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Leonard Ottley Warner

Birthdate: (47)
Birthplace: Swinderby, Lincoln, England
Death: January 1914 (47)
Pickering, Yorkshire, England (Took his own life)
Place of Burial: Kirby Misperton, North Yorkshire, England, United Kingdom
Immediate Family:

Son of Canon Richard Edward Warner and Mary Jametta Hale Warner
Husband of Florence Elizabeth Mabel Warner and Florence Mabel Warner
Father of Audrey Elizabeth Cromwell Warner; Ashton Christopher Fenwick aka Tony Warner; Joyce Trevor Warner; John Martin Warner; Mary Yeoman aka Molly Warner and 1 other
Brother of Constance Emma Cromwell; Mary Chaloner Warner; Basil Hale Warner and Richard Cromwell aka Dids Warner
Half brother of Constance Emma Cromwell; Mary Chaloner Warner; Basil Hale Warner; Richard Cromwell aka Dids Warner; Lawrence Dundas Warner and 2 others

Occupation: Chaplain & Missionery
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About Leonard Ottley Warner

Leonard was a border at Haileybury. UK

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Leonard Ottley Warner (1867 - 1914) Born 1867 in Snitterby

Son of Richard Edward Warner and Mary Jametta Hale (Yeoman) Warn

Husband of Florence Mabel Elizabeth (Fenwick) Warner — married April 27, 1898 in Chapel Allerton Leedsmap

Father of Richard Ottley Warner

Died March 12, 1914 in Pickering, Yorkshire e : Birth: Date: 1867 Place: Snitterby User ID: DF6176A5-E3B2-4326-AB9A-485376DBE886 Record ID Number: MH:IF39

 Death 

Death: Date: 12 MAR 1914 Place: Pickering, Yorkshire - North Riding Cause: Suicide User ID: F19E7395-3329-4B8C-B8CF-3D2B0C4F1CA0 Record ID Number: MH:IF405

 Event 

Event: Type: Anecdote Date: BET 1892 AND 1893 Place: Mapo near Seoul Korea[1] Note: Wintered in Hired Cottage User ID: E8A587B6-EAB6-44DB-A71F-69AF3DE49429 Record ID Number: MH:IF14584 Event: Type: Mission Date: (FROM ABT 1892 TO ABT 1893) Place: Korea[2] Note: Explore River Systems as route of missionary work User ID: F83F4EFA-D4D2-4D84-ADB3-5EF70A14CAC0 Record ID Number: MH:IF14583 Event: Type: Mission Date: ABT NOV 1893 Place: Kapkotchi[3] Note: Living in Cottage important to Mission Station User ID: 2C2998FD-FD04-46D6-8A8C-DB0233C9CB1B Record ID Number: MH:IF14585 Event: Type: Military Enlistment Date: ABT 1899 Place: Boer War Note: Chaplain to the 11th Hussars User ID: 57D5636D-72D5-4CD0-8D97-84C9EC0A7C6C Record ID Number: MH:IF106111 Event: Type: Military Discharge Date: 29 OCT 1900 Place: Cape Town Note: Invalided home on the Ship Orcana User ID: B68A3AFD-1D83-4152-93B7-15B4EF1B689D Record ID Number: MH:IF106108 Event: Type: Military Service Date: 18 NOV 1900 Place: Plymouth Note: Orcana Arrived with LO aboard User ID: C153572F-954F-4610-BDE9-F48F91C028F2 Record ID Number: MH:IF106109 Event: Type: Anecdote Date: 1901 Place: Hornblotton Note: 1901 visiting Hornblotton Rev Bush who is a cousin. Leonard is Clerk in Holy Orders, curate in charge User ID: 1A91CD16-A117-43AB-B9E3-D7FF3D6E2904 Record ID Number: MH:IF90844 Event: Type: Will Proved Date: 28 MAY 1914 Place: London Object: Format: jpg Title: LOW will 28 May 1914 796 pound 9 shilling 8 pence File: D:\Heritage Stuff\WarnerFarina Family Tree 4th Feb 2012_Photos\P881_1239_227.jpg PHOTO_RIN MH:P882 FILESIZE 68881 Note: 796 pound 9 shilling 8 pence User ID: B56160EB-DAAD-4726-A467-6D56D9740807 Record ID Number: MH:IF153307

 Burial 

Burial: Place: Kirby Misterton User ID: 295FC190-1938-404B-A22E-05FC3E6E1344 Record ID Number: MH:IF2364

 Physical Description 

Physical Description: User ID: C7C3D51B-216C-484D-9710-E9C603A56019 Record ID Number: MH:IF406

 Education 

Education: Great Amwell Hertfordshire Date: 1881 Place: Haileybury Note: Noted as Boarder in 1881 census with head of huousehold "Frederick J Hall" User ID: 8329A254-4C3D-4FF8-8F36-C5451381F7B7 Record ID Number: MH:IF90842

 Occupation 

Occupation: Reverend User ID: E8B8A9F6-560A-41A5-914C-62BC526A84E5 Record ID Number: MH:IF40 Occupation: Resident Chaplain Date: BET 1898 AND 1900 Place: Mount Frere, Kaffraria User ID: 6140B293-0FC7-4237-B01F-5FB3BEDF760F Record ID Number: MH:IF106110

 Title 

Title: Reverend User ID: C8C53C93-9FFC-44A6-8179-976FDDDA89BD Record ID Number: MH:IF42

 Religion 

Religion: Church of England User ID: 20788F17-9A28-4345-B08F-B166492A409B Record ID Number: MH:IF41 45

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Note: L.O.W: 1885 St Aug. college Canterbury 1890- 1896 Society of the propagation of the Gospel Saints Missionary at Seoul in Corea. 1897 –1878 Curate at St Saviours, Leeds 1898- 1900 Incumbent 0f Mt Frere, Kaffraria, acting Chaplain to the forces to South Africa. Field force medals and clasps,1900-1901. 1901-1912 Rector of Congerstone, diocese of Peterborough, (Patron Earl Howe. Gross income £180, net£170 plus house. Pop 200). Domestic Chaplain to Earl Howe. 1913-1914 Kirby Misperton, Pickering. [4] Note: LEONARD OTTLEY WARNER (REVD), 1867/1914, eldest son. Served in Boer War. Had sunstroke and would have died if his brother Duke (Marmaduke 35328), who was his batman, hadn't nursed him back to health . While in Quelimane saw Union Jack being hauled down by Portuguese and was almost shot trying to put it up again with tintacks. Became a missionary and went to Korea and China. Once, after a good m eal, he asked his cook, "Where's my puppy?" and the cook replied, "That was it”. In China he killed a sacred snake that attacked him in a temple; he was then followed all through China and was said to be lucky to escape back to England. There is also a story of his rescue of a Korean Prince, which was not popular with the regime at the time. ed Haileybury and St Augustine's College, Canterbury , he became vicar of various parishes in England including that of Kirby Misperton, and Congerstone - the living given him by Lord Howe of Gopsal Hall. His son Tony (353222) had letters from Lady How e inviting them to dine at Gopsal Hall while King Edward VII was staying there. Leonard married Florence Mabel Fenwick, daughter of Thomas Edward Fenwick of Leeds, a rich and distinguished Yorkshire civil engineer and a great friend of George Stephenson of 'Rocket' fame; he helped to lay out many of the first railway lines in the northeast. One of Thomas's daughters was named Georgina after Ste phenson, who was her godfather, and Tony had the silver spoon he gave her. When Thomas made objections about his daughter marrying a poor clergyman, Leonard said, "My ancestors were making the laws o f England while yours were ploughing the fields”, and got the girl! Their Marriage Settlement is in the Warner box at the Society of Genealogists in London, witnessed by Dids and Lilian Fenwick (Flor ence had marked her sister out as a bride for Dids but he wasn't having any!) Ordering a smart new surplice, Leonard asked that it should have 'bravery' around the neck (the old word for broderie, a kind of lace). On arrival it was found to have the letters B.R.A.V.E.R.Y sewn round the neck at the cost of a shilling each! While out shooting with his brother Dids, two shots jammed in Leonard’s b arrel and when Dids teased him, he put the gun to his brother’s right ear and pulled the trigger. Dids's eardrum was burst and Leonard was very upset (so was Dids!). L shot himself in his drawing ro om in front of his wife, suffering from depression thought to be caused by after-effects of sunstroke - more likely the 'Cromwell Curse'. Florence was run over by a taxi some years later after she ha d moved to London to live with her youngest son. She was badly injured. Her daughter Audrey then aged 17 decided she should not have an operation which would have left her as a vegetable. Leonard an d Florence - usually called Mabel - had 6 children: AUDREY, ASHTON (TONY), JOYCE, JOHN, MARY (MOLLY) and RICHARD[5]

 Record ID Number 

Record ID Number: MH:I15

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User ID: E3D8D3F3-D64C-4E89-B95B-DD3ADD58980D

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UPD 28 DEC 2010 22:13:47 GMT+2

