Katherine Collins

Not the same as Katherine Slarkes of Woking, Surry who married George Allen, Clothworker of Queenhithe

Biography

George Allen senior, died in Sandwich, May 2, 1648, aged about 80. In his will, proved 7 June, 1649, he named his five sons, Matthew, Henry, Samuel, George, and Wiiliam, and also made provision for his "five least children," without naming them. His wife, Catherine, was made executrix. She was his second wife and was born about 1605.

"Sometime after George passed away in 1648, Katherine married for a second time to a man named John Collins, who was a shoemaker in Boston."

A deed from Henerey and Samuell Allin of Boston to George Alline of Sandwidge, land in Sandwich given by father George Allin dec'd, deed with consent "of our mother to say now Kathren Collins who hath interest therin during her life," deed dated 10 July, 1656, witnessed by John Collins (Family History Library: Plymouth Colony deeds, volumes 1-6 v. 3, film 0567789, item 2, p. 7). So Katherine died after that date.

Family

From “Descendants of George Allen of England and Sandwich: Generation One.” By Jack E. MacDonald (2019). < PDF >

Probable issue from 2nd marriage: (Surname Allen)

1. John b. ca. 1627 in Eng. 2,3,12,22 m. June 1657 to Sarah Kirby at the Rhode Island M.M., of Rhode Island and Providence Plantations. 24 d. 6 March 1694/1695 at Dartmouth, Bristol Co., Province of Massachusetts Bay. 25
2. William b. ca. 1629 in Eng. 2,3,12,22 m. 21 March 1649/1650 to Priscilla Brown in New Plymouth Colony. 26,27 d. 1 October 1705 at Sandwich, Barnstable Co., Province of Massachusetts Bay. 28
3. Henry b. probably in Eng. m. (1) ca. 1662 to Sarah Hill at Milford, New Haven Colony. Ref: 12,26,29 m. (2) Rebecca (Sherwood) Rose at Stratford, Fairfield Connecticut Colony. (widow of Robert Rose) 12,29,30 d. 1690 at Stratford, Fairfield Co., Connecticut Colony. 9,12,29,31
4. Samuel b. probably in Eng.
5. Gideon b. probably in New Plymouth Colony. m. ca. 1670 to Sarah Prudden at Milford, New Haven Co., Connecticut Colony. 12,32,33,34 d. 1693 at Milford, New Haven Co., Connecticut Colony. bur. Milford Cem., New Haven Co., Connecticut Colony. 35

Notes

George Allen's second wife was a woman named Katherine. Katherine accompanied George to America, and is believed to have been the mother of his five youngest children. According to the roster of passengers making up the Hull party, Katherine was listed as being thirty years old in 1635, thereby indicating that she had probably been born in about 1605 in England.

Disambiguation

Katherine is often confused with Katherine Starkes who married the George Allen that was the son of Richard Allen of the Tower of London, who was still residing in London, England as late as 1640, when he was mentioned in his brother, Henry's, will. This George Allen is also believed to be the same George Allen who died at St. Michael Queenhithe, London on 26 March 1664.

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~jacmac/allen.htm

I have transcribed the will of Henry Allen which was written in April of 1640. He mentions his brother George, sister Susan Willmott, sister Joane Usher, cousin Joseph Usher (should be nephew), brother John, and wife Susan.

Thanks to the The Records of London's Livery Companies Online => http://www.londonroll.org/ I was able to find some tidbits that help confirm the fact that George Allen the clothmaker was a totally different George than the one who immigrated to Mass.

1. Henricus Allen - London - New apprentice, son of Rici - Monnyer - Turri London, London. Jozeph Ussher - Master Co Clothworker. Start Date: 25/07/1610 Apprentice Bond Length: 10 years.

2. Georgius Allen - London - New apprentice, Son of Rici Allen Monnyer - Turrim London, London. Jozeph Ussher - Master Co Clothworker. Start Date: 30/09/1613 Apprentice Bond Length: 9 years.

3. Georg Allen - New freeman Co Clothworker, Jozeph Usher - Master Co Clothworker, 1620.

4. George Allen the Elder Sheeremaker - Queenehithe Master Co Clothworker, William Johnson - London - New apprentice - Start Date: 11/02/1658.

The age of apprenticeship was usually 14-21. So this would give George Allen, clothworker a birth date of about 1598, which would make him about 26 when he married Katherine Slarks. Since George Allen the clothworker from Queenhithe, London was busy still being a clothworker in 1658, he could not have been the George Allen who traveled to America with Rev John Hull since he died in the year 1648.

The Passenger List for the Hull Company bound for New England from England included the following:

• 46 George Allin, aged 24 years.
• 47 Katherine Allin, his wife, aged 30 years.
• 48 George Allin, his son, aged 16 years.
• 49 William Allin, his son, aged 8 years.
• 50 Matthew Allin, his son, aged 6 years.
• 51 Edward Poole, his servant, aged 26 years.

(Please note that the age of George is probably in error. Impossible to be the father of a 16 year old son.)

They left Weymmouth, England and settled in what was Wessagusset in 1633/34. The settlement was incorporated as Weymouth in September 1635.

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/38545440/katherine-allen_collins

Parents are unknown. She married George Allen as his second wife on 5 Nov 1624 in Thurcaston,Leicestershire,England. They had the first two children in Weymouth,Dorset,England and the remaining ones in Sandwich, Barnstable, MA.

