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Mary Vann (unknown)

Also Known As: "Barnes"
Birthdate:
Birthplace: Chowan County, Province of North Carolina
Death: between 1757 and 1759 (34-45)
96 District, South Carolina
Immediate Family:

Daughter of 1st husband of Mary Barnes and Mary Barnes
Wife of Edward “Ned” Vann, Sr.
Mother of Joseph Vann, "The Interpreter"; William Vann; Edward "Ned" Vann, Jr.,; Jenny King; Avery Vann, Sr. and 4 others
Sister of Sarah Thompson; Anna Carter and Sebielia “Sibby” Odom
Half sister of Rachel Hamilton; Thomas Barnes; Lydia Brady and Prudence Barnes

Managed by: Timothy Patrick Corbett
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About Mary Vann



Not the same as Mary Vann


Mary (unknown)

  • Born about 1718 in North Carolina
  • Died between 1757 - 1759
  • Daughter of an unknown man and Mary (Unknown) Barnes
  • Step daughter of Richard Barnes
  • Wife of Edward Vann — married before 1740 in North Carolina

Mary was known as Mary Barnes, the surname of her mother’s husband.


Origins

Mary’s mother was Mary (seen as Mary Odom) (b. abt 1692 - d. bef Jan 1759). That Mary married first to an unknown man, and secondly to Richard Barnes (b abt 1659 - d. 1728). Her children, per estate record, were:

With her first husband, whose name we do not know:

  • Mary (m Edward Vann) (this profile)
  • Ann (m Alexander Carter)
  • Sibyl (m Abraham Odom)
  • Sarah (m John Thompson)

With Richard Barnes:

  • Thomas
  • Rachel
  • Lydia
  • Prudence

Richard Barnes had died in 1728 and most likely left a will that left out his step daughters, Mary, Ann, Sibil, and Sarah.

Family

From https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Vann-1190

Mary and Edward Vann married about 1736. She was dead between 1757, when she signed a deed, and 1759, when Edward Vann was named in her parents’ estate division.

Many researchers claim that Mary died and he then married a woman named Charity (maiden name unknown). There is no proof of a second wife.

Edward and Mary Barnes left Bertie, North Carolina in 1757 and acquired land in South Carolina the next year in 1758.

In 1758, when Edward acquired the patent in South Carolina for 200 acres, the condition to receive the land patent was that the patentee could received 50 acres for each member of his family. The four individuals needed to qualify to patent 200 acres would have been: Edward, his wife, Clement age 12, and Avery, age about 10. His older sons applied for patents on their own, even though these cannot be found. His daughter Edith married A. A. Coody about this time. Lastly, daughter Susannah could have been born soon after the date of the patent.[2]

23 July 1757 - Edward Vann & Wife Mary to John Lakey for 13 pds. 15 sh. For 200 acres on the NWS of Easternmost Swamp adj. John Howell, William Coleman, Thomas Jackson, Alexander Ford, James Graves. Wit. Jas. Butterton, Hardy Hunter. July Court 1757. [3]

No death or estate records have been located for Edward Vann. One site[7] states he died in March 1773, while others show his death date as shortly after 1758.[8]


From https://pioneersalongsoutherntrails.blogspot.com/2017/03/john-vann-...

(The following record is often assigned to Edward Vann to show the name of his second wife. The date places this well outside Edward’s expected time to be married and have a small child.

Georgia Record[45]

Charity Vann, August 11, 1782, A "distressed refugee" with 1 child.”)


Children

Extracted from “Edward Vann” (By jerry l. clark December 19, 2001) < genealogy.com >

  1. Joseph Vann [so-called "John Joseph"] m. Wah-li Vann; b. ca. 1737; d. 1800.
  2. Edward ( "Ned") Vann II m. Mary King; b. ca. 1740; d. 1833 Horn's Creek, Edgefield Co., SC. [11/1/1818 an old man named Ned Vann visited Spring Place. He was a "blood brother of the father of James Vann and the mother of Joseph Crutchfield"]
  3. Jenny Vann; b. ca. 1742; d. ca.1820. (Clement Vann visited Spring Place with his sister Jenny.)
  4. James Vann; b. ca. 1744; d. ca. 1820 Wilkes Co, GA
  5. Clement Vann m. Wah-li Vann; b. 4/3/1746; d.ca. 1832. (He came into the Cherokee Nation ca. 1779.)
  6. Thomas Vann m. Anne [said to be a Cherokee woman]; b. ca. 1747; d. ca. 1839 Madison Co, Alabama
  7. Edith Vann m. Arthur Archibald Coody; (b.1742; d. 1782 Horn's Creek, Abbeville District, SC); b. ca. 1752; d. 1805 Wilkes Co, GA. [Edward Vann was one of the adminstrators of A. A. Coody's will; another was Littlejohn Perdue, who may have married a Coody daughter; a young man named Greenberry Perdue, whose mother was named Coody, visited Spring Place with his relative Joseph Crutchfield (i.e. 2nd cousin)]
  8. Avery Vann, Sr.; b. ca. 1755; d. ca. 1810. [Avery Vann, "a younger brother of Clement Vann" visited Spring Place.It was probably his son, Avery Vann, Jr.(contemporary in age with James Vann) who married Peggy McSwain (granddaughter of Indian trader John Downing). They were the progenitors of a large Cherokee family (the humorist Will Rogers descends from this line).
  9. Susannah Vann m.(ca.1786) John Crutchfield (b. ca. 1755; d. ca. 1810, Wilkes Co,GA); b. ca. 1760; d. ca. 1800 Wilkes Co, Georgia