 Sources 

• WikiTree profile Warner-1319 created through the import of MAWarner_B1949_Anc.ged on Feb 26, 2012 by Wombat Allen. See the Changes page for the details of edits by Wombat and others. • Source: S1 Author: Rosie Davis Title: Warner Tree Master Copy Abbreviation: WTMC Record ID Number: MH:S1 User ID: F79E1037-AC12-4BB5-9C20-A86C41A6943C UPD 06 DEC 2008 12:45:48 GMT+2 Data Changed: Date: 26 FEB 2012 Time: 10:04:13 Data: Text: LEONARD OTTLEY WARNER (REVD), 1867/1914, eldest son. Served in Boer War. Had sunstroke and would have died if his brother Duke (Marmaduke 35328), who was his batman, hadn't nursed him back to health . While in Quelimane saw Union Jack being hauled down by Portuguese and was almost shot trying to put it up again with tintacks. Became a missionary and went to Korea and China. Once, after a good m eal, he asked his cook, "Where's my puppy?" and the cook replied, "That was it”. In China he killed a sacred snake that attacked him in a temple; he was then followed all through China and was said to be lucky to escape back to England. There is also a story of his rescue of a Korean Prince, which was not popular with the regime at the time. ed Haileybury and St Augustine's College, Canterbury , he became vicar of various parishes in England including that of Kirby Misperton, and Congerstone - the living given him by Lord Howe of Gopsal Hall. His son Tony (353222) had letters from Lady How e inviting them to dine at Gopsal Hall while King Edward VII was staying there. Leonard married Florence Mabel Fenwick, daughter of Thomas Edward Fenwick of Leeds, a rich and distinguished Yorkshire civil engineer and a great friend of George Stephenson of 'Rocket' fame; he helped to lay out many of the first railway lines in the northeast. One of Thomas's daughters was named Georgina after Ste phenson, who was her godfather, and Tony had the silver spoon he gave her. When Thomas made objections about his daughter marrying a poor clergyman, Leonard said, "My ancestors were making the laws o f England while yours were ploughing the fields”, and got the girl! Their Marriage Settlement is in the Warner box at the Society of Genealogists in London, witnessed by Dids and Lilian Fenwick (Flor ence had marked her sister out as a bride for Dids but he wasn't having any!) Ordering a smart new surplice, Leonard asked that it should have 'bravery' around the neck (the old word for broderie, a kind of lace). On arrival it was found to have the letters B.R.A.V.E.R.Y sewn round the neck at the cost of a shilling each! While out shooting with his brother Dids, two shots jammed in Leonard’s b arrel and when Dids teased him, he put the gun to his brother’s right ear and pulled the trigger. Dids's eardrum was burst and Leonard was very upset (so was Dids!). L shot himself in his drawing ro om in front of his wife, suffering from depression thought to be caused by after-effects of sunstroke - more likely the 'Cromwell Curse'. Florence was run over by a taxi some years later after she ha d moved to London to live with her youngest son. She was badly injured. Her daughter Audrey then aged 17 decided she should not have an operation which would have left her as a vegetable. Leonard an d Florence - usually called Mabel - had 6 children: AUDREY, ASHTON (TONY), JOYCE, JOHN, MARY (MOLLY) and RICHARD Quality or Certainty of Data: 3 • Source: S10 Author: Chris Warner Title: Leonard Ottley Farina Text: Leonard Ottley Warner. CONT b.1867 d.1914 CONT CONT In this research we first come across him in the 1871 census at the Snitterby Rectory with his Father Richard Edward Warner (34) and his mother Mary (26) . Also at this abode are his brothers and sist ers; Constance E.C (5)*, Mary C (2), Basil H (2mts) , and Grandmother Emma B , widow (55) years . There are 6 servants living in. CONT While in Snitterby let us look in the church yard; monumental inscriptions here for Elizabeth Pare Warner, sister of Richard Warner died 23rd April 1863 age 78. Also Richard Edward Warner, Captain in Her Majesty’s 5th Regiment of foot, died 24th April 1863, age 81, a day after his sister. CONT CONT Nearby at Stoke Rochford, (South Stoke), Church, Sts Mary and Andrew, “In memory of Richard Edward Warner Prebendary of Lincoln for 15 years, Rector of this Parish born November 28th 1836, entered in to rest May 3rd 1910. Also of Mary Jametta Hale his wife, who died August 31 1933.” CONT CONT *The first child baptized in the New Church. CONT Burials: R.E.Warner 6th May 1910 age 73. CONT M.J.H.Warner 5th September 1933 age 88. CONT CONT 1858 at Snitterby Rectory, Kirton Lindsey.(Oxford B.A.(hon) 4th class Law etc.) CONT 1859 Curate of Finedon,Northants CONT 1860 M.A. Deacon Manchester; Priest at Peterborough; Rector of Snitterby, 1862 (patron Crown), gross income £302,net £252 and house. CONT 1887-1890 Prebendary(hon. Canon) of Dunholme, Lincs Cathedral . CONT 1889-1994 Vicar of Gainsborough and Prebendery of Corringham at Lincoln Cathedral and Dean of Corringham. CONT He married his first wife, Mary Sarah Hudson in 1846. We then go forward to 1861 census where he is lodging at Poplar Farm Finedon, Northamptonshire, the home of farmer John Hollis and his wife Ann. CONT 1871 census he is at The Rectory Snitterby with wife Mary and his four children and Emma his mother also seven servants. CONT 1881 census he is at The Rectory, Snitterby with his wife Mary and seven children and 4 servants. This census does not show Emma Bridget or Leonard, who is now at Haileybury school. The family has gro wn in the meantime, the additions are: Richard Cromwell Warner (9), Laurence Dundance Warner (7),Wynyard Alexander Warner (5) Marmaduke Warner (3), and 4 servants. CONT CONT 1895 Stoke Rectory, Grantham (patron Bishop of Lincoln). Prebendery of Bedford Magna in Lincoln Cathedral. CONT CONT R.E.W.’s estate gross value £2,567. CONT CONT Leonard Ottley Warner, we found him in the 1881 census at Haileybury school age 14. It is not until much later we find him at St Saviour’s Curch in Leeds, a VERY high Church. His marriage to Florence Mabel Fenwick is well recorded and we can pick her up later at Kirby Misperton in Yorkshire. We are awaiting information on Leonard’s stay at Congerstone, So far no details are known to me about this era. However his experience of the teachings at St Saviour’s was such that he went to do missionary work in particular Corea, as it was spelt in those days. He was there with Bishop Corfe, it is repo rted that “he was there a shortish time, retired in 1896 not before he had done some vigorous pioneering work, of which the mission has since reaped the fruits”. (see Project Canterbury, the Church in Corea by the Rt Rev Mark Napier, Trollope,DD). CONT A marriage settlement between L.O.W and F.M.E.Fenwick was agreed, we are told when he was back at St Saviour’s, “about to reside in S. Africa”. (Marriage settlement arranged; life assurance policy wit h the University L.A. Society, £1000). According to records the marriage was April 1898, he 31 she 28. In the 1901 census Leonard and Mabel are found staying with the cousins Bush at Hornblotton in So mersetshire , with their first child Audrey.E.C. 6 months old. 5 servants on record at this address. CONT Not much more information is available to us until his life at Kirby Misperton where life was not very good to him. He was having “Bouts of depression about every 2 years”, not uncommon in some Warner s. CONT It was while at Kirby Misperton that his work relating to the undertaking of reconstruction of Chapels of Ease was criticised in the local press by ‘anonymous’ reports, which is suggested was partly r esponsible for his final decision to end his life. (see the comments of the Rev Jonathan Cooper in the appendix). CONT Leonard was very high church , in fact Anglo-Catholic, and this may not have been popular in the main to a country Parish. He had followed a very popular and long serving Canon Hutchings, 27 years in this Parish. You will note the archive notes that Leonard was interested in and followed these high Church ways. CONT His instructions for his funeral and burial reflect the standards he hoped to reach. CONT The papers found in the Public Records make for sad reading and so do the private correspondence, some of this is in the appendix. It should be asked how and why did he retain his army revolver, which was the ultimate weapon to put his worries to an end. He must have had this gun well concealed as his wife had no idea that it existed. If only he could have lived to see his extensive and wonderfull family grow up and be so successful. If only we could find the final letter he wrote on his death bed, he regained consciousness before he died, we would know more about his last days. We do not know much about his final days and I know for certain that not all his children knew the story of his death until years after. CONT These are the ages of the children of L.O.W. and his wife F.M.W.when their Father and Mother died: CONT Child L.O.W. death F.M.W. death CONT Audrey 14 34 CONT Tony 13 33 CONT Joyce 9 29 CONT John 8 28 CONT Molly 5 25 CONT Richard 3 23 CONT Where were the children when their Father died, at home ? CONT Audrey may have been at school at this time, no information is known to this compiler. The report in the Rosie Tree suggests that she looked after her 5 brothers and sisters from the age of 14, why an d where was her mother at this time ? CONT Tony may have just been at Haileybury school. The other children would have been at home when their father died. CONT My father Tony was in the Argentine at the time of death of his Mother and did not return to England until 1937. What made him not return as soon as he heard of his Mother’s death ? Did he make a brie f return, was he told? After Leonard died the correspondence with solicitors indicate that the legal and financial aspects of the union were not quite as they should be. Mabel at this time must have b een in terrible conflict with all the problems of Leonard’s sudden demise. From the correspondence you will gather that things were not good. She went visiting her relatives a lot, but where were all her family all this time , who were looking after them ? CONT Something which I think important happened to me when I was once in the office of my Dad and that of my uncle John, they shared the same office.Dad had just returned from visiting a customer, Russell’ s of Kirby Moorside ,the nearest town to Kirby Misperton,where Leonard was buried. The coversation which is clearly imprinted on my mind, went like this; John Warner to Tony, “Well did you find out an ything?” Tony to John, “Yes it is true”. Why this struck me as strange, I can only imagine that as it could not have any bearing of the customers business it could only refer to a personal situation . Nothing further was said in my presence on this .I wonder if the children knew the truth of the Father’s demise, at the time of death. CONT In a letter to Mabel’s solicitors, written by her from ‘Sandsend’, a small sea side village on the East coast of Yorkshire MUCH used for holidays by the family, “I am staying here (Meadowfields) at th e present