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Percy Edward Ogle Carr

Birthdate:
Birthplace: The Knoll, Eliot Hill, Blackheath, London, SE13 7EB, England (United Kingdom)
Death: April 14, 1916 (52)
Saltillo, Coahuila, Mexico (Typhus fever)
Immediate Family:

Son of Mark William Carr, MICE, FSA and Mary Carr
Husband of Margaret Augusta Carr
Father of Beatrice Phillips (Carr) "Trixie" and Sheila Gladys Paterson
Brother of Mark William Carr "Willie"; Francis Bennoch Carr; John Thomas Carr "Jack"; Robert Carr (died in infancy); Thomas William Carr and 5 others

Occupation: Mining Engineer
Managed by: Hamish Macleod Thomson
Last Updated:

About Percy Edward Ogle Carr

From FreeBMD - Registration of birth of Percy Edward Ogle Carr in 1863

October to December 1863: Registration of birth of Percy Edward Ogle Carr; in Lewisham (Volume 1d, Page 759)

From British Newspaper Archive: Kentish Independent Saturday, 31 October 1863 Page 8 Births

Births: On Thursday, 22 October 1863 [inst.], at the [The Knoll, Eliot Hill, Blackheath, London SE13 7EB 51.46778, -0.00826], Mrs. Mark William Carr, of a son.

From MyHeritage: Mark W Carr: 1881 England & Wales Census

3 April 1881 Census for residents of [4 Woburn Place, Bloomsbury, London WC1H 0LS 51.5236888, -0.1264152], St George Bloomsbury, London, England

  • Mark W Carr, head, married, male, aged 58 [born about 1823], in North Shields; Civil Engineer
  • Mary Carr, wife, married, female, aged 59 [born about 1822], in Bretton, Yorkshire
  • Percy E O Carr, son, single, male, aged 17 [born about 1864], in Blackheath, Kent; Commercial Clerk [Cl] Gas
  • 3 siblings, 2 servants

From British Newspaper Archive: Hastings and St Leonards Observer Saturday, 21 May 1881 Page 2 Cambridge Local Examinations

The following is a list of the order of merit in these Local Examinations of those local candidates who gained the mark of distinction in the Senior Section, and also those belonging to this district in the Junior Section, showing the number of students who gained distinction. The figures indicate the position which the candidate is bracketed:

Drawing (14 distinguished). — 5. T. H. B. Bainbridge, Eastbourne. 11. P. E. O. Carr, Western College, 97 Montpelier Road, Brighton, East Sussex BN1 3BE 50.8254993, -0.1521999

From Newspapers: The Leeds Mercury Friday, 3 July 1885 Page 8 Science and Art Department

Science and Art Department. — The following prizes, scholarships, associateships, etc., have been awarded in connection with the Normal School of Science and Royal School of Mines at South Kensington: —

Associateships, Royal School of Mines. — Percy E. O. Carr (metallurgy 1st class).

From Sunday Times (Sydney, New South Wales) Sunday, 4 June 1905 Page 3 Staying at the Australia.

Among the guests staying at the Australia Hotel, Castlereagh Street, Sydney, New South Wales, NSW 2000, Australia -33.86806, 151.20972 during the week were: —... Mr. Percy E. O. Carr (Melbourne)

From MyHeritage: Percy Carr: Ellis Island and Other New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957

From British Newspaper Archive: Western Daily Mercury Tuesday, 7 May 1912 Page 3 Ocean Steamers at Plymouth

The Kaiser Wilhelm II., Captain O. Cueppers, of the North German Lloyd Line, arrived at Plymouth at 8.23 p.m. yesterday Monday, 6 May 1912, from New York, which left at noon on Tuesday, 30 April 1912 [ult]. Rough and choppy seas prevailed throughout the voyage, which occupied 6 days 2 hours 35 minutes, the average speed being 21.92 knots....

The liner brought 117 passengers, 1,946 bags of mails, and specie value 649,549 dollars for Plymouth; 237passengers and 695 bags of mails for Cherbourg, 1,006 passengers and 390 bags of mails for Bremen. Among the passengers were ... Mr. G. Marconi,... Mr. and Mrs. P. E. O. Carr, ...

From Mining magazine Volume 6 Published 1909 Page 416

June 1912: Percy E. O. Carr, manager for the Mazapil Mining Company is home from Mexico

From MyHeritage: Percy Ed. O. Carr: Ellis Island and Other New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957

  • name: Percy Ed. O. Carr
  • gender: Male
  • arrival: Friday, 23 August 1912 at New York, United States
  • departure: Liverpool
  • ship: Lusitania
  • age: 48 [born: Circa 1864]
  • last permanent residence: Saltillo, Mexico
  • nationality: England
  • marital status: Married
  • line: 27
  • notes: In transit to Mexico

From Mining magazine Volume 6 Published 1909 Page 416

September 1912: Percy E. O. Carr, general manager for the Mazapil Copper Co., has returned to the mine.

From Newspapers: Arizona Daily Star Tuesday, 25 April 1916 Page 1 Typhus kills Englishman

No news of any disturbance in Mexico of any kind has reached the border for several days, a condition which has stirred the "rumoristas" to renewed efforts. Reports, however, of the ravages of typhus, especially in the central states, and of the growing scarcity or food, in almost every section of the country come here in increasing volume.

