Ludwig Rene Roth

Ludwig ROTH: b. 10 Jan 1890, München - d. March 1968, New York

Information courtesy of various sources, including the following:

This especially valuable information:

Gedenkbuch Link Intern: Gedenkbuch der Münchener Juden

https://gedenkbuch.muenchen.de/index.php?id=gedenkbuch_link&gid=300

Johanna Roth

Sekretärin, Kindergärtnerin, geboren am 07.04.1891 in München, ledig, deportiert am 20.11.1941 aus München nach Kaunas, ermordet am 25.11.1941 in Kaunas (05. Kislev 5702).

Eltern

Moritz (Moses) Roth, Mehlhändler u. Mühlenbesitzer, Anna Roth, geb. Stiefel

Geschwister

Bruno, geboren am 01.06.1896, in München

Ludwig

Adressen in München

Schneckenburgerstraße 42/III , bei den Eltern (seit 21.08.1934)

- Ebenhausen - (seit 02.08.1936)

Schneckenburgerstraße 42/III (seit 30.11.1937)

Kaiser-Ludwigs-Platz 1/0 (seit 18.09.1939)

Antonienstraße 7 - IKG Kinderheim (seit 21.05.1941)

Permalink für diesen Datenbankeintrag

https://gedenkbuch.muenchen.de/index.php?id=gedenkbuch_link&gid=300

Another valuable and touching source here in this account written by niece Christine ROTH-SCHURTMAN:

A Student's Fate, 1933-1945

German Jews and Migration to the United States, 1933–1945 - Google Books

https://books.google.de/books?id=AypeEAAAQBAJ&pg=PA35&lpg=PA35&dq=b...

N.B. Most sources state that Rosa was married three times and that her daughter Lisl was fathered by Ludwig ROTH.

In fact, though there is clear evidence that Rosa was first married to the pianist Edmund HERTZ and then later to the journalist Karl SINGER, there is no indication that she was ever married to her acting colleague Ludwig ROTH.

Indeed, at the time of Elisabeth "Lisl" VALETTI's birth on 14 Nov 1914, Berlin, Rosa was clearly married to Karl SINGER. As far as can be ascertained, this couple remained together until Rosa's death in December 1937.

Not only are there numerous mentions of them e.g. holidaying together as husband & wife - with "daughter" on sevral occasions but in the few obituaries dedicated to Rosa VALETTI, it is said that she was married to Karl SINGER.

In Adolph LEHMANN's Wien address book for 1937, Rosa & Karl are listed at the same address. (Lisl isn't listed - presumably living with them in same home?):

Elisabeth "Lisl" stage-surname VALETTI like her mother is to be found in various mentions under the surname of SINGER or SINGER-VALETTI. On her emigration records to the USA she is named SINGER/VALETTI - never ROTH.

SO one wonders where this came about that Ludwig ROTH was attributed fatherhood for Lisl VALETTI ... various possibillities include:

- a misunderstanding on the part of biographers.

- a claim made by Lisl at a later date - for some reason ...

- Lisl could well have been the product of an extra-marital affair between Rosa VALETTI-SINGER & Ludwig ROTH

- is it conceivable that Karl SINGER, desiring to have a child but unable to father one himself, even encouraged this ...?

Until further facts may be found this remains a mystery ...

And also -

cf. advertisement for a stage production of "Grössenwahn" in which this couple both featured:

ANNO, Neues Wiener Journal, 1921-05-21, Seite 11

https://anno.onb.ac.at/cgi-content/anno?aid=nwj&datum=19210521&seit...

cf. eg. US naturalisation papers of (presumably?) second wife Eva ROSENBERG.

And also cf.

https://www.deutsche-biographie.de/sfz125716.html#ndbcontent_sfz135919

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Zitierweise

Lebensdaten1890 – 1968 GeburtsortMünchen SterbeortNew York, NY Beruf/FunktionSchauspieler Konfession- NormdatenGND: 1167799895 | OGND | VIAF: 11153833109564330790 Namensvarianten Roth, Ludwig
René, Ludwig
Roth-René, Ludwig

NB. further link to apparently "ex-wife" Rosa VALETTI:

Verknüpfungen auf die Person andernorts

Aus dem Register von NDB/ADB

NDB 26 (2016), S. 705* (Valetti (eigentlich Vallentin, verheiratete Roth beziehungsweise Singer), Rosa) 

And also cf.

New York passenger listing:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33S7-95NZ-2NC?i=426&cc=...

Ludwig Roth Male 49 1939 New York, New York, United States 1890 Germany Immigration Westernland

b. Munich, profession "actor"

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Departure: "sister" J. ROTH, 42 Schneckenburgenstr., München

Arrival: "Cousin" George OPPENHEIMER, 140 South Burlingame Drive, Brentwood Park, Calif.

1940 New York Census:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-L9MB-MVV1?i=41&per...

Ludwig Roth Male 50 Single White Head Vienna, Austria 1890 Germany B 21 005458614

No profession given.

US naturalisation:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QSQ-G9HD-RYTB?i=53&cc=...

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https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-89HD-R1H3?i=54&cc=...

Includes details:

- Ludwig René ROTH

- b. 10.01.1890, Munich, profession "dyer"

- wife Eva, b. 16.01.1911, Berlin, m. 06.11.1943, New York

Basic death data:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JKPW-C2S

Name Ludwig Roth
Staat New York
Wohnort New York
Letzter Wohnort Queens, New York
Postleitzahl des früheren Aufenthalts 11375
Alter 78
Geburtsdatum 10 Jan 1890
Sterbedatum Mar 1968