until things begin to settle down, then I am thinking of Bedford on account of education”. I do not understand this remark, Can anyone throw any light on this, and I refer to Bedford in this context. CONT By the way I have had it confirmed on good authority, by the present vicar for Kirby Misperton, Johnathan Cooper, that L.O.W, against popular belief, was buried in ‘consecrated’ ground CONT I came across his wife Mabel/Florence many years later, just before her death, in London. CONT But before going further into this particular period of her life, let us have a look at her parents. Her Father Thomas Fenwick, born 1824, married his first wife Mary Sarah Hudson, daughter of an innk eeper, in Jarrow 1846. Thomas was described as a surveyor and his father was Richard Fenwick auctioneer. CONT We then find him, Thomas, in an 1861 census in Leeds staying at the White Horse Hotel on Boar Lane aged 37, civil engineer and land agent. CONT His family with his first wife living in Tynemouth with 7 children and one servant. CONT In Thomas’ will, 1902, there are 2 further children. His wife, Mary, died Dec 1862. The 1861 census, Tynemouth, shows the following children; Mary E 14, Charles R 12, Jane E 10, Thomas E J 8, Alice M 6, Emma 3, Amy 1 . However Mary E , Jane E and Emma do not appear in Thomas’ will. CONT Thomas’ 2nd marriage was to Elizabeth Heath Mary Martin age 32, in August 1868. Florence Mabel Elizabeth was their 1st child , born in Leeds. She had a younger sister, Lilian and brother Hubert M. The ir ages at the 1881 census were, 11, 10 and 7, all born in Leeds and living at High Road, Allerton Hill, Leeds. It is interesting to know that Elizabeth Heath Mary Martin’s father was a civil engineer . Thomas,the father, had at least 10 children, one of which was Thomas E J Fenwick who was in the firm of Martin and Fenwick, civil engineers and surveyors of Park Row Leeds, with a home at Scalby nea r Scarborough . CONT Thomas and Elizabeth were married at the the church of Chapel Allerton by Charles Bailey vicar of Morton in Cleveland. Thomas born 1824 in Morpeth died in 1905. Probate to Elizabeth H M Fenwick, Char les Richard Fenwick,civil engineer and Arthur Currer Briggs, colliery proprietor. Effects £55,776. CONT Charles Richard Fenwick born 1849. CONT Thomas Edward John Fenwick born 1853. CONT Elizabeth Heath Mary Martin, Thomas’s second wife was the daughter of Samuel Dickinson and Elizabeth Martin were married in Leeds 6th April 1836. CONT The 1861 census finds Florence,s father Thomas residing at the White Horse Hotel, Boar lane, Leeds. Listed as a visitor, married aged 37, civil engineer and Land agent, born at Morpeth, Northumberland . CONT His family at Norfolk street, Tynemouth: CONT Name Status Married Age Occupation Place of Birth CONT Mary S Fenwick head married 36 Surveyour’s wife N.Shields. CONT Mary E.F., daughter 14 scholar North Shields CONT Charles R.F son 12 “ “ CONT Jane E,F daughter 10 “ “ CONT Thomas E J F son 8 “ “ CONT *Alice M daughter 6 “ “ CONT Emma F daughter 3 “ “ CONT Amy F daughter 1 “ “ CONT Of these children the only ones NOT noted in Thomas’ will are Mary E , Jane E, and Emma. CONT *Who is Alice Crowther CONT Thomas’ wife died in August 1862. CONT The 1881 census shows Thomas with his 2nd wife Elizabeth Heath Mary (Martin), who he married in August 1868. He is shown with two children of his previous marriage plus three from this marriage. CONT CONT Name Status Married Age Occupation CONT Thomas F head married 57 civil engineer CONT Elizabeth H M wife 45 CONT Thomas E J son 28 assistant engineer CONT Amy E daughter 21 CONT Florence M E daughter 11 CONT Lilian H* daughter 10 CONT Hubert M son 7 CONT *known as Billy CONT Also in the household are 4 servants. CONT CONT Charles, Thomas’ son, was a widower in 1901. His first wife was Margaret Middleton of Leeds. He is shown in the 1901 census living in the village of Preston, Preston House, Tynemouth, along with his 2 8 year old servant Agnes Payne. His will 12 Nov 1902 gives an insight to his stock holding in railway companies; The Midland, The London and North Western, The North Eastern, The Lancashire and Yorksh ire. CONT The 1841 census for Wansbeck Terrace Morpeth shows : CONT Name Status Married Age Occupation Place of Birth CONT Richard Fenwick 70 Auctioneer North Shields CONT Hannah wife married 50 CONT CONT Thomas son 17 land surveyour’s apprentice “ CONT Edward son 14 CONT Margaret daughter 12 CONT (in this census ages of adults were rounded down to the nearest 5). CONT CONT The family was not found in 1851 census. CONT The 1861 census shows ; CONT Name Status Married Age Occupation CONT Hannah Fenwick Head 70 CONT Margaret daughter unmarried 32 teacher CONT CONT CONT CONT CONT CONT Thomas left his sister Margaret an annuity of £100. Margaret probably never married. CONT Richard F died ,it is thought, in March 1859, but another death is recorded for a Richard Fenwick in 1845 ! CONT CONT Thomas’ son Richard married Margaret Middleton 25th April 1878 at Chapel Allerton in Leeds. He was a 29 year old surveyour. Margaret was 27 and from Hawkhills Chapel allerton. Her father was William M iddleton, solicitor. CONT This could be of interested to future research, as a John Middleton joined up with Alec Joy of Edward Joy and sons of Leeds (Filtrate oil company). Alec owned the company and a J A Middleton was broug ht in as a director. He subsequently changed his name to “Middleton Joy”. CONT The purpose of this information on the Fenwick families is to explain the wealth in this family. It is also known that the Fenwick family had a working relationship/friendship with George Stephenson o f The Rocket fame. CONT Thomas had a house in Scalby near Scarborough. He desired to be interred in the Churchyard there. So afraid of being buried alive, he directed his trustees to take all necessary steps to ensure that h is death had actually taken place before burying him, and to pay a medical man his fee for doing so. So says in the book “a history of Scalby”. He died aged 80 on 10/1/1905 in Leeds of Bronchitis, Car diac Syncope. The gross value of his estate was about £50,000. Probate granted to Elizabeth H M Fenwick. Charles R Fenwick, Thomas E Fenwick and his old friend Arthur Currer Briggs, who was a colliery proprietor of Gledhow Grange Leeds. CONT CONT Florence Mabel Fenwick,(my grandmother), CONT Born 26th August 1869 . Married 1898 Leonard Ottley Warner, age 31, she 28. CONT Died 12th Dec 1934(65) CONT CONT It was curious to find other similar Warner names in the Death Index: June 1915 Florence Warner aged 41 in Kensington CONT Dec 1918 Florence M Warner aged 54 in Steyning CONT Dec 1922 Mabel Warner aged 57 in Winchester. CONT Grandmother was the eldest child of her father’s 2nd marriage. CONT CONT Leonard first appears in the 1871 census for Snitterby(Lincs) with the family at the Rectory here aged 4. Others on this census are, Richard E Warner, Mary Hale Warner, Constance aged 5, Mary C aged 2 , Basil H aged 2mths, Emma Warner ,widow of Capt Richard Warner and 6 servants. CONT 1881 census they are still at Snitterby plus Richard C Warner aged 9, Laurence aged 7, Winyard aged 5, Marmaduke aged 3 and 4 servants. Leonard is not here then but was at Haileybury college aged 14. CONT Interestingly the father R.E.W. and Aunt Mary W died on the same day in 1863. CONT CONT 1901 census finds Leonard, Florence and Audrey, aged 6mths, visiting the Bush family at the Rectory Hornblotton in Devon. CONT CONT Leonard married Florence Mabel Fenwick on 27th April 1898 at Chapel Allerton Leeds. He was 31 she was 28. His father Canon REW married them. He was influenced by high Catholic standards (not Roman) wh ile at Saint Saviours Leeds. He was a missionary college student in “Corea” in 1890. This lasted 6 years, about 2 years before his marriage. We have 17 pages dealing with the Church in “Corea” at that time, not very interesting to me. He was with Bishop Corfe there as a missionary.Len (“Retired not before he had done some vigorous pioneer work of which the mission has since reaped the fruits”), S ee Project Canterbury, The Church in Corea by The Rev Mark Rapier Trolloppe,DD. CONT CONT Much of the large amount of documents, mostly legal, are reproduced in appendix files. CONT CONT My father Tony (Ashton) was in the Argentine when his mother, Mabel/Florence, was killed. Also my aunt Billy, Florence’s sister was in the Argentine around that time. We wonder how or indeed if the ne ws got to Dad at that time, as he was in no rush to return home! CONT CONT In the document headed “Leonard Ottley Warner, priest”, he was involved with”CBS”, which is Confraternity of the Blessed Sacrement,(see details http://www.confraternity.org.uk/) “UMCA” stands for the “Universities’ mission to Central Africa”, now defunct. “SDC” is The Society of Devine Compassion”, (see http://www.fodc.net/ourroots.hlml. ) . Also there was an involvement with “Cowley fathers”,(ht tp://www.ssje.org) . There is no doubt that he was a firmAngloCatholic,(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/anglo-catholicism). CONT This document on Leonard, undated, is clearly important as far as He is concerned as you will note in his (“Instructions to be carefully observed when my death takes place” written into his will, unda ted and also “Instructions for the day of my funeral”, also undated). CONT A great deal has been said about Leonard’s death, and so I have attached copies of newspaper reports, which have been found. CONT I think that the most significant one is The Times, 14/03/14, CONT “Yorkshire Rectors death”. There had been some opposition to some of his work, that centred on restoration of Barugh Church and Ryton Church, demolished shortly after the 1st war. Barugh was turned in to a private residence, late 1970. Else where I have reproduced some comments given to me by Johnathan Cooper the present incumbent for several parishes including Kirby Misperton. CONT The gross value of Leonard’s estate was £796.9.8, net value £300.13.0. Probate granted to Florence. A marriage settlement made by Leonard in favour of Florence had been made in the form of a life ins urance policy and dated 25/4/1898; Len aged 31 and Flo 28. This settlement was necessary to gain permission from Flo’s Father for the marriage. The settlement was dated 25/4/1898, 2 days before the we dding! CONT There is no information that I can find that she went with him on his work abroad, he was in Africa in 1898. CONT In 1901 he was priest at Congerston in Leicestershire. CONT CONT Much information has been uncovered of a legal nature in document form, which is copyright, which can be found at the Lincolnshire archives and some in my papers. CONT CONT Florence must have had a poor life after Len’s death. Finances were in a poor way. She seems to have spread herself around her sisters and relatives. Though no information can be found, except the odd photo, of time spent with her children. CONT However I did find her just before her tragic accident (Dec 11th 1934) at 30 St John’s Avenue, Hampstead in 1934. CONT This address seems to be some sort of lodging house. There are 12 residents