Nicholas Day (Dee)

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Sir Nicholas Day (Dee)

Birthdate: (75)
Birthplace: Pembrokeshire, Wales, United Kingdom
Death: circa 1505 (71-79)
Monmouthshire, Wales, United Kingdom
Immediate Family:

Son of John Dee and Margaret verch Gruffudd
Husband of Margaret A Day
Father of Richard Day of Worfield

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About Nicholas Day (Dee)

http://www.ancientwalesstudies.org/id70.html

  • Reference: WikiTree Genealogy - SmartCopy: Sep 22 2016, 2:09:41 UTC
  • Nicholas is the first considered to take the name Day - (anglicized/english from Dee)

https://www.genealogieonline.nl/en/holloway-family-tree/P12023.php

These were very tumultuous times in Wales - Wales was slowly being invaded by the King and his Marcher Lords. Peasants as well as Knights came to Wales in large numbers to serve these various marcher Lords. see this information: http://www.britainexpress.com/wales/history/marchers.htm

There was also the Welsh Rebellion of 1400- to understand more about the times also read about Owain Glyndwr - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Owain_Glynd%C5%B5r

then The Wars of the Roses from 1455 to 1487 - House of Lancaster vs House of York. And also the Rise of the Tudor Dynasty ( Owain ap Maredudd ap Tudur was of Welsh descent) Owen Tudor secretly marries Queen Katherine after her husband King Henry V dies in 1422. 

also Welsh names were becoming anglicised - see below from a BBC article on Welsh naming:

( http://www.bbc.co.uk/wales/history/sites/themes/society/family_03_welshnaming.shtml ) ...
The way in which official records of births, marriages and deaths were kept also complicates the issue. The Act of Union (1536) stated that all official documentation in Wales was to be carried out in the English language. This meant that Welsh names were registered in an anglicised form. The process of civil registration in 1837 completed the long transition to fixed surnames. The traffic was not all one-way, though. The names of Welshmen who migrated to England were often transposed into English, so Ddu became Dee and Caradog became Craddock.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 

A point of note here - in many other Day Family lineages it is shown that Deikws Ddu 1375 is the father of Morgan Dee 1395 ? In 1398 Deikws served as a captain under Henry Bolingbroke Duke of Lancaster (Henry IV). There was a falling out of Henry and Lord Mowbray who was one of the Marcher Lords - King Richard was upset over all this and banished Mowbray for life and Henry for 10 years - ?as a result Deikws Ddu was thereafter indicted as a felon and traitor and his lands forfeited. ?(this info is also in the book : Jesus of Arithmathea, the man who buried Jesus) There is record of Deikws Ddu marrying Gwen verch Ieuan in 1398 and they have 5 children. Anghard, Tanw, Einion , Gruffudd and Rhys )

also in this book - Welsh Founders of Pensylvania - see the note at the bottom of page 78 see this link https://books.google.ca/books?id=aepTGZpT1FMC&pg=RA1-PA78&lpg=RA1-PA78&dq=deikws+ddu&source=bl&ots=BHYrXuEGiK&sig=f6_79SBjlIxq2cypTBa7oRGp9vU&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwimj5iNurLYAhUl_IMKHUuXBn0Q6AEILzAC#v=onepage&q=deikws%20ddu&f=false

also in this book - The History of the Princes, the Lords Marcher and the Ancient Nobility of Powys Fadog and the Ancient Lords of Arwystli and Cedewinand Meirionydd by Jacob Youde William Lloyd on page 369 shows the family pedigree on Diecws including his brother Ednyved plus 3 other brothers and 13 sisters!!!!!!!!

https://books.google.ca/books?id=KD0LAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA369&lpg=PA369&dq=llwyd+ap+y+penwyn+of+bettws&source=bl&ots=U04QJmoXPs&sig=TcbFKI0EdIpjSdvXJH02WC5cT70&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjpx4mEzLXYAhVP1WMKHa9iBwYQ6AEIMTAC#v=onepage&q=llwyd%20ap%20y%20penwyn%20of%20bettws&f=false

an interesting read of all the stuff going on back then - see this link below: https://eprints.soton.ac.uk/169897/1/AJChapman_ethesis.pdf

also read about the history of Owain G - https://britishheritage.com/owain-glyndwrs-fight-for-wales/

So is Morgan Dee an Anglicized name? what would it be in Welsh? Owen Tudur is Owain ap Maredudd ap Tudur in Welsh. Owen Glyndwr is anglicised as Owen Glendower.

Who was Morgan Dee's father? A casualty of the various conflicts of the time? Were they Welsh supporters or Anglo-welsh supporters of the English? Another interesting read is the stuff that happened during the "Lords Appellant" rebellion of 1397/1398.

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Nicholas Day (Dee)'s Timeline

1430
1430
Pembrokeshire, Wales, United Kingdom
1477
1477
Age 47
Monmouthshire, Wales, United Kingdom
1505
1505
Age 75
Monmouthshire, Wales, United Kingdom