Matthew Allen-1627-15 May 1695 Thomas Allen-1628 William Allen-1629-1 Oct 1705 Francis Allen-1633-1 Dec 1696 Gideon Allen-1635-1693 Janes Allen-1636-23 Jul 1714 Henry Allen-1637-1690 Samuel Allen-1641 Caleb Allen-27 Jun 1645 Hester Allen-8 Dec 1648 Judah Allen-30 Jan 1651

Added notes***** Received from F.A.G. member # 47090555 with Thanks. New England Marriages Prior to 1700 states: Catherine Starkes b. 1605 m. 5 Nov 1624 to George Allen as his second wife. She came with George to New England Colonies in 1635 and seemed to marry Mr. Collins after the death of George on 2 May 1648. It is uncertain as to the number of children both of the Katherines had.

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=74674925

Find A Grave # 38545440

George Allen married (2) by 1627, Katherine ____ (assuming that William was her oldest Allen child).

They had five children: William, Mathew, Henry, Samuel, & Gideon.

She married (2) by 1656, John Collins of Boston. On 27 Jul 1670, Gideon Allen was granted administration on the estate of "John Collins late of Boston deceased." (John K. Allen noted the marriage in London on 5 Nov 1624 of "George Allen of London, Clothworker, and Katherine Starkes of Woking," Surrey & noted that this was a good chronological fit for the New England couple. Since George Allen was very likely from Somerset, & is not known to have been in London, this suggestion seems unlikely, but --pending further research-- not impossible.

(In 1990 Joan S. Guilford prepared an unreliable account of George Allen which ascribed to him 15 children, some of whom were actually his grandchildren & others of whom were not related at all.)

Source: Anderson's Great Migration Study Project
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The dates and places of Katherine's purported birth and death, purported date of marriage, and below named children are per the original creator of this memorial. They are subject to considerable revision after careful review of all known historical facts by the current maintainer of this memorial with details to follow. The claim also by the original creator of this memorial that Katherine is buried in Spring Hill Cemetery in Sandwich is a mere guess unsubstantiated by any known record.

The claim that a George Allen, who purportedly married Katherine Starkes in London in 1624, are one and the same as George Allen and his wife Katherine of Sandwich, Mass. is unproved. Such identical identity was a mere suggestion by John Kermott Allen in 1924, which Allen did not believe as proven evidence. This marriage was more recently commented on by Anderson as unlikely evidence in the biographical sketch of George Allen of Sandwich, Mass. in the Great Migration Study Project of the NEHGS (initially Volumes 1-3 of the Great Migration Begins series). For the interested reader, see pp. 3-6 of George Allen of Weymouth, Mass., 1635... available online at https://archive.org/details/georgeallenofwey00alle.

Also see Vol. 1:28 of the Great Migration Study Project of the NEHGS, available online to its members, specifically to 1:28 and 1:30.

In fact, as published by J. K. Allen in 1924 referring to Marriage Licences by the Bishop of London (1611-1828, p. 146), Allen changed the typed maiden name of the intended bride, Katherine "Slarks" to Starks, with the actual recorded marriage record handwritten as "Katherin Slarkes", not Starkes. Thus, in 1624 a George Allen then of London married a Katherine Slarks or Slarkes, not Starkes.

Katherin Starkes, not Slarkes. The scribe often omitted the cross of the t throughout the document, such as 3 lines below for the Fletcher entry, where County is spelled without crossing the t. Also all letters were pronounced, so Starkie and Starkey are homonyms. This name derives from the Medieval English "Stark" itself coming from the Olde English pre 7th Century "stearc" meaning "firm and unyielding". The name was originally given as a nickname to a strong determined person and is first recorded in the early half of the 13th Century.

Based on the above references claiming that Katherine (---)(Allen) Collins was one and the same person as the Katherine who married a George Allen in London in 1624 only serves to perpetuate unproven genealogy.

By the original creator of this memorial:

Parents are unknown. She married George Allen on Nov. 5, 1624 at All Hollows in Honey Lane, London, England. They had the first two children in England and the remaining ones in America.

William Allen-circa 1627-1 Oct 1705.
Matthew Allen-circa 1629-15 May 1695.
Robert Allen, circa 1633-May 15, 1661.
Henry Allen-circa 1637-1690.
Samuel Allen-circa 1640.
Gideon Allen-circa 1645-1693.

References

• http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~rlylebrown/bioallen.html#g...
• http://minerdescent.com/2010/08/03/george-allen-the-elder/
• NOT 04 Nov 1624 George Allen, of St Michael, Queenhithe, London, Clothworker, & Katherine Slarks, Spinster, dau. of [blank] Slarks, decd; at All Hallows, Honey Lane, London. Book Burials. Collection London: - Marriage Licences, 1611-1828. He died in England.
• Birth seen as October 07, 1576 Scriptoft, Leicestershire, England and death seen as November 05, 1624 (48) England, which is the marriage date for Katherine Slarks, above
• http://freepages.rootsweb.com/~jacmac/genealogy/Allen1.htm
• Reference: WikiTree Genealogy - SmartCopy: Jan 21 2016, 21:14:51 UTC
• Reference: FamilySearch Genealogy - SmartCopy: Dec 7 2017, 19:08:29 UTC
• Reference: FamilySearch Genealogy - SmartCopy: Dec 7 2017, 19:08:29 UTC
• https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Unknown-40510