in 1933. Surprisingly Joyce Mabel Warner and Richard Ottley Warner are there. In 1934 census Joyce and Richard are not there , but amongst the 14 residents was Florence. She was either going from or to this address to College Crescent on the 12 Dec 1934 when a Taxi knocked her down. She died the very next day in New End Hos pital from a fractured skull and other multiple injuries,(accidental death, PM). CONT Does anyone know where Joyce and Richard went after St John’s Avenue? It would be interesting to find out why she took residence here when Roehampton, Audrey and Alec’s place was not far away. She is buried at Ickenham the same graveyard where Madeleine Joy, Alec’s first wife, was buried. Why was she not buried near to her husband Leonard at Kirby Misperton in Yorkshire? CONT Florence’s will made in 1928 was witnessed by Clara Fenwick, Elizabeth Maw. A codicil, 11/3/1930 witnessed by L.T.Connell of Danby Wiske Rectory Northallerton and Edith H Paton, clergy house of rest ( Scarborough), widow. CONT Her estate, gross £7,140 net £7,068, duty paid. Probate Audrey E C Joy, J M Warner, Capt Geofrey Stephen, Carmac Weigall (nephew), renounced probate and codicil. CONT CONT CONT L.O.W: 1885 St Aug. college Canterbury CONT 1890- 1896 Society of the propagation of the Gospel Saints Missionary at Seoul in Corea. CONT 1897 –1878 Curate at St Saviours, Leeds CONT 1898- 1900 Incumbent 0f Mt Frere, Kaffraria, acting Chaplain to the forces to South Africa. Field force medals and clasps,1900-1901. CONT 1901-1912 Rector of Congerstone, diocese of Peterborough, (Patron Earl Howe. Gross income £180, net£170 plus house. Pop 200). Domestic Chaplain to Earl Howe. CONT 1913-1914 Kirby Misperton, Pickering. CONT CONT I have not been able to find any records of Leonard’s life at Congerstone, 1901-1912, there must be something somewhere. Further research would surely uncover some valuable information. This is a pity as it must have been a very important time in his life. CONT CONT 1901 census, Len and Mabel are at Hornblotton,Somerset, staying with Cousins Bush. Len aged 34 Flo 31 and also we see Audrey with them aged 6 months. 5 servants. CONT CONT It was at Kirby Misperton that things started to go wrong. Bouts of depression, not uncommon in the Warners, were believed to cause concern. His work at Kirby Misperton was in the main admired, but he found the anonymous criticism in the local press too much to bear. This was with regard to his work in improving two Chapels of ease. CONT Being very high church, Anglo-Catholic, which may not have gone down well or possibly unpopular in a country Parish. Len followed a very popular Canon Hutchings, 27 years in the Parish. CONT CONT I have after two or more years to curtail this research as I know that there is so much more to investigate . Anyone wishing to continue this research can find the relevant documents that I have accum ulated in the archives of York university family history department, York Archives, and An important quite new ‘Access to Archives’ at www.a2a.org.uk/-19k . It may take me some time to do this. In th e meantime I am sending the files referred to in this research to the immediate “heads” of this generation of Warner families in the hope that these notes will be made known and indeed made available to any interested parties, particularly your offspring who, hopefully, may become interested in this quite famous family. Famous and important enough to be included in Burke’s Peerage, the recognised ‘bible’ of Britain’s most important families. CONT CONT CONT Perhaps a few errors may have crept into this transcript for which I apologise. CONT CONT PLEASE PASS ON THE WARNER HISTORY TO YOUR FAMILIES AND FUTURE ASSOCIATES. AS THAT WAS THE MAIN PURPOSE OF UNDERTAKING THIS TASK AND TO ENSURE THE HISTORY LIVES ON. Chris Warner. 2008 CONT Record ID Number: MH:S10 User ID: 8B5FB23E-A6E0-4F2F-85B5-E7C4FB695D9E UPD 09 DEC 2008 17:57:05 GMT+2 Data: Text: LEONARD OTTLEY WARNER (REVD), 1867/1914, eldest son. Served in Boer War. Had sunstroke and would have died if his brother Duke (Marmaduke 35328), who was his batman, hadn't nursed him back to health . While in Quelimane saw Union Jack being hauled down by Portuguese and was almost shot trying to put it up again with tintacks. Became a missionary and went to Korea and China. Once, after a good m eal, he asked his cook, "Where's my puppy?" and the cook replied, "That was it”. In China he killed a sacred snake that attacked him in a temple; he was then followed all through China and was said to be lucky to escape back to England. There is also a story of his rescue of a Korean Prince, which was not popular with the regime at the time. ed Haileybury and St Augustine's College, Canterbury , he became vicar of various parishes in England including that of Kirby Misperton, and Congerstone - the living given him by Lord Howe of Gopsal Hall. His son Tony (353222) had letters from Lady How e inviting them to dine at Gopsal Hall while King Edward VII was staying there. Leonard married Florence Mabel Fenwick, daughter of Thomas Edward Fenwick of Leeds, a rich and distinguished Yorkshire civil engineer and a great friend of George Stephenson of 'Rocket' fame; he helped to lay out many of the first railway lines in the northeast. One of Thomas's daughters was named Georgina after Ste phenson, who was her godfather, and Tony had the silver spoon he gave her. When Thomas made objections about his daughter marrying a poor clergyman, Leonard said, "My ancestors were making the laws o f England while yours were ploughing the fields”, and got the girl! Their Marriage Settlement is in the Warner box at the Society of Genealogists in London, witnessed by Dids and Lilian Fenwick (Flor ence had marked her sister out as a bride for Dids but he wasn't having any!) Ordering a smart new surplice, Leonard asked that it should have 'bravery' around the neck (the old word for broderie, a kind of lace). On arrival it was found to have the letters B.R.A.V.E.R.Y sewn round the neck at the cost of a shilling each! While out shooting with his brother Dids, two shots jammed in Leonard’s b arrel and when Dids teased him, he put the gun to his brother’s right ear and pulled the trigger. Dids's eardrum was burst and Leonard was very upset (so was Dids!). L shot himself in his drawing ro om in front of his wife, suffering from depression thought to be caused by after-effects of sunstroke - more likely the 'Cromwell Curse'. Florence was run over by a taxi some years later after she ha d moved to London to live with her youngest son. She was badly injured. Her daughter Audrey then aged 17 decided she should not have an operation which would have left her as a vegetable. Leonard an d Florence - usually called Mabel - had 6 children: AUDREY, ASHTON (TONY), JOYCE, JOHN, MARY (MOLLY) and RICHARD Quality or Certainty of Data: 30 • Source: S145 Author: <unknown> captjohnsmith1912 Title: captjohnsmith1912 Web Site Type: Smart Matching Text: MyHeritage.com family tree CONT Family site: captjohnsmith1912 Web Site CONT Family tree: gresham170610 Record ID Number: MH:S145 User ID: 6E167EA3-AB1B-4D78-8BD5-0D660C0BED03 Media: 9731562-7 Data Changed: Date: 26 FEB 2012 Time: 10:04:13 Data: Text: LEONARD OTTLEY WARNER (REVD), 1867/1914, eldest son. Served in Boer War. Had sunstroke and would have died if his brother Duke (Marmaduke 35328), who was his batman, hadn't nursed him back to health . While in Quelimane saw Union Jack being hauled down by Portuguese and was almost shot trying to put it up again with tintacks. Became a missionary and went to Korea and China. Once, after a good m eal, he asked his cook, "Where's my puppy?" and the cook replied, "That was it”. In China he killed a sacred snake that attacked him in a temple; he was then followed all through China and was said to be lucky to escape back to England. There is also a story of his rescue of a Korean Prince, which was not popular with the regime at the time. ed Haileybury and St Augustine's College, Canterbury , he became vicar of various parishes in England including that of Kirby Misperton, and Congerstone - the living given him by Lord Howe of Gopsal Hall. His son Tony (353222) had letters from Lady How e inviting them to dine at Gopsal Hall while King Edward VII was staying there. Leonard married Florence Mabel Fenwick, daughter of Thomas Edward Fenwick of Leeds, a rich and distinguished Yorkshire civil engineer and a great friend of George Stephenson of 'Rocket' fame; he helped to lay out many of the first railway lines in the northeast. One of Thomas's daughters was named Georgina after Ste phenson, who was her godfather, and Tony had the silver spoon he gave her. When Thomas made objections about his daughter marrying a poor clergyman, Leonard said, "My ancestors were making the laws o f England while yours were ploughing the fields”, and got the girl! Their Marriage Settlement is in the Warner box at the Society of Genealogists in London, witnessed by Dids and Lilian Fenwick (Flor ence had marked her sister out as a bride for Dids but he wasn't having any!) Ordering a smart new surplice, Leonard asked that it should have 'bravery' around the neck (the old word for broderie, a kind of lace). On arrival it was found to have the letters B.R.A.V.E.R.Y sewn round the neck at the cost of a shilling each! While out shooting with his brother Dids, two shots jammed in Leonard’s b arrel and when Dids teased him, he put the gun to his brother’s right ear and pulled the trigger. Dids's eardrum was burst and Leonard was very upset (so was Dids!). L shot himself in his drawing ro om in front of his wife, suffering from depression thought to be caused by after-effects of sunstroke - more likely the 'Cromwell Curse'. Florence was run over by a taxi some years later after she ha d moved to London to live with her youngest son. She was badly injured. Her daughter Audrey then aged 17 decided she should not have an operation which would have left her as a vegetable. 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CONT b.1867 d.1914 CONT CONT In this research we first come across him in the 1871 census at the Snitterby Rectory with his Father Richard Edward Warner (34) and his mother Mary (26) . Also at this abode are his brothers and sist ers; Constance E.C (5)*, Mary C (2), Basil H (2mts) , and Grandmother Emma B , widow (55) years . There are 6 servants living in. CONT While in Snitterby let us look in the church yard; monumental inscriptions here for Elizabeth Pare Warner, sister of Richard Warner died 23rd April 1863 age 78. Also Richard Edward Warner, Captain in Her Majesty’s 5th Regiment of foot, died 24th April 1863, age 81, a day after his sister. CONT CONT Nearby at Stoke Rochford, (South Stoke), Church, Sts Mary and Andrew, “In memory of Richard Edward Warner Prebendary of Lincoln for 15 years, Rector of this Parish born November 28th 1836, entered in to rest May 3rd 1910. Also of Mary Jametta Hale his wife, who died August 31 1933.” CONT CONT *The first child baptized in the New Church. CONT Burials: R.E.Warner 6th May 1910 age 73. CONT M.J.H.Warner 5th September 1933 age 88. CONT CONT 1858 at Snitterby Rectory, Kirton Lindsey.