludwig ROTH.

In fact, though there is clear evidence that Rosa was first married to the pianist Edmund HERTZ and then later to the journalist Karl SINGER, there is no indication that she was ever married to her acting colleague Ludwig ROTH.

Indeed, at the time of Elisabeth "Lisl" VALETTI's birth on 14 Nov 1914, Berlin, Rosa was clearly married to Karl SINGER. As far as can be ascertained, this couple remained together until Rosa's death in December 1937.

Not only are there numerous mentions of them e.g. holidaying together as husband & wife - with "daughter" on sevral occasions but in the few obituaries dedicated to Rosa VALETTI, it is said that she was married to Karl SINGER.

In Adolph LEHMANN's Wien address book for 1937, Rosa & Karl are listed at the same address. (Lisl isn't listed - presumably living with them in same home?):

Elisabeth "Lisl" stage-surname VALETTI like her mother is to be found in various mentions under the surname of SINGER or SINGER-VALETTI. On her emigration records to the USA she is named SINGER/VALETTI - never ROTH.

SO one wonders where this came about that Ludwig ROTH was attributed fatherhood for Lisl VALETTI ... various possibillities include:

- a misunderstanding on the part of biographers.

- a claim made by Lisl at a later date - for some reason ...

- Lisl could well have been the product of an extra-marital affair between Rosa VALETTI-SINGER & Ludwig ROTH

- is it conceivable that Karl SINGER, desiring to have a child but unable to father one himself, even encouraged this ...?

Until further facts may be found this remains a mystery ...

Numerous mentions of couple - sometimes with "daughter" holidaying together include:

ANNO, Ischler Bade-Liste, 1909-07-23, Seite 2

https://anno.onb.ac.at/cgi-content/anno?aid=cur&datum=19090723&seit...

&

ANNO, Ischler Bade-Liste, 1933-07-07, Seite 3

https://anno.onb.ac.at/cgi-content/anno?aid=cur&datum=19330707&seit...

cf. 1937 listings in Adolph LEHMANN's Wien address book:

Wienbibliothek / Retrodigitalisierung / 1937 [1252]

https://www.digital.wienbibliothek.at/wbrobv/periodical/pageview/6595

SINGER Karl, Vertr.(Vertreter), VII, Döblergasse 4

&

Wienbibliothek / Retrodigitalisierung / 1937 [1251]

https://www.digital.wienbibliothek.at/wbrobv/periodical/pageview/6590

SINGER Rosa, Schauspiel. (Schauspielerin) VII, Döblergasse 4

Frustratingly so far little to be found on Karl himself.

A mention here:

Theater-Nachrichten des Drei-Masken-Verlages. - 24. Jahrgang, Dezember, 1932, N…

https://www.buchfreund.de/de/d/p/86199366/theater-nachrichten-des-d...

Further details to follow ...