Mary Royce (Unknown)
|Also Known As:||"Not Mary Sims", "Not Elizabeth wife of Robert Roice of Boston"|
|Death:||Died in Wallingford, New Haven, Connecticut|
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About Mary Royce
There is a lot of controversy about the mother of Ensign Nathaniel Royce, wife of Robert Royce. One thing is certain -- her parents are unknown. There were two Robert Royces, one in Boston and one in Connecticut and their families have been mixed up. See http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/d/o/b/Michael-E-Dobson/GENE64-0001.html for references and a discussion.
The wife of Robert Royce of Connecticut was Mary -------, that is, her last name was unknown. Her given name was not Elizabeth.
Robert Royce was born circa 1606 in Martok, Somersetshire, England, and died after 22 September 1676 in New London, New London, Connecticut. He married Mary ---- circa 1630 in England. She was born circa 1609 in England, and died 14 July 1696 in Wallingford, New Haven, Connecticut.
Why Mary, wife of Robert Royce of Connecticut is speculatively connected with the Simms family
There is a marriage record for Mary Simms and Robert Royce. The date and the location would fit with this being the marriage of Robert Royce of Connecticut and Mary. From this hypothesis, not a bad one but not proven conclusively, sprang countless family trees on the Internet asserting that Mary was Mary Simms.
Why Robert Royce of Connecticut and Robert Roice (Roise, Roys) of Boston were confused
Savage long ago asserted that Robert Roice of Boston must be the same as Robert Royce of Connecticut and since that time, family trees have proliferated that have merged the spouses and the children of the two men. There is plenty of counterevidence however. First, their wives did not have the same names. Both wives outlived their husbands, and Elizabeth Roice of Boston re-married Michael Tearn and died in Boston eventually whereas Mary Royce did not remarry and died in Connecticut. Second, there are wills for each family that are clearly separate, naming separate heirs.
The two issues are that it appears that a Patience is mentioned in Robert Royce of Connecticut's will and that the Nathaniel of Boston left no trace. I have chosen to follow The Great Migration Begins view of these two families as being separate families since the evidence support this more than the opposite.
Their children were:
- Jonathan, b. Bet. 1631 - 1635, Martock, Sommersetshire, England; d. July 1690, Norwich, New London, Connecticut.
- Sarah, b. Bet. 1633 - 1634, Epswick, England or Martok, Somerset, England; d. 01 May 1711, Norwich, New London, Connecticut.
- Nehemiah, b. Abt. 1636, Long Sutton, Somerset, England; d. 01 November 1706, Wallingford, New Haven, Connecticut.
- Ensign Samuel Royce, b. 01 November 1644, Prob New London, New London, Connecticut; d. Bef. 24 December 1711, Wallingford, New Haven, Connecticut.
- Ruth, b. 07 December 1645, Wallingford, New Haven, Connecticut; d. May 1695, Wallingford, New Haven, Connecticut.
- Ensign Nathaniel Royce, b. 24 April 1647, Wallingford, New Haven, Connecticut; d. 08 February 1726/27, Wallingford, New Haven, Connecticut.
- Isaac, b. Abt. 1648, Milford, New Haven, Connecticut; d. Abt. 1681, Wallingford, New Haven, Connecticut.
Others include additional children:
- Robert, born 1625
- Margaret, born 1626
- Mary, born 1629
Ancestor of US President Millard Fillmore.
!A marriage to Mary Sims is disproven in Gary Boyd Roberts, English Origins of New England Families, Second Series, volume 3, pp. 42-45.
Immigrated from Martock, Somerset.
!Al Dawson, 22 Apr 2000, <Microfish7@aol.com> Robert Royce. Born ca 1603. Robert was baptized in Martock, Somersetshire, Eng. on 9 Jun 1603. Source: 7. Joseph Savage, Genealogical Dictionary of the First Settlers of New England, Originally published 1860. 8. Dorothy C Burt, "Ancestors of David Walden Burt," http://www.familytreemaker.com/user/b/u/r/Dorothy-C-Burt, Feb.1998.
Robert came from England in the Francis; settled at Stratford, CT, in1644/48; at New London, 1660; Member of City Council [selectman?].
![see quote from GMB below, following paragraph is for a differentperson] Robert was a freeman at Boston 1 Apr 1634, one of the disarmed1637 as a supporter of Mrs. Hutchinson in her revelations, or ofWheelwright in his opinions.
He removed before 1657 to New London, perhaps in 1650 was of Stratford,but constable in 1660and in 1661 representative for New London where helived in good repute.
![Disproven - On 4 Jun 1634 Robert married Mary Elizabeth Sims, daughterof JohnSims (ca 1579-) & Sarah Baker (1587-), in Martock, Somerset,Eng.13 Born ca 1609.5 Mary Elizabeth was baptized in England ca 1615.5Mary Elizabeth died on 4 Jul 1697 in New London, CT. Sims, SIimms, orSymmes.]
!Great Migration Begins: Savage claimed that Robert Roice of Boston was identical with a man ofthe samename who appeared in Connecticut some years later, but since thelatter had wife Mary, and the only known wife of the Boston man wasElizabeth, who outlived him, this cannot be true [NEHGR 122:274-77 andthe sources cited there; GoodwinAnc 1:295]
Mary Royce's Timeline
June 12, 1625
Long Sutton, Somerset, England, (Present UK)
Martock, Somerset, England
Martock, Somerset, England
Martok, Somerset, England
Long Sutton, Somerset, England
March 18, 1637
Gloucester, Essex, Massachusetts
Millford, New Haven, Connecticut
March 24, 1639
Wallingford, New Haven, Connecticut, United States