(Oxford B.A.(hon) 4th class Law etc.) CONT 1859 Curate of Finedon,Northants CONT 1860 M.A. Deacon Manchester; Priest at Peterborough; Rector of Snitterby, 1862 (patron Crown), gross income £302,net £252 and house. CONT 1887-1890 Prebendary(hon. Canon) of Dunholme, Lincs Cathedral . CONT 1889-1994 Vicar of Gainsborough and Prebendery of Corringham at Lincoln Cathedral and Dean of Corringham. CONT He married his first wife, Mary Sarah Hudson in 1846. We then go forward to 1861 census where he is lodging at Poplar Farm Finedon, Northamptonshire, the home of farmer John Hollis and his wife Ann. CONT 1871 census he is at The Rectory Snitterby with wife Mary and his four children and Emma his mother also seven servants. CONT 1881 census he is at The Rectory, Snitterby with his wife Mary and seven children and 4 servants. This census does not show Emma Bridget or Leonard, who is now at Haileybury school. The family has gro wn in the meantime, the additions are: Richard Cromwell Warner (9), Laurence Dundance Warner (7),Wynyard Alexander Warner (5) Marmaduke Warner (3), and 4 servants. CONT CONT 1895 Stoke Rectory, Grantham (patron Bishop of Lincoln). Prebendery of Bedford Magna in Lincoln Cathedral. CONT CONT R.E.W.’s estate gross value £2,567. CONT CONT Leonard Ottley Warner, we found him in the 1881 census at Haileybury school age 14. It is not until much later we find him at St Saviour’s Curch in Leeds, a VERY high Church. His marriage to Florence Mabel Fenwick is well recorded and we can pick her up later at Kirby Misperton in Yorkshire. We are awaiting information on Leonard’s stay at Congerstone, So far no details are known to me about this era. However his experience of the teachings at St Saviour’s was such that he went to do missionary work in particular Corea, as it was spelt in those days. He was there with Bishop Corfe, it is repo rted that “he was there a shortish time, retired in 1896 not before he had done some vigorous pioneering work, of which the mission has since reaped the fruits”. (see Project Canterbury, the Church in Corea by the Rt Rev Mark Napier, Trollope,DD). CONT A marriage settlement between L.O.W and F.M.E.Fenwick was agreed, we are told when he was back at St Saviour’s, “about to reside in S. Africa”. (Marriage settlement arranged; life assurance policy wit h the University L.A. Society, £1000). According to records the marriage was April 1898, he 31 she 28. In the 1901 census Leonard and Mabel are found staying with the cousins Bush at Hornblotton in So mersetshire , with their first child Audrey.E.C. 6 months old. 5 servants on record at this address. CONT Not much more information is available to us until his life at Kirby Misperton where life was not very good to him. He was having “Bouts of depression about every 2 years”, not uncommon in some Warner s. CONT It was while at Kirby Misperton that his work relating to the undertaking of reconstruction of Chapels of Ease was criticised in the local press by ‘anonymous’ reports, which is suggested was partly r esponsible for his final decision to end his life. (see the comments of the Rev Jonathan Cooper in the appendix). CONT Leonard was very high church , in fact Anglo-Catholic, and this may not have been popular in the main to a country Parish. He had followed a very popular and long serving Canon Hutchings, 27 years in this Parish. You will note the archive notes that Leonard was interested in and followed these high Church ways. CONT His instructions for his funeral and burial reflect the standards he hoped to reach. CONT The papers found in the Public Records make for sad reading and so do the private correspondence, some of this is in the appendix. It should be asked how and why did he retain his army revolver, which was the ultimate weapon to put his worries to an end. He must have had this gun well concealed as his wife had no idea that it existed. If only he could have lived to see his extensive and wonderfull family grow up and be so successful. If only we could find the final letter he wrote on his death bed, he regained consciousness before he died, we would know more about his last days. We do not know much about his final days and I know for certain that not all his children knew the story of his death until years after. CONT These are the ages of the children of L.O.W. and his wife F.M.W.when their Father and Mother died: CONT Child L.O.W. death F.M.W. death CONT Audrey 14 34 CONT Tony 13 33 CONT Joyce 9 29 CONT John 8 28 CONT Molly 5 25 CONT Richard 3 23 CONT Where were the children when their Father died, at home ? CONT Audrey may have been at school at this time, no information is known to this compiler. The report in the Rosie Tree suggests that she looked after her 5 brothers and sisters from the age of 14, why an d where was her mother at this time ? CONT Tony may have just been at Haileybury school. The other children would have been at home when their father died. CONT My father Tony was in the Argentine at the time of death of his Mother and did not return to England until 1937. What made him not return as soon as he heard of his Mother’s death ? Did he make a brie f return, was he told? After Leonard died the correspondence with solicitors indicate that the legal and financial aspects of the union were not quite as they should be. Mabel at this time must have b een in terrible conflict with all the problems of Leonard’s sudden demise. From the correspondence you will gather that things were not good. She went visiting her relatives a lot, but where were all her family all this time , who were looking after them ? CONT Something which I think important happened to me when I was once in the office of my Dad and that of my uncle John, they shared the same office.Dad had just returned from visiting a customer, Russell’ s of Kirby Moorside ,the nearest town to Kirby Misperton,where Leonard was buried. The coversation which is clearly imprinted on my mind, went like this; John Warner to Tony, “Well did you find out an ything?” Tony to John, “Yes it is true”. Why this struck me as strange, I can only imagine that as it could not have any bearing of the customers business it could only refer to a personal situation . Nothing further was said in my presence on this .I wonder if the children knew the truth of the Father’s demise, at the time of death. CONT In a letter to Mabel’s solicitors, written by her from ‘Sandsend’, a small sea side village on the East coast of Yorkshire MUCH used for holidays by the family, “I am staying here (Meadowfields) at th e present until things begin to settle down, then I am thinking of Bedford on account of education”. I do not understand this remark, Can anyone throw any light on this, and I refer to Bedford in this context. CONT By the way I have had it confirmed on good authority, by the present vicar for Kirby Misperton, Johnathan Cooper, that L.O.W, against popular belief, was buried in ‘consecrated’ ground CONT I came across his wife Mabel/Florence many years later, just before her death, in London. CONT But before going further into this particular period of her life, let us have a look at her parents. Her Father Thomas Fenwick, born 1824, married his first wife Mary Sarah Hudson, daughter of an innk eeper, in Jarrow 1846. Thomas was described as a surveyor and his father was Richard Fenwick auctioneer. CONT We then find him, Thomas, in an 1861 census in Leeds staying at the White Horse Hotel on Boar Lane aged 37, civil engineer and land agent. CONT His family with his first wife living in Tynemouth with 7 children and one servant. CONT In Thomas’ will, 1902, there are 2 further children. His wife, Mary, died Dec 1862. The 1861 census, Tynemouth, shows the following children; Mary E 14, Charles R 12, Jane E 10, Thomas E J 8, Alice M 6, Emma 3, Amy 1 . However Mary E , Jane E and Emma do not appear in Thomas’ will. CONT Thomas’ 2nd marriage was to Elizabeth Heath Mary Martin age 32, in August 1868. Florence Mabel Elizabeth was their 1st child , born in Leeds. She had a younger sister, Lilian and brother Hubert M. The ir ages at the 1881 census were, 11, 10 and 7, all born in Leeds and living at High Road, Allerton Hill, Leeds. It is interesting to know that Elizabeth Heath Mary Martin’s father was a civil engineer . Thomas,the father, had at least 10 children, one of which was Thomas E J Fenwick who was in the firm of Martin and Fenwick, civil engineers and surveyors of Park Row Leeds, with a home at Scalby nea r Scarborough . CONT Thomas and Elizabeth were married at the the church of Chapel Allerton by Charles Bailey vicar of Morton in Cleveland. Thomas born 1824 in Morpeth died in 1905. Probate to Elizabeth H M Fenwick, Char les Richard Fenwick,civil engineer and Arthur Currer Briggs, colliery proprietor. Effects £55,776. CONT Charles Richard Fenwick born 1849. CONT Thomas Edward John Fenwick born 1853. CONT Elizabeth Heath Mary Martin, Thomas’s second wife was the daughter of Samuel Dickinson and Elizabeth Martin were married in Leeds 6th April 1836. CONT The 1861 census finds Florence,s father Thomas residing at the White Horse Hotel, Boar lane, Leeds. Listed as a visitor, married aged 37, civil engineer and Land agent, born at Morpeth, Northumberland . CONT His family at Norfolk street, Tynemouth: CONT Name Status Married Age Occupation Place of Birth CONT Mary S Fenwick head married 36 Surveyour’s wife N.Shields. CONT Mary E.F., daughter 14 scholar North Shields CONT Charles R.F son 12 “ “ CONT Jane E,F daughter 10 “ “ CONT Thomas E J F son 8 “ “ CONT *Alice M daughter 6 “ “ CONT Emma F daughter 3 “ “ CONT Amy F daughter 1 “ “ CONT Of these children the only ones NOT noted in Thomas’ will are Mary E , Jane E, and Emma. CONT *Who is Alice Crowther CONT Thomas’ wife died in August 1862. CONT The 1881 census shows Thomas with his 2nd wife Elizabeth Heath Mary (Martin), who he married in August 1868. He is shown with two children of his previous marriage plus three from this marriage. CONT CONT Name Status Married Age Occupation CONT Thomas F head married 57 civil engineer CONT Elizabeth H M wife 45 CONT Thomas E J son 28 assistant engineer CONT Amy E daughter 21 CONT Florence M E daughter 11 CONT Lilian H* daughter 10 CONT Hubert M son 7 CONT *known as Billy CONT Also in the household are 4 servants. CONT CONT Charles, Thomas’ son, was a widower in 1901. His first wife was Margaret Middleton of Leeds. He is shown in the 1901 census living in the village of Preston, Preston House, Tynemouth, along with his 2 8 year old servant Agnes Payne. His will 12 Nov 1902 gives an insight to his stock holding in railway companies; The Midland, The London and North Western, The North Eastern, The Lancashire and Yorksh ire. CONT The 1841 census for Wansbeck Terrace Morpeth shows : CONT Name Status Married Age Occupation Place of Birth CONT Richard Fenwick 70 Auctioneer North Shields CONT Hannah wife married 50 CONT CONT Thomas son 17 land surveyour’s apprentice “ CONT Edward son 14 CONT Margaret daughter 12 CONT (in this census ages of adults were rounded down to the nearest 5). CONT CONT The family was not found in 