Origin notes

Mary’s widowed husband, Edward VANN, was listed in the 1759 estate division of Richard BARNES and Mary BARNS (note: Mona TAYLOR of Harker Heights, TX, states that this Mary was the daughter of Moses ODUM). Richard and Mary BARNS evidently had several children among whom his estate was divided. One of these children was a Mary BARNES, who evidently married and had several children. She was deceased at the time of the estate division, so her portion was divided among her children. One of her daughters, Mary, had married an Edward VANN by 1759 and another daughter, Sybil, had married Abraham ODUM. [1]


Notes

The following record shows a child born to a Mary Vann who was raised by John Williams. (A different Mary Vann.)

Vestry minutes of St. Paul's Parish, Chowan County (Fouts, 1983) from the research of (Koestler, n.d.). 1738 Vestry minutes – 22 July 1738 — John Williams proposed to this Vestry to take and keep of the Parish, a Child born of ye body of one Mary Vann Single woman of this county & prish, she Being Dead, for the consideration of the Sum of fifteen pounds — him by the prish and have the Child bound to him till it Cums of age– it is Considered and ordered.

Chowan County, North Carolina Cross Index to Deeds - Grantees 1696-1878 Vol B Lease/Release to Joseph Vann from Wm Hughes 1735 Deed to William Vann from Joseph Vann 1744

Bertie County Records, p P 123 Book E p 121. John Alston of Chowan Precinct to Thomas Piland Feb 18, 1736. 40 pds. for 124 acres on SES Ahoskey Swamp by patent dated April 1, 1723 to George Powell. Conveyed by deed to Alston August 11, 1726. Wit: Henry Baker, Joseph Vann, Mary Norris. May Court 1737.


References

  1. http://www.southern-style.com/powhatan_vann.htm
  2. Reference: Ancestry Genealogy - SmartCopy: Jun 11 2022, 14:37:31 UTC
  3. https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Unknown-445436 cites
    1. Probate Records in Chowan County, North Carolina Bound Miscellaneous Papers 1694-1799; BARNES, Richard and Mary; Jan 1759; Order to divide the estate of Richard BARNES and Mary BARNES: Estate of Richard BARNES to be divided between "Thomas BARNES and Andrew HAMILTON who married Rachael (the sister of the said Thomas BARNS), Joseph BRADDY who married Lydia (another sister) ... & Prudence BARNES (an unmarried sister of the said Thomas BARNES) in equal shares"; The estate of Mary BARNES to be divided between "the said Thomas BARNS, Andrew HAMILTON, Joseph BRADDY, Prudence BARNES, Edward VANN (who married Mary, the daughter of Mary BARNES), Alexander CARTER (who married Ann, another daughter), Abraham ODAM (who married Sybil, another daughter) & John THOMPSON (who intermarried with Sarah, another daughter of said Mary BARNS")
    2. Will index at Archives; Will itself has never been found, only the listing in an index at the Archives. Quite possibly, the will was destroyed when the early records of Hereford County were burned.
    3. Chowan, North Carolina estate papers
    4. http://lockhart1957.tripod.com/index-GEN.html by Dick Fox
  4. “Descendants of John Vann I” Home User Trees James-R-Hicks-VA < link (may have errors)
  5. https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Vann-1190 cites
    1. Probate Records of Chowan County, North Carolina Bound Miscellaneous Papers 1694-1799.
    2. https://pioneersalongsoutherntrails.blogspot.com/2017/03/john-vann-...
    3. Bell, M. B., 1963. Colonial Bertie County NC Deed Books A-H 1720-1757. Greenville, SC: Southern Historical Press, p. 255. Source: Bertie County, North Carolina Deed Book H, p 440
    4. 1758/Apr/04 Laid out unto Edw’d Vann, a track of land containing 200 acres, situate in Granville County bound by Savannah River on the SW of John Vann’s plantation on the SE. (Edward's land was later identified in a patent of his neighbor, William MacGregor).
    5. South Carolina Dept of Archives and History, series#S213184; v8; p273; item#01 on 1758/09/18 for Edward Vanne, plat for 200 acres in Granville County; names indexed ... Gaston, John; Leigh, Egerton; Vanne, Edward; Vanne, John.
    6. https://www.genealogy.com/forum/surnames/topics/vann/1920/
    7. https://pioneersalongsoutherntrails.blogspot.com/2017/03/john-vann-...
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Mary Vann's Timeline

1718
1718
Chowan County, Province of North Carolina
1735
1735
Fishing Creek, now Gates, Was Edgefield Co split from Chowan Co., North Carolina
1736
1736
Ninety Six, Greenwood County, South Carolina, United States
1736
1738
1738
Ahoskie, Hertford County, NC, United States
1746
March 5, 1746
Cherokee Nation East or, Chowan, North Carolina
1747
1747
Chowan Co. NC.
1749
1749
1750
1750
Chowan or Granville, North Carolina, United States