A letter received today from Saltillo announced the death from typhus of Percy E. O. Carr, general manager of the Mazapil Copper Company, and the Coahuila and Zacatecas railroad. Mr. Carr was an Englishman and controlled some of the largest mining interests in Mexico. He is supposed to have contracted the disease while in a train on his way to Mexico City to visit his family.

From Royal School of Mines obituary

From PDF Impact of the Mexican Revolution on foreign investment in Chihuahua and Coahuila by Donald Charles Hatcher Page 53

The Mazapil Copper Company in Saltillo fell victim to a demand by the rebels to contribute 50,000 pesos, even though the Federales still controlled Saltillo. The request had been telegraphed from Concepción del Oro by the rebel chief Eulalio Gutiérrez, who said that the money would be used to buy necessities for "the Army for the Restoration of the Constitution." The general manager of the company, P.E.O. Carr. notified Gutiérrez that he did not have the authority to use 50,000 pesos out of the company's fund because if he did take the money, he would be held personally responsible, Gutiérrez then reduced his demand to 25,000 pesos, but said he would blow up the company's plant at Concepción del Oro if he did not receive the money. Carr sent the money and did not tell the Federales of the threat because he feared Federales might stop delivery of the money, forcing the rebels to destroy the plant in retaliation.

Unfortunately for the company, the Federales later found out about the transaction. They then cut the telegraph wires between Saltillo and Concepción del Oro and destroyed a number of sections of track of the company's railroad believed to be utilized by the rebels. The destruction of the track cut off the escape route for many of the company's employees at Concepción del Oro, forcing them to endure rebel depredations."

In August 1913, the mining town of Lampacitos, Coahuila, suffered complete annihilation by the Constitutionalists who destroyed over $1,000,000 worth of property, mostly French owned, in their attempt to eradicate foreigners. The Mazapil Copper Company lost over $1,000,000 when the rebels burned the office buildings and smelter at their plant in Concepción del Oro, the same plant that P.E.O. Carr had earlier paid 25,000 pesos to protect.

From MyHeritage: Probate index 1916

1 August 1916 probate of Percy Edward Ogle Carr of Saltillo, Mexico, who died 14 April 1916, probate granted at London on 1 August 1916 to Richard Eshott Carr, company director. Effects £4066 15s. 4d. Resworn £4052 16s. 6d.

From The Beverley Times (Western Australia) Friday, 24 October 1969 Page 10 Historical notebook for Perth library.

A mining engineer's note book which throws an interesting light on mining operations at the beginning of the century is to have a permanent resting place in the J S Battye Library, Alexander Library Building, 25 Francis St, Perth, Western Australia, WA 6000, Australia -31.94889, 115.86056.

It belonged to the late Percy E. O. Carr, who came to Australia about 1903 and for three years reported extensively on mines in Victoria, Western Australia, New South Wales, and Tasmania. It finds its way to Perth by way of Mexico and the International Division of the Bank of New South Wales.

Percy Carr was the son of the first general manager of Rio Tinto in Andalusia, Spain. He and his brother, Richard, took up mining. Richard joined the Bede Company in Newcastle-on-Tyne, and it is believed that it was through him that G. Delprat joined the company.

Delprat, who had met Richard Carr when he was working with Rio Tinto copper mines in Spain, came to Australia in 1898 and became the now famous general manager of Broken Hill Pty Limited. It was on his initiative that B.H.P. went into the production of iron and steel. BHP (Broken Hill Proprietary Company)

Percy and Richard Carr married two sisters whom they met in Spain — and Percy Carr's daughter Beatrice Carr married Mr. C. H. E. Phillips, at present in business in Mexico. Mrs Phillips came into possession of her father's three notebooks dealing with his Australian investigations. Mr N. P. Wright, an Englishman living in Mexico, who among other activities, is the representative of Dalgety & New Zealand Loan Limited, heard about the notebooks and told his friend, Mr E. Carthew the chief manager of the International Division of the Bank of New South Wales of them.

This resulted in Mrs Phillips agreeing to make them available to the Bank for disposal as it thought fit, and the notebook dealing with Western Australia is now coming to the Battye Library. This notebook contains observations of mines at Cue, Southern Cross, Nannine, Meekatharra, and also at 2 places named Burnakuna and Bardoc, which, with the passing of time have vanished from the map.

The second book deals with the Broken Hill area Broken Hill mine, 130 Eyre Street, Broken Hill, New South Wales, NSW 2880, Australia -31.9770772, 141.4578239 and the third with 7 Tasmanian mines. The Bank has presented these two to the appropriate authorities in N.S.W. and Tasmania.

Pictured below is Mrs Phillips handing over the notebook to Mr E. Carthew, the chief manager of the International Division of the Bank of N.S.W

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Percy Edward Ogle Carr's Timeline

1863
October 22, 1863
The Knoll, Eliot Hill, Blackheath, London, SE13 7EB, England (United Kingdom)
1900
1900
Córdoba, Córdoba, Andalucía, Spain
1905
September 3, 1905
Perth, Western Australia, Australia
1916
April 14, 1916
Age 52
Saltillo, Coahuila, Mexico