1851 census. CONT The 1861 census shows ; CONT Name Status Married Age Occupation CONT Hannah Fenwick Head 70 CONT Margaret daughter unmarried 32 teacher CONT CONT CONT CONT CONT CONT Thomas left his sister Margaret an annuity of £100. Margaret probably never married. CONT Richard F died ,it is thought, in March 1859, but another death is recorded for a Richard Fenwick in 1845 ! CONT CONT Thomas’ son Richard married Margaret Middleton 25th April 1878 at Chapel Allerton in Leeds. He was a 29 year old surveyour. Margaret was 27 and from Hawkhills Chapel allerton. Her father was William M iddleton, solicitor. CONT This could be of interested to future research, as a John Middleton joined up with Alec Joy of Edward Joy and sons of Leeds (Filtrate oil company). Alec owned the company and a J A Middleton was broug ht in as a director. He subsequently changed his name to “Middleton Joy”. CONT The purpose of this information on the Fenwick families is to explain the wealth in this family. It is also known that the Fenwick family had a working relationship/friendship with George Stephenson o f The Rocket fame. CONT Thomas had a house in Scalby near Scarborough. He desired to be interred in the Churchyard there. So afraid of being buried alive, he directed his trustees to take all necessary steps to ensure that h is death had actually taken place before burying him, and to pay a medical man his fee for doing so. So says in the book “a history of Scalby”. He died aged 80 on 10/1/1905 in Leeds of Bronchitis, Car diac Syncope. The gross value of his estate was about £50,000. Probate granted to Elizabeth H M Fenwick. Charles R Fenwick, Thomas E Fenwick and his old friend Arthur Currer Briggs, who was a colliery proprietor of Gledhow Grange Leeds. CONT CONT Florence Mabel Fenwick,(my grandmother), CONT Born 26th August 1869 . Married 1898 Leonard Ottley Warner, age 31, she 28. CONT Died 12th Dec 1934(65) CONT CONT It was curious to find other similar Warner names in the Death Index: June 1915 Florence Warner aged 41 in Kensington CONT Dec 1918 Florence M Warner aged 54 in Steyning CONT Dec 1922 Mabel Warner aged 57 in Winchester. CONT Grandmother was the eldest child of her father’s 2nd marriage. CONT CONT Leonard first appears in the 1871 census for Snitterby(Lincs) with the family at the Rectory here aged 4. Others on this census are, Richard E Warner, Mary Hale Warner, Constance aged 5, Mary C aged 2 , Basil H aged 2mths, Emma Warner ,widow of Capt Richard Warner and 6 servants. CONT 1881 census they are still at Snitterby plus Richard C Warner aged 9, Laurence aged 7, Winyard aged 5, Marmaduke aged 3 and 4 servants. Leonard is not here then but was at Haileybury college aged 14. CONT Interestingly the father R.E.W. and Aunt Mary W died on the same day in 1863. CONT CONT 1901 census finds Leonard, Florence and Audrey, aged 6mths, visiting the Bush family at the Rectory Hornblotton in Devon. CONT CONT Leonard married Florence Mabel Fenwick on 27th April 1898 at Chapel Allerton Leeds. He was 31 she was 28. His father Canon REW married them. He was influenced by high Catholic standards (not Roman) wh ile at Saint Saviours Leeds. He was a missionary college student in “Corea” in 1890. This lasted 6 years, about 2 years before his marriage. We have 17 pages dealing with the Church in “Corea” at that time, not very interesting to me. He was with Bishop Corfe there as a missionary.Len (“Retired not before he had done some vigorous pioneer work of which the mission has since reaped the fruits”), S ee Project Canterbury, The Church in Corea by The Rev Mark Rapier Trolloppe,DD. CONT CONT Much of the large amount of documents, mostly legal, are reproduced in appendix files. CONT CONT My father Tony (Ashton) was in the Argentine when his mother, Mabel/Florence, was killed. Also my aunt Billy, Florence’s sister was in the Argentine around that time. We wonder how or indeed if the ne ws got to Dad at that time, as he was in no rush to return home! CONT CONT In the document headed “Leonard Ottley Warner, priest”, he was involved with”CBS”, which is Confraternity of the Blessed Sacrement,(see details http://www.confraternity.org.uk/) “UMCA” stands for the “Universities’ mission to Central Africa”, now defunct. “SDC” is The Society of Devine Compassion”, (see http://www.fodc.net/ourroots.hlml. ) . Also there was an involvement with “Cowley fathers”,(ht tp://www.ssje.org) . There is no doubt that he was a firmAngloCatholic,(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/anglo-catholicism). CONT This document on Leonard, undated, is clearly important as far as He is concerned as you will note in his (“Instructions to be carefully observed when my death takes place” written into his will, unda ted and also “Instructions for the day of my funeral”, also undated). CONT A great deal has been said about Leonard’s death, and so I have attached copies of newspaper reports, which have been found. CONT I think that the most significant one is The Times, 14/03/14, CONT “Yorkshire Rectors death”. There had been some opposition to some of his work, that centred on restoration of Barugh Church and Ryton Church, demolished shortly after the 1st war. Barugh was turned in to a private residence, late 1970. Else where I have reproduced some comments given to me by Johnathan Cooper the present incumbent for several parishes including Kirby Misperton. CONT The gross value of Leonard’s estate was £796.9.8, net value £300.13.0. Probate granted to Florence. A marriage settlement made by Leonard in favour of Florence had been made in the form of a life ins urance policy and dated 25/4/1898; Len aged 31 and Flo 28. This settlement was necessary to gain permission from Flo’s Father for the marriage. The settlement was dated 25/4/1898, 2 days before the we dding! CONT There is no information that I can find that she went with him on his work abroad, he was in Africa in 1898. CONT In 1901 he was priest at Congerston in Leicestershire. CONT CONT Much information has been uncovered of a legal nature in document form, which is copyright, which can be found at the Lincolnshire archives and some in my papers. CONT CONT Florence must have had a poor life after Len’s death. Finances were in a poor way. She seems to have spread herself around her sisters and relatives. Though no information can be found, except the odd photo, of time spent with her children. CONT However I did find her just before her tragic accident (Dec 11th 1934) at 30 St John’s Avenue, Hampstead in 1934. CONT This address seems to be some sort of lodging house. There are 12 residents in 1933. Surprisingly Joyce Mabel Warner and Richard Ottley Warner are there. In 1934 census Joyce and Richard are not there , but amongst the 14 residents was Florence. She was either going from or to this address to College Crescent on the 12 Dec 1934 when a Taxi knocked her down. She died the very next day in New End Hos pital from a fractured skull and other multiple injuries,(accidental death, PM). CONT Does anyone know where Joyce and Richard went after St John’s Avenue? It would be interesting to find out why she took residence here when Roehampton, Audrey and Alec’s place was not far away. She is buried at Ickenham the same graveyard where Madeleine Joy, Alec’s first wife, was buried. Why was she not buried near to her husband Leonard at Kirby Misperton in Yorkshire? CONT Florence’s will made in 1928 was witnessed by Clara Fenwick, Elizabeth Maw. A codicil, 11/3/1930 witnessed by L.T.Connell of Danby Wiske Rectory Northallerton and Edith H Paton, clergy house of rest ( Scarborough), widow. CONT Her estate, gross £7,140 net £7,068, duty paid. Probate Audrey E C Joy, J M Warner, Capt Geofrey Stephen, Carmac Weigall (nephew), renounced probate and codicil. CONT CONT CONT L.O.W: 1885 St Aug. college Canterbury CONT 1890- 1896 Society of the propagation of the Gospel Saints Missionary at Seoul in Corea. CONT 1897 –1878 Curate at St Saviours, Leeds CONT 1898- 1900 Incumbent 0f Mt Frere, Kaffraria, acting Chaplain to the forces to South Africa. Field force medals and clasps,1900-1901. CONT 1901-1912 Rector of Congerstone, diocese of Peterborough, (Patron Earl Howe. Gross income £180, net£170 plus house. Pop 200). Domestic Chaplain to Earl Howe. CONT 1913-1914 Kirby Misperton, Pickering. CONT CONT I have not been able to find any records of Leonard’s life at Congerstone, 1901-1912, there must be something somewhere. Further research would surely uncover some valuable information. This is a pity as it must have been a very important time in his life. CONT CONT 1901 census, Len and Mabel are at Hornblotton,Somerset, staying with Cousins Bush. Len aged 34 Flo 31 and also we see Audrey with them aged 6 months. 5 servants. CONT CONT It was at Kirby Misperton that things started to go wrong. Bouts of depression, not uncommon in the Warners, were believed to cause concern. His work at Kirby Misperton was in the main admired, but he found the anonymous criticism in the local press too much to bear. This was with regard to his work in improving two Chapels of ease. CONT Being very high church, Anglo-Catholic, which may not have gone down well or possibly unpopular in a country Parish. Len followed a very popular Canon Hutchings, 27 years in the Parish. CONT CONT I have after two or more years to curtail this research as I know that there is so much more to investigate . Anyone wishing to continue this research can find the relevant documents that I have accum ulated in the archives of York university family history department, York Archives, and An important quite new ‘Access to Archives’ at www.a2a.org.uk/-19k . It may take me some time to do this. In th e meantime I am sending the files referred to in this research to the immediate “heads” of this generation of Warner families in the hope that these notes will be made known and indeed made available to any interested parties, particularly your offspring who, hopefully, may become interested in this quite famous family. Famous and important enough to be included in Burke’s Peerage, the recognised ‘bible’ of Britain’s most important families. CONT CONT CONT Perhaps a few errors may have crept into this transcript for which I apologise. CONT CONT PLEASE PASS ON THE WARNER HISTORY TO YOUR FAMILIES AND FUTURE ASSOCIATES. AS THAT WAS THE MAIN PURPOSE OF UNDERTAKING THIS TASK AND TO ENSURE THE HISTORY LIVES ON. Chris Warner. 2008 CONT Record ID Number: MH:S8 User ID: 4AD7CC2D-86CB-4B22-BB21-184BF644CA4C UPD 08 DEC 2008 15:52:36 GMT+2 1.↑ Source: #S43 2.↑ Source: #S43 3.↑ Source: #S43 4.↑ Source: #S10 Data: Text: L.O.W: 1885 St Aug. college Canterbury CONT 1890- 1896 Society of the propagation of the Gospel Saints Missionary at Seoul in Corea. CONT 1897 –1878 Curate at St Saviours, Leeds CONT 1898- 1900 Incumbent 0f Mt Frere, Kaffraria, acting Chaplain to the forces to South Africa. Field force medals and clasps,1900-1901. CONT 1901-1912 Rector of Congerstone, diocese of Peterborough, (Patron Earl Howe. Gross income £180, net£170 plus house. Pop 200). Domestic Chaplain to Earl Howe. CONT 1913-1914 Kirby Misperton, Pickering. CONT 5.↑ Source: #S1

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Leonard Ottley Warner

Born 1867 in Snitterbymap

Son of Richard Edward Warner and Mary Jametta Hale (Yeoman) Warner

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Husband of Florence Mabel Elizabeth (Fenwick) Warner — married April 27, 1898 in Chapel Allerton Leedsmap

Father of Richard Ottley Warner

Died March 12, 1914 in Pickering, Yorkshire - North Ridingmap

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Contents [hide]•1 Biography •1.1 Birth •1.2 Death •1.3 Event •1.4 Burial •1.5 Physical Description •1.6 Education •1.7 Occupation •1.8 Title •1.9 Religion •1.10 Object •1.11 Note •1.12 Record ID Number •1.13 User ID •1.14 UPD

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 Biography 

This biography is a rough draft. It was auto-generated by a GEDCOM import and needs to be edited.

 Birth 

Birth: Date: 1867 Place: Snitterby User ID: DF6176A5-E3B2-4326-AB9A-485376DBE886 Record ID Number: MH:IF39

 Death 

Death: Date: 12 MAR 1914 Place: Pickering, Yorkshire - North Riding Cause: Suicide User ID: F19E7395-3329-4B8C-B8CF-3D2B0C4F1CA0 Record ID Number: MH:IF405

 Event 

Event: Type: Anecdote Date: BET 1892 AND 1893 Place: Mapo near Seoul Korea[1] Note: Wintered in Hired Cottage User ID: E8A587B6-EAB6-44DB-A71F-69AF3DE49429 Record ID Number: MH:IF14584 Event: Type: Mission Date: (FROM ABT 1892 TO ABT 1893) Place: Korea[2] Note: Explore River Systems as route of missionary work User ID: F83F4EFA-D4D2-4D84-ADB3-5EF70A14CAC0 Record ID Number: MH:IF14583 Event: Type: Mission Date: ABT NOV 1893 Place: Kapkotchi[3] Note: Living in Cottage important to Mission Station User ID: 2C2998FD-FD04-46D6-8A8C-DB0233C9CB1B Record ID Number: MH:IF14585 Event: Type: Military Enlistment Date: ABT 1899 Place: Boer War Note: Chaplain to the 11th Hussars User ID: 57D5636D-72D5-4CD0-8D97-84C9EC0A7C6C Record ID Number: MH:IF106111 Event: Type: Military Discharge Date: 29 OCT 1900 Place: Cape Town Note: Invalided home on the Ship Orcana User ID: B68A3AFD-1D83-4152-93B7-15B4EF1B689D Record ID Number: MH:IF106108 Event: Type: Military Service Date: 18 NOV 1900 Place: Plymouth Note: Orcana Arrived with LO aboard User ID: C153572F-954F-4610-BDE9-F48F91C028F2 Record ID Number: MH:IF106109 Event: Type: Anecdote Date: 1901 Place: Hornblotton Note: 1901 visiting Hornblotton Rev Bush who is a cousin. Leonard is Clerk in Holy Orders, curate in charge User ID: 1A91CD16-A117-43AB-B9E3-D7FF3D6E2904 Record ID Number: MH:IF90844 Event: Type: Will Proved Date: 28 MAY 1914 Place: London Object: Format: jpg Title: LOW will 28 May 1914 796 pound 9 shilling 8 pence File: D:\Heritage Stuff\WarnerFarina Family Tree 4th Feb 2012_Photos\P881_1239_227.jpg PHOTO_RIN MH:P882 FILESIZE 68881 Note: 796 pound 9 shilling 8 pence User ID: B56160EB-DAAD-4726-A467-6D56D9740807 Record ID Number: MH:IF153307

 Burial 

Burial: Place: Kirby Misterton User ID: 295FC190-1938-404B-A22E-05FC3E6E1344 Record ID Number: MH:IF2364

 Physical Description 

Physical Description: User ID: C7C3D51B-216C-484D-9710-E9C603A56019 Record ID Number: MH:IF406

 Education 

Education: Great Amwell Hertfordshire Date: 1881 Place: Haileybury Note: Noted as Boarder in 1881 census with head of huousehold "Frederick J Hall" User ID: 8329A254-4C3D-4FF8-8F36-C5451381F7B7 Record ID Number: MH:IF90842

 Occupation 

Occupation: Reverend User ID: E8B8A9F6-560A-41A5-914C-62BC526A84E5 Record ID Number: MH:IF40 Occupation: Resident Chaplain Date: BET 1898 AND 1900 Place: Mount Frere, Kaffraria User ID: 6140B293-0FC7-4237-B01F-5FB3BEDF760F Record ID Number: MH:IF106110

 Title 

Title: Reverend User ID: C8C53C93-9FFC-44A6-8179-976FDDDA89BD Record ID Number: MH:IF42

 Religion 

Religion: Church of England User ID: 20788F17-9A28-4345-B08F-B166492A409B Record ID Number: MH:IF41 45

 Object 

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Note: L.O.W: 1885 St Aug. college Canterbury 1890- 1896 Society of the propagation of the Gospel Saints Missionary at Seoul in Corea. 1897 –1878 Curate at St Saviours, Leeds 1898- 1900 Incumbent 0f Mt Frere, Kaffraria, acting Chaplain to the forces to South Africa. Field force medals and clasps,1900-1901. 1901-1912 Rector of Congerstone, diocese of Peterborough, (Patron Earl Howe. Gross income £180, net£170 plus house. Pop 200). Domestic Chaplain to Earl Howe. 1913-1914 Kirby Misperton, Pickering. [4] Note: LEONARD OTTLEY WARNER (REVD), 1867/1914, eldest son. Served in Boer War. Had sunstroke and would have died if his brother Duke (Marmaduke 35328), who was his batman, hadn't nursed him back to health . While in Quelimane saw Union Jack being hauled down by Portuguese and was almost shot trying to put it up again with tintacks. Became a missionary and went to Korea and China. Once, after a good m eal, he asked his cook, "Where's my puppy?" and the cook replied, "That was it”. In China he killed a sacred snake that attacked him in a temple; he was then followed all through China and was said to be lucky to escape back to England. There is also a story of his rescue of a Korean Prince, which was not popular with the regime at the time. ed Haileybury and St Augustine's College, Canterbury , he became vicar of various parishes in England including that of Kirby Misperton, and Congerstone - the living given him by Lord Howe of Gopsal Hall. His son Tony (353222) had letters from Lady How e inviting them to dine at Gopsal Hall while King Edward VII was staying there. Leonard married Florence Mabel Fenwick, daughter of Thomas Edward Fenwick of Leeds, a rich and distinguished Yorkshire civil engineer and a great friend of George Stephenson of 'Rocket' fame; he helped to lay out many of the first railway lines in the northeast. One of Thomas's daughters was named Georgina after Ste phenson, who was her godfather, and Tony had the silver spoon he gave her. When Thomas made objections about his daughter marrying a poor clergyman, Leonard said, "My ancestors were making the laws o f England while yours were ploughing the fields”, and got the girl! Their Marriage Settlement is in the Warner box at the Society of Genealogists in London, witnessed by Dids and Lilian Fenwick (Flor ence had marked her sister out as a bride for Dids but he wasn't having any!) Ordering a smart new surplice, Leonard asked that it should have 'bravery' around the neck (the old word for broderie, a kind of lace). On arrival it was found to have the letters B.R.A.V.E.R.Y sewn round the neck at the cost of a shilling each! While out shooting with his brother Dids, two shots jammed in Leonard’s b arrel and when Dids teased him, he put the gun to his brother’s right ear and pulled the trigger. Dids's eardrum was burst and Leonard was very upset (so was Dids!). L shot himself in his drawing ro om in front of his wife, suffering from depression thought to be caused by after-effects of sunstroke - more likely the 'Cromwell Curse'. Florence was run over by a taxi some years later after she ha d moved to London to live with her youngest son. She was badly injured. Her daughter Audrey then aged 17 decided she should not have an operation which would have left her as a vegetable. Leonard an d Florence - usually called Mabel - had 6 children: AUDREY, ASHTON (TONY), JOYCE, JOHN, MARY (MOLLY) and RICHARD[5]

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• WikiTree profile Warner-1319 created through the import of MAWarner_B1949_Anc.ged on Feb 26, 2012 by Wombat Allen. See the Changes page for the details of edits by Wombat and others. • Source: S1 Author: Rosie Davis Title: Warner Tree Master Copy Abbreviation: WTMC Record ID Number: MH:S1 User ID: F79E1037-AC12-4BB5-9C20-A86C41A6943C UPD 06 DEC 2008 12:45:48 GMT+2 Data Changed: Date: 26 FEB 2012 Time: 10:04:13 Data: Text: LEONARD OTTLEY WARNER (REVD), 1867/1914, eldest son. Served in Boer War. Had sunstroke and would have died if his brother Duke (Marmaduke 35328), who was his batman, hadn't nursed him back to health . While in Quelimane saw Union Jack being hauled down by Portuguese and was almost shot trying to put it up again with tintacks. Became a missionary and went to Korea and China. Once, after a good m eal, he asked his cook, "Where's my puppy?" and the cook replied, "That was it”. In China he killed a sacred snake that attacked him in a temple; he was then followed all through China and was said to be lucky to escape back to England. There is also a story of his rescue of a Korean Prince, which was not popular with the regime at the time. ed Haileybury and St Augustine's College, Canterbury , he became vicar of various parishes in England including that of Kirby Misperton, and Congerstone - the living given him by Lord Howe of Gopsal Hall. His son Tony (353222) had letters from Lady How e inviting them to dine at Gopsal Hall while King Edward VII was staying there. Leonard married Florence Mabel Fenwick, daughter of Thomas Edward Fenwick of Leeds, a rich and distinguished Yorkshire civil engineer and a great friend of George Stephenson of 'Rocket' fame; he helped to lay out many of the first railway lines in the northeast. One of Thomas's daughters was named Georgina after Ste phenson, who was her godfather, and Tony had the silver spoon he gave her. When Thomas made objections about his daughter marrying a poor clergyman, Leonard said, "My ancestors were making the laws o f England while yours were ploughing the fields”, and got the girl! Their Marriage Settlement is in the Warner box at the Society of Genealogists in London, witnessed by Dids and Lilian Fenwick (Flor ence had marked her sister out as a bride for Dids but he wasn't having any!) Ordering a smart new surplice, Leonard asked that it should have 'bravery' around the neck (the old word for broderie, a kind of lace). On arrival it was found to have the letters B.R.A.V.E.R.Y sewn round the neck at the cost of a shilling each! While out shooting with his brother Dids, two shots jammed in Leonard’s b arrel and when Dids teased him, he put the gun to his brother’s right ear and pulled the trigger. Dids's eardrum was burst and Leonard was very upset (so was Dids!). L shot himself in his drawing ro om in front of his wife, suffering from depression thought to be caused by after-effects of sunstroke - more likely the 'Cromwell Curse'. Florence was run over by a taxi some years later after she ha d moved to London to live with her youngest son. She was badly injured. Her daughter Audrey then aged 17 decided she should not have an operation which would have left her as a vegetable. Leonard an d Florence - usually called Mabel - had 6 children: AUDREY, ASHTON (TONY), JOYCE, JOHN, MARY (MOLLY) and RICHARD Quality or Certainty of Data: 3 • Source: S10 Author: Chris Warner Title: Leonard Ottley Farina Text: Leonard Ottley Warner. CONT b.1867 d.1914 CONT CONT In this research we first come across him in the 1871 census at the Snitterby Rectory with his Father Richard Edward Warner (34) and his mother Mary (26) . Also at this abode are his brothers and sist ers; Constance E.C (5)*, Mary C (2), Basil H (2mts) , and Grandmother Emma B , widow (55) years . There are 6 servants living in. CONT While in Snitterby let us look in the church yard; monumental inscriptions here for Elizabeth Pare Warner, sister of Richard Warner died 23rd April 1863 age 78. Also Richard Edward Warner, Captain in Her Majesty’s 5th Regiment of foot, died 24th April 1863, age 81, a day after his sister. CONT CONT Nearby at Stoke Rochford, (South Stoke), Church, Sts Mary and Andrew, “In memory of Richard Edward Warner Prebendary of Lincoln for 15 years, Rector of this Parish born November 28th 1836, entered in to rest May 3rd 1910. Also of Mary Jametta Hale his wife, who died August 31 1933.” CONT CONT *The first child baptized in the New Church. CONT Burials: R.E.Warner 6th May 1910 age 73. CONT M.J.H.Warner 5th September 1933 age 88. CONT CONT 1858 at Snitterby Rectory, Kirton Lindsey.(Oxford B.A.(hon) 4th class Law etc.) CONT 1859 Curate of Finedon,Northants CONT 1860 M.A. Deacon Manchester; Priest at Peterborough; Rector of Snitterby, 1862 (patron Crown), gross income £302,net £252 and house. CONT 1887-1890 Prebendary(hon. Canon) of Dunholme, Lincs Cathedral . CONT 1889-1994 Vicar of Gainsborough and Prebendery of Corringham at Lincoln Cathedral and Dean of Corringham. CONT He married his first wife, Mary Sarah Hudson in 1846. We then go forward to 1861 census where he is lodging at Poplar Farm Finedon, Northamptonshire, the home of farmer John Hollis and his wife Ann. CONT 1871 census he is at The Rectory Snitterby with wife Mary and his four children and Emma his mother also seven servants. CONT 1881 census he is at The Rectory, Snitterby with his wife Mary and seven children and 4 servants. This census does not show Emma Bridget or Leonard, who is now at Haileybury school. The family has gro wn in the meantime, the additions are: Richard Cromwell Warner (9), Laurence Dundance Warner (7),Wynyard Alexander Warner (5) Marmaduke Warner (3), and 4 servants. CONT CONT 1895 Stoke Rectory, Grantham (patron Bishop of Lincoln). Prebendery of Bedford Magna in Lincoln Cathedral. CONT CONT R.E.W.’s estate gross value £2,567. CONT CONT Leonard Ottley Warner, we found him in the 1881 census at Haileybury school age 14. It is not until much later we find him at St Saviour’s Curch in Leeds, a VERY high Church. His marriage to Florence Mabel Fenwick is well recorded and we can pick her up later at Kirby Misperton in Yorkshire. We are awaiting information on Leonard’s stay at Congerstone, So far no details are known to me about this era. However his experience of the teachings at St Saviour’s was such that he went to do missionary work in particular Corea, as it was spelt in those days. He was there with Bishop Corfe, it is repo rted that “he was there a shortish time, retired in 1896 not before he had done some vigorous pioneering work, of which the mission has since reaped the fruits”. (see Project Canterbury, the Church in Corea by the Rt Rev Mark Napier, Trollope,DD). CONT A marriage settlement between L.O.W and F.M.E.Fenwick was agreed, we are told when he was back at St Saviour’s, “about to reside in S. Africa”. (Marriage settlement arranged; life assurance policy wit h the University L.A. Society, £1000). According to records the marriage was April 1898, he 31 she 28. In the 1901 census Leonard and Mabel are found staying with the cousins Bush at Hornblotton in So mersetshire , with their first child Audrey.E.C. 6 months old. 5 servants on record at this address. CONT Not much more information is available to us until his life at Kirby Misperton where life was not very good to him. He was having “Bouts of depression about every 2 years”, not uncommon in some Warner s. CONT It was while at Kirby Misperton that his work relating to the undertaking of reconstruction of Chapels of Ease was criticised in the local press by ‘anonymous’ reports, which is suggested was partly r esponsible for his final decision to end his life. (see the comments of the Rev Jonathan Cooper in the appendix). CONT Leonard was very high church , in fact Anglo-Catholic, and this may not have been popular in the main to a country Parish. He had followed a very popular and long serving Canon Hutchings, 27 years in this Parish. You will note the archive notes that Leonard was interested in and followed these high Church ways. CONT His instructions for his funeral and burial reflect the standards he hoped to reach. CONT The papers found in the Public Records make for sad reading and so do the private correspondence, some of this is in the appendix. It should be asked how and why did he retain his army revolver, which was the ultimate weapon to put his worries to an end. He must have had this gun well concealed as his wife had no idea that it existed. If only he could have lived to see his extensive and wonderfull family grow up and be so successful. If only we could find the final letter he wrote on his death bed, he regained consciousness before he died, we would know more about his last days. We do not know much about his final days and I know for certain that not all his children knew the story of his death until years after. CONT These are the ages of the children of L.O.W. and his wife F.M.W.when their Father and Mother died: CONT Child L.O.W. death F.M.W. death CONT Audrey 14 34 CONT Tony 13 33 CONT Joyce 9 29 CONT John 8 28 CONT Molly 5 25 CONT Richard 3 23 CONT Where were the children when their Father died, at home ? CONT Audrey may have been at school at this time, no information is known to this compiler. The report in the Rosie Tree suggests that she looked after her 5 brothers and sisters from the age of 14, why an d where was her mother at this time ? CONT Tony may have just been at Haileybury school. The other children would have been at home when their father died. CONT My father Tony was in the Argentine at the time of death of his Mother and did not return to England until 1937. What made him not return as soon as he heard of his Mother’s death ? Did he make a brie f return, was he told? After Leonard died the correspondence with solicitors indicate that the legal and financial aspects of the union were not quite as they should be. Mabel at this time must have b een in terrible conflict with all the problems of Leonard’s sudden demise. From the correspondence you will gather that things were not good. She went visiting her relatives a lot, but where were all her family all this time , who were looking after them ? CONT Something which I think important happened to me when I was once in the office of my Dad and that of my uncle John, they shared the same office.Dad had just returned from visiting a customer, Russell’ s of Kirby Moorside ,the nearest town to Kirby Misperton,where Leonard was buried. The coversation which is clearly imprinted on my mind, went like this; John Warner to Tony, “Well did you find out an ything?” Tony to John, “Yes it is true”. Why this struck me as strange, I can only imagine that as it could not have any bearing of the customers business it could only refer to a personal situation . Nothing further was said in my presence on this .I wonder if the children knew the truth of the Father’s demise, at the time of death. CONT In a letter to Mabel’s solicitors, written by her from ‘Sandsend’, a small sea side village on the East coast of Yorkshire MUCH used for holidays by the family, “I am staying here (Meadowfields) at th e present until things begin to settle down, then I am thinking of Bedford on account of education”. I do not understand this remark, Can anyone throw any light on this, and I refer to Bedford in this context. CONT By the way I have had it confirmed on good authority, by the present vicar for Kirby Misperton, Johnathan Cooper, that L.O.W, against popular belief, was buried in ‘consecrated’ ground CONT I came across his wife Mabel/Florence many years later, just before her death, in London. CONT But before going further into this particular period of her life, let us have a look at her parents. Her Father Thomas Fenwick, born 1824, married his first wife Mary Sarah Hudson, daughter of an innk eeper, in Jarrow 1846. Thomas was described as a surveyor and his father was Richard Fenwick auctioneer. CONT We then find him, Thomas, in an 1861 census in Leeds staying at the White Horse Hotel on Boar Lane aged 37, civil engineer and land agent. CONT His family with his first wife living in Tynemouth with 7 children and one servant. CONT In Thomas’ will, 1902, there are 2 further children. His wife, Mary, died Dec 1862. The 1861 census, Tynemouth, shows the following children; Mary E 14, Charles R 12, Jane E 10, Thomas E J 8, Alice M 6, Emma 3, Amy 1 . However Mary E , Jane E and Emma do not appear in Thomas’ will. CONT Thomas’ 2nd marriage was to Elizabeth Heath Mary Martin age 32, in August 1868. Florence Mabel Elizabeth was their 1st child , born in Leeds. She had a younger sister, Lilian and brother Hubert M. The ir ages at the 1881 census were, 11, 10 and 7, all born in Leeds and living at High Road, Allerton Hill, Leeds. It is interesting to know that Elizabeth Heath Mary Martin’s father was a civil engineer . Thomas,the father, had at least 10 children, one of which was Thomas E J Fenwick who was in the firm of Martin and Fenwick, civil engineers and surveyors of Park Row Leeds, with a home at Scalby nea r Scarborough . CONT Thomas and Elizabeth were married at the the church of Chapel Allerton by Charles Bailey vicar of Morton in Cleveland. Thomas born 1824 in Morpeth died in 1905. Probate to Elizabeth H M Fenwick, Char les Richard Fenwick,civil engineer and Arthur Currer Briggs, colliery proprietor. Effects £55,776. CONT Charles Richard Fenwick born 1849. CONT Thomas Edward John Fenwick born 1853. CONT Elizabeth Heath Mary Martin, Thomas’s second wife was the daughter of Samuel Dickinson and Elizabeth Martin were married in Leeds 6th April 1836. CONT The 1861 census finds Florence,s father Thomas residing at the White Horse Hotel, Boar lane, Leeds. Listed as a visitor, married aged 37, civil engineer and Land agent, born at Morpeth, Northumberland . CONT His family at Norfolk street, Tynemouth: CONT Name Status Married Age Occupation Place of Birth CONT Mary S Fenwick head married 36 Surveyour’s wife N.Shields. CONT Mary E.F., daughter 14 scholar North Shields CONT Charles R.F son 12 “ “ CONT Jane E,F daughter 10 “ “ CONT Thomas E J F son 8 “ “ CONT *Alice M daughter 6 “ “ CONT Emma F daughter 3 “ “ CONT Amy F daughter 1 “ “ CONT Of these children the only ones NOT noted in Thomas’ will are Mary E , Jane E, and Emma. CONT *Who is Alice Crowther CONT Thomas’ wife died in August 1862. CONT The 1881 census shows Thomas with his 2nd wife Elizabeth Heath Mary (Martin), who he married in August 1868. He is shown with two children of his previous marriage plus three from this marriage. CONT CONT Name Status Married Age Occupation CONT Thomas F head married 57 civil engineer CONT Elizabeth H M wife 45 CONT Thomas E J son 28 assistant engineer CONT Amy E daughter 21 CONT Florence M E daughter 11 CONT Lilian H* daughter 10 CONT Hubert M son 7 CONT *known as Billy CONT Also in the household are 4 servants. CONT CONT Charles, Thomas’ son, was a widower in 1901. His first wife was Margaret Middleton of Leeds. He is shown in the 1901 census living in the village of Preston, Preston House, Tynemouth, along with his 2 8 year old servant Agnes Pa

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Leonard Ottley Warner's Timeline

1867
1867
Swinderby, Lincoln, England
1900
September 17, 1900
Age 33
Leeds, West Yorkshire, England, United Kingdom
1901
1901
Age 34
1905
1905
Age 38
1906
1906
Age 39
1909
1909
Age 42
Leeds, York, England
1911
May 24, 1911
Age 44
Congerstone, Leicestershire, England
1914
January 1914
Age 47
Pickering, Yorkshire, England
1914
Age 47
Kirby Misperton, North Yorkshire, England